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Should OU drop Nike?

What size of house did $23,000 buy in 1970? What size of house does $220,000 buy today? And where were/are these houses located?

It's hard to use housing prices to do much apple to apple comparing since those depend so much on location today. $220,000 will buy you a really nice house in Oklahoma. $220,000 will probably not even get you indoor plumbing in San Francisco.

But I do agree with your post about wages.

Data is over the entire US and are median prices. I would agree that averages would skew the data in favor of one to the other. I always prefer medians over averages. Also, the enormity of the data (the entire US) should balance it well and avoid data skewing.

I don't know, but I would argue that the growth of urban environments vs rural would suggest that the median home today is smaller than the median home in 1970. I agree that the average suburban separated home size grew as people added game rooms, spare rooms, and second living rooms. However, I'd bet the percent of homes being condos and townhouses has grown even more so.

Trust me, I know that there are extremes in the US. Here in the San Fernando Valley, you cannot purchase ANY stand-alone house under $600k unless it's a former crack house without a roof, feces on the walls, and not a single working utility or fixture. $600k will get you a livable 2 bed / 1 bath 900sqft house with a handful of homeless squatters living in 1970s RVs on your curb and tents on the corner. Raising a child here without witnessing Chester the Molester digging through your trash, exposing himself, and fondling it in front of your kid is not a reality.

Think about that. Can a median household income of $56,000 afford the mortgage and taxes on a $600k house?
$56k minus about 35% in taxes / 12 = $3000/month
If they could miraculously come up with 20% down ($120k!), then a 4% mortgage would be $2200/month. Toss another ~$1000 in property taxes a month. $3200. They haven't even eaten or purchased toilet paper to wipe their ass yet.
 
Like I said, attack the messenger because you can't attack the message. Use any excuse you want, but reality is what reality is.

Kinda like you're doing me right now?

There have been some pretty decent posts in here unfortunately none have been made by you. ( To be clear. This time I'm attacking the messager)
 
Kinda like you're doing me right now?

There have been some pretty decent posts in here unfortunately none have been made by you. ( To be clear. This time I'm attacking the messager)
Lol. You're the one that posted...

He got as much credibility as Diamond and Silk...

Me challenging you is not attacking the messenger. It's attacking your message (and the messenger subsequently trying to hide from his own message).

If you're going to offer a blanket dismissal of someone just because they don't tow your line, be prepared to defend it. Not a difficult concept.
 
You forgot misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, and every other *.ist and *.phobic that gets tossed out if you don't tow the party line. I'd hate for you to get an additional label for being less than totally inclusive.

I have a lesbian niece whom I love as much as the married ones. I refuse to ride with her in a gay rights parade. At older daughter's steakhouse, spouse and I demand to be served by Bruce who is gay when he's on duty. I believe strictly in the traditional definition of marriage.

It had slipped my mind these characteristics make me a 100 percent, Grade A, 24 carat, gold plated homophobe.
 
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