...a new era has started. Congrats on the win
Rattler is done
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That may be the case. I hope he recovers and goes on to do great things. This year's offense just seemed limited with him. Unsure if it was just the O-Line or if there were other things. It seems he regressed from his late season form last year. I hate it for him and the team but Caleb looks to play the part. We shall see.
No, it didn't. Rattler came out for a few series last year but he returned to the game. This year was different.
I found this pretty interesting. Evidently he isnt exactly liked by his teammates.
Caleb jacked up the whole team today. Both sides of the ball. Caleb steers this ship from here on out.
BOOMER SOONER! 😁
Did Spencer attend the team picture after the game ? I heard he was outta there pretty quickly
I don't see how you can go back to Rattler as the starter. I don't hate the kid or anything, I just think Riley is going to go with Williams because he thinks he's the better option.
I think Rattler probably hits the portal at the end of they year.
I think Rattler probably hits the portal at the end of they year.
If true it may be why his O Line has been playing poorly for him, they don't like him. Just a thought.
I agree that he is likely done as the starter. He has struggled all year except Western Carolina and KSU. CW came in to OU's biggest rivalry game down 3 touchdowns and pulled a Cool Hand Luke and led OU to an unlikely comeback win.
Do team pictures pay?
We don’t want him gone until after the season is completed obviously
I'm just wondering if Riley gets him snaps every game for that reason. I hope to heck Riley doesn't try a 2 qb rotation or some crap. I was totally surprised Riley brought Rattler in for the 2 pt. conversion. I'm not sure exactly what to make of that
One of 2 possibilities.
1. Wanted to make up for hurt feelers.
2. Rattler has run that play in practice hundreds of times and was the best option to run that particular play.
Good grief I just went and watched Riley's post game and to be honest he seemed to be playing down the significance of Williams coming in and changing the course of the game. He made it a point to say that the 66 yard touchdown that Williams ran didn't have anything to do with his decision to keep Williams in the game, etc.. In my opinion Riley is a little bit like Stoops and that he can't fathom admitting that other people or even the folks in the press may be right about something. He kind of tried to play the victim to the press and He said we'll play better as we go one with both of them, whatever that means. Looked like he'd been crying or was holding back tears at the start of the interview, nothing new. When pressed and asked if Williams success had anything to do with the defense getting a spark and playing better, without hesitating Riley said no. He was trying to shut that down. Apparently Riley was watching a different game then I was..
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I saw it too. My only thought is he didn't want to throw Rattler under the bus. But then you want to show this to Riley as he is talking. Give Caleb some props Riley!
Wow! What a difference. I about started laughing and then crying when he said he considered bringing Rattler back in for the final dive? I am convinced Riley is brain damaged from being at Tech and thinking that a win isn't truly a win unless you are scraping by at the end and escaping. Great win but I think he's butthurt that he's having to make a change that he knows needs to be made and the fans know is the right one too.I saw it too. My only thought is he didn't want to throw Rattler under the bus. But then you want to show this to Riley as he is talking. Give Caleb some props Riley!
For whatever reason Rattler's head was not in this game and Riley just about waited too long to make the switch at QB possibly because we heard Rattler and pretty much Riley said it too that they don't listen to what fans say when Rattler was booed and the fans chanted "We want Caleb" during the WV game. I think Riley didn't want Rattler to feel like he had turned on him too. But damn the team as a whole is more important than one players feelers. I really do believe that Riley would have taken a loss vs WV before he would have benched Rattler.
Something is going on with Rattler and we will likely never know but he just seems to be going through the motions. When Caleb came in the whole team looked and played different. There is a reason behind it but what? It wouldn't be the first time a squad favored one player to lead them over another. Maybe they have known that Caleb is the best QB on the team but Riley felt he owed Rattler something. Hell I don't know.
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Williams looked better in the Fall scrimmage. I've supported Rattler but Williams gives the best chance to win at this point.
Riley should have had Williams in at least, two drives earlier. When he finally came in, we all were relieved, but thought too much damage had been done. That was a deep hole to climb out of, but Williams and HIS offense, and the defense, pulled it off. Riley's team saved Riley. Had the Sooners lost by a FG, Riley would have had his butt cooking on the rotisserie for the rest of the season. What a stunning performance.
Here is my favorite tweet of the day, from pregame...
Rattler still has an important role this season and what we should be happy about, aside from Caleb Williams' epic performance vs Texas, is the QB depth.
His flaws aside, how many teams would like a second string QB like Rattler ?
And who's to say yesterday's game won't inspire Rattler to play better ?
Caleb Williams is clearly the future at QB for OU, but I think Rattler's benching yesterday could be a positive thing.....as Rattler plays his final year at OU.
His flaws aside, how many teams would like a second string QB like Rattler ?
And who's to say yesterday's game won't inspire Rattler to play better ?
Caleb Williams is clearly the future at QB for OU, but I think Rattler's benching yesterday could be a positive thing.....as Rattler plays his final year at OU.
That's really interesting, thanks for posting.
Riley could be giving us a bunch of coach speak, and he might might be trying to protect Rattler a little bit.
I actually feel kind of bad for Spencer, because it's not his fault that the hype machine got so out of control. The expectations for him for this season were completely unreasonable. I think he was set up to fail.
Also, he has to be feeling like he's lost millions and millions of dollars based on how far his draft stock as fallen since the beginning of the season. All of this for a 20-year-old kid.
He's got the talent, and if he puts in the work, he can play on Sundays. I hope he finds a way to make it happen.
There are over positive and over negative ways of handling situations such as this. You have people directly involved with the pluses and minuses of the events. You manage a team. The best way to keep the team in good order is to publicly stay right down the middle and then address each individual separately. Why would he throw his opinions out at this point? Project Management: Human Relations 101.
If the reports are true, Rattler is a cancer. It sounds like he is a Terrell Owens type. I hear you on the need for depth. Especially with a running QB like Williams. Just saying Rattler could cause more problems than he is worth.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rattler trot out the first offensive series. Riley is unpredictable sometimes. He obviously wasn’t comfortable discussing the move after the game. Hopefully he can come to terms with the right decision. I understand it’s a tough call but TCU needs to play against our best.
Not sure ehat he needs to evaluate but he is the coach……
I know one thing....if Rattler trots out there for the first series the whole stadium will be booing.
I doubt they boo if that happens but the first time a drive stalls or he turns the ball over all bets are off. The real question for me is he really going to let them actually compete ( looks to me like the Texas game already made that decision easy ) or has he already decided he was going to give Rattler another shot.
That would be unfair as Rattler played last year with a supporting cast that included Humphrey, Stevenson, Rambo, McGowan, Major, Henderson, Ealy, Pledger and now has played behind an offensive line that hasn’t come together just yet and a severely depleted RB corps.
It’s sad how some are now wanting Rattler gone and to fail in the wake of Williams’ Cinderella performance vs Texas.
Well I'm not saying I'm in favor of anyone booing, but I can't see it going any other way. People are going to go crazy if Rattler is still the starter.
So basically exactly what I thought. Rattler is still in the mix. Riley must have brass balls or thinks he has if he starts Rattler. Go for it, dude.
Offense was electric with Williams, and Rattler turns it over too much. I'm confident we'll see Williams.
I think the question is though, did Williams play over his head yesterday? Can he keep it going, or will he turn it over vs. TCU?
I think the question is though, did Williams play over his head yesterday? Can he keep it going, or will he turn it over vs. TCU?
