Does TBOW leaving for USC go down as the biggest lose lose situation in sports history? Both parties are in a miserable state.

I posted this on another site. Thought I would share here.

Long-time subscriber and athletic donor for multiple programs including football.

1. Joe C is not going to fire BV. You don't add fuel to a crisis fire. BV has faults and has made mistakes, but he inherited a program in serious decline. A decline that will take five years to turn around. There was a reason Lincoln did not want to go to the SEC and why he jumped to USC. Defensive recruiting was in shambles. Lincoln hit on Caleb, but missed on backup QBs. And he then poached Caleb. He single-handily added three years to the rebuild with his actions.

2. Donors love BV's culture and the quality of recruits. He got lucky getting DG on campus or it would have been horrible.

3. Serious mistakes were made with NIL. When NIL landed, you had all these people around the program try to cash in on the program by launching a website and calling it a collective. There was a lot of politics and donors did not know where to donate. The messaging was scattered. As a result, OU missed on a golden opportunity to buy itself into a powerhouse while Texas, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee were pouring money on their offensive and defensive lines.

4. There was also people in the program that was not sold on spending for NIL. When Caleb's handlers wanted more money, they said no. But now that is over.

5. NIL is now fixed and money will be raised to do a "Mississippi" on the offense.

6. Do not be shocked if we see more offensive transfers including quarterbacks.

If you know you know.

Cut the head of the giraff off and let’s start with a clean staff. This is embarrassing. There’s no excuses anymore. You’re either going to be competitive or you’re not.

Idc about player performance. COACHES ANSWER FOR THAT. THEY GET PAID MILLIONS TO DO SO. BYE BV. BYE BB. BYE SL. BYE JJF. BYE DM.

Anyone who has an excuse left in the book can shove it. I’m done.

T R A S H

Just heard Cale Gundy say MH had poor footwork. Sounds like coaching !
Do we really want to put a 5 star on waivers after 4 games under less than ideal circumstances. Hawkins has great potential. But he is woefully inexperienced. Why not redshirt him and I hope we obtain a new offensive staff to include superb QB development. So give JA the long chance this year to see if he has it or not. This team isn’t going anywhere. If JA isn’t it then MH obtained some valuable experience and will be a freshman next year.
To build the program around JA and then jettison him after early poor play seems precipitous.

I do not predict this happens but it seems reasonable under the circumstances.

I thought he was an elite recruiter , 88 is best wr we have ?

Nepotism , dead wood, overpaid old hacks , football is failing with the longest drought in national championships in OU history , basketball failing for 5 years now , no athletes in the Olympics , Gasso was hired before Joe C , gameday atmosphere needs work . Lazy internal hires of fired ex Sooners .
What does this AD that is good ? Joe C and his dead wood has to go .
Look at Alabama AD not skipping a beat inspire all the saban transition . LSU , Texas , Tennessee, and others excelling in football more sports .

This is beyond maddening! For the battle series and fall softball games, do I have to have SEC channel to watch them? Is there any purpose to ESPN+ anymore? Are we going to have to have both?

There has been zero communication about this!

You look at the players during the Bob Stoops era that were recruited and how they played, it would seem that his methodology/teams were lot more prepared and built with what an SEC team should look like. And yes, I know, NIL has changed the game, but it looks like we might be years away from being ready based on what I saw today.

don’t care about injuries, 6 different combinations or talent

They are not even assignment sound. Letting guys run through untouched to go block air, they literally haven’t a clue who to block 7 games in.

Even if you have limited talent if you know where to go you are at least a speed bump to slow someone down.

I don’t understand how BB can’t even get them to know the blocking assignments.

Time to go young and play for next year, not a OL getting meaningful minutes that has any shot of being a starter next year.

Why in the world are we running everything down the middle of the field still? I'm seeing so many teams today running their Qbs out of the pocket to make plays. At this point, with the state of the line, you have to stop with the same down-the-middle QB/RB run. Try something different!

I’ve been watching OU football since the early 60’s and I have never seen a less talented group of offensive lineman. Baker would have a hard time winning behind it. All on BB!
Our tight ends are also the worst I’ve seen on an OU team. All on JJ!!
Our running backs are the worst stable of RBs I’ve seen at OU. All on DM!!
Our starting WRs are injured, I get that, but I’m watching freshman WRs on teams that are playing great. Ours cannot get separation period!
Can’t fully blame EJ but he does bare some responsibility.
Our OC is clueless and should have never been offered the job period. One of the most storied teams in college football can’t go out and find the “best” OC and offer them a job.
And that brings me to BV who was offered the job without interviewing one other person, including Dan Lanning. There is a reason BV was never interviewed for an head coaching job while he was at Clemson. All on Bob and Joe C. “Comfort” hire!
So we as fans, get to suffer through this poor decision making for who knows how long.
I have only one complaint about defense, Billy B is still starting at safety!

Trying to put the emotion and embarrassment of today aside: does this team go over or under 5.5 wins for 2024?

Maine is a guarantee. Outside of that…SC next week. If SC is a loss, do the wheels completely fall off?

BV has talked ad nauseam about culture. That culture is going to be put to the test very quickly….

I have defended BB a ton, from his track record and the development of players we've seen in the past. But I think it's clear today, JA and MH can and will be good QBs, but they won't get that chance behind a line like ours. Someone explain this to me. Is our line awful because youth/inexperence/injuries... or is it the coaching. I know a decent amount about the game but I'm not savvy enough to know the X's and O's. I just don't understand how our line is this fvcking soft.

OU has to throw the bank at Stein and bring the whole offensive staff ….OL, WR .
Obviously we can’t outbid Nike , but maybe he’s tired of Lanning .

Who do we turn to for 2025 ? Seems we will need to hire an OC who brings with him a star QB. just like Lebby did and just what Lincoln did for USC.

I just do not see an OU win here. I will go -

South Carolina. 17-6.

As everyone seems to say I hope I am wrong.

Bring Bob Back! Enough Said!

Every place I've looked, it says it on the SEC Network at 11:45 Saturday, I actually have two different listings on my new Spectrum TV stuff. But both on Saturday just list about four or five consecutive hours of of SEC Now during that time frame, in one hour segments. Nothing about OU-USC. Is it somewhere else? I have a class reunion from 11 ti 2:30 on Saturday and want to tape it. But I can't find it anywhere to tape.

I commend his selflessness in agreeing to blow his redshirt to go into this $%&^ show of a game. I have never and will never question his character.

This must a source in the Switzer Center

i've had a few glasses of wine now, so i'm off the fire BV band wagon.
that's just too damaging.
we'd loose all our recruits and our defensive staff is strong.

get rid of all the offense coaches outside of wide reciever coach (i'm drunk so i can't think of his name)
go get a big time and flashy offensive OC somewhere and open the bank for him.

retain JA and MH, try to hold on to the 5start OL guy and give BV one more season.

If he can keep this defense engaged for the remainder of the season and make the necessary coaching changes on offense, i still think he can right the ship. But the hard decisions need to be made.

Littrell and Finley must go. Bedenbaugh has to retain Fausi and Foje. Demarco i really don't know. Emmitt is good.

Remember 3 years ago when Texas offered online recruits 250k per and OU was sleeping? They were early on that and it shows now.