OU is in the Playoffs? Told You So!!!
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Heupel didn't have John Frickin Wayne as a QB.
Seriously, last year and EVERY year we have talent...we are Oklahoma. THIS year, we have:
- Depth on defense. DLine, LBs, and DBs.
- John Frickin Wayne. His skill has helped offset our BIGGEST weakness...an inexperienced OLine.
- A healthy Shephard AND a few others that can catch the dang ball!
- On field leadership. See JFW above.
Through the Tennesee game, the consensus here was to bench JFW, Coach Mike should be burned at the stake, and Coach Stoops should be encouraged to find another place of employment.
Some saw John Frickin Wayne and a team that just continued to improve every week on both sides of the ball and were pretty darn good with a LOT of potential. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
It's been a fun year....the board is fun again, we won another Championship after a 3-year drought and we're playing for an NC again. One we should win.
And when we don't win back to back next year, well....the more things change....
LOL.
No one here was asking for Mayfield to be benched during the Tennessee game, that's an outright lie. About the only frustration or at least what we felt was a weakness was the offensive line. As we can see, it has improved to atleast respectable now. Heupel did not meet Oklahomas standards on what we needed from an OC. I wish him the best, however he needed to be fired.
The consensus was to bench Mayfield during the Tenn game???? Man do you actually believe what you type? You are either highly delusional or just out right lying. Neither is a good thingHeupel didn't have John Frickin Wayne as a QB.
Seriously, last year and EVERY year we have talent...we are Oklahoma. THIS year, we have:
And if you were trying to defend Heupel and/or me...no need to. We said goodbye to our first JFW whose offenses averaged 40 pts per game and kept Coach Mike whose defenses were giving up almost that. Since I used the exact same type of facts to defend Kevin Wilson when the masses wanted his head and Heupel calling plays...well you know.
- Depth on defense. DLine, LBs, and DBs.
- John Frickin Wayne. His skill has helped offset our BIGGEST weakness...an inexperienced OLine.
- A healthy Shephard AND a few others that can catch the dang ball!
- On field leadership. See JFW above.
Through the Tennesee game, the consensus here was to bench JFW, Coach Mike should be burned at the stake, and Coach Stoops should be encouraged to find another place of employment.
Some saw John Frickin Wayne and a team that just continued to improve every week on both sides of the ball and were pretty darn good with a LOT of potential. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
It's been a fun year....the board is fun again, we won another Championship after a 3-year drought and we're playing for an NC again. One we should win.
And when we don't win back to back next year, well....the more things change....
LOL.
Revisionist history as usual Spanky. There were plenty of "I'm ready to see Trevor" posts early in the season.
One of the nice things about this new Rivals user interface might also one of the bad things for some. Old posts will never be deleted (unless the author or admin deletes or edits them). They're all there - going back to January 2015. Lots of research material available to see if things were really said or not. So if being right is really that important, start linking some old threads.
No not really. And I'm not attacking Plaino as a person, simply debunking his thinking that it's all about players making plays or not. It's absurd. The average fan in the stands with a lick of common sense could see changes needed to be made the last few seasons. Bob made them, and look at the difference in the product on the field. Sorry, but the evidence in the outcomes after coaching changes in the OU staff is absolutely definitive that Plaino's stance on this over the last few years was dead wrong.
And ya know ST, it's easy for you to accuse me of attacking, when in actuality it's Plaino that enjoys telling posters that can apply blame to coaches (as well as players) are stupid, idiots, or just don't have a clue what they are talking about. Sorry, but since the results on the field point towards him being wrong, doesn't that mean the adjectives he loves to label others with...maybe they now apply to him???
Well, I can't remember if it was the Tennessee game or not, but I do remember some outcries in game threads about putting in Trevor to see if he could do better. There were even some of the old "I miss Landry" comments as well. So the Baker love OU fans have now, wasn't always there at the start of the season.
I should go back and see what I posted and how I felt back in January right after the bowl game. People can evolve and change opinions and thinking about things as events unfold. So wondering if I were to read now what I posted in January, if I would call myself a moron or not. lol
The sense of the common man today is to have no sense at all. Having any sense is no longer a common thing. What is common in regards to sense is to have none. One who possesses any sense, is not common.
OK, PtLavaca...Who are YOU? Deliberate, or Clueless?
I'm deliberately clueless I'm told...
Senior, you don't have a clue how to wager. You should have made it for a hundred bucks at a minimum given the better than average odds someone will do one or the other.
Right on, as usual, Okla...Sad, but True...
However, I DO know how to wager, and I'll give you a Winning Tip...When I go to 'The Track', I always bet the One Horse in the First Race...That Horse always wears Red & White Silks, and, more often than not, wins, so next time you go, do as I do...
At the Crap Table, I'm a Good Doubles Shooter, so, I Double on the Hard Numbers...Are you starting to get the picture?
I may even write a book about my Wagering...I'll call it 'Senior's System'...
I do well enough to always get comped, wherever I play. It's strange, though...It's always for one of their 'Sister Hotels'. I don't know if they are being nice to me, or just want me to go away...
Who really cares?
OU won the Big 12 championship and is going to the playoffs!
This should be a fun month for all Sooner fans!!!!
OU won the Big 12 championship and is going to the playoffs!
This should be a fun month for all Sooner fans!!!!
Well yeah! Was the same for Riley too. But I gotta tell ya, I like what Riley has done with the OLine coach on mixing up blocking assignments on the exact same plays, to fool the defense. THAT is advanced stuff...as long as the players execute it.
That's NOT what he's saying, you're just not listening. He's SAYING too many put too much blame on the coaches unfairly. Which I believe is very common...and accurate. Just like you though I was a Coach Heupel pumper simply because I pointed out how ludicrous it was for OUr fans to want him fired for leading offenses that averaged 40 points a game when OUr DEFENSE was the obvious bigger issue. I did and said the same when fans wanted to fire Wilson after he led one of the most prolific offenses in NCAA history!!! You and a few others seem to want to believe something else...that's fine with me. Rationalize away.
John Frickin Wayne is the BIGGEST difference in this offense. He's helped hide our biggest weakness....an inexperienced OLine. On defense, we now have depth at many positions. The result is, we're playing for an NC. Hard headed stubborness is contagious.
I know there will be complaining on the board following losses. Criticizing players on winning teams is sad when its your team. You could at least wait till something derails the season. We had one poster at least who was certain the Texas loss wouldn't be overlooked by the committee. He was wrong of course no surprize.
You people that still fill the need to disrespect certain players is absurd.
I don't what would would make you happy if this season didn't do it?
Conference championships are big and a must have for the big 12 chances in playoffs.
A few will be bitching about something
If we win the National Championship.
I'm going to Home Depot with my Sooner hat on. There will be some Baker fans there. His high school is about a mile away. I'll be the guy with a big smile.
The negative ones can continue to discuss who is a valued team member and dwell on their teams shortcomings.
How come the boys don't post on OB anymore. I figured they're to thin skinned to go back since we lost to the horns. They would prefer to bring negativity to this board. I wish Yankee and barking would pester them again, I enjoyed that. Billy didn't say much to piss them off. They save the goodies for here.
You people that still fill the need to disrespect certain players is absurd.
I don't what would would make you happy if this season didn't do it?
Conference championships are big and a must have for the big 12 chances in playoffs.
A few will be bitching about something
If we win the National Championship.
I'm going to Home Depot with my Sooner hat on. There will be some Baker fans there. His high school is about a mile away. I'll be the guy with a big smile.
The negative ones can continue to discuss who is a valued team member and dwell on their teams shortcomings.
How come the boys don't post on OB anymore. I figured they're to thin skinned to go back since we lost to the horns. They would prefer to bring negativity to this board. I wish Yankee and barking would pester them again, I enjoyed that. Billy didn't say much to piss them off. They save the goodies for here.
Biggest difference in our defense too, IMO. Credit to having a CB that can complement Zack too, Jordan Thomas, and moving Striker back to a blitzing linebacker, but Mayfield seems to have been better for our defense than anything. It was all too apparent in the TCU game. Sorry for being un-PC, but our defense looked retarded in the second half against TCU. Riley took the blame for being conservative, but he would have been conservative if Mayfield was in the game too, but I bet the results would have been far different. I mean, the very next week after taking blame for being conservative, Riley went back to being conservative in the second half against OkSt. The results were far different as we outscored OkSt 14-3 in the second half. That was in no small part due to Mayfield.
Mayfield in the second half against OkSt was 4/7 and ran for 44 yards.
ST, I was never on the Fire Heupel train either. Sounds like we both felt about the same in regards to the coordinators last year. I wasn't looking for any coordinator to get fired, but I damn sure felt at the time if one of the them was going to go and I had to pick I would have chosen Mike. Not to say I was for certain he needed to be fired, but the defense last year was by far a bigger problem. But thankfully that decision was left to Bob, and from how this season turned out I think I can safely say i was wrong about which coordinator should go.
But we can agree to disagree agree about Plainos stance on coach vs player blame and fault during awful performances. He consistently states "it's not the coaches, players either make plays or they dont". That is a pretty clear cut statement. I don't think coaches are to blame or are at fault every single time. But they do shoulder blame at time. Same goes with players. Plaino confers with his words that it's all on the players, and putting blame on coaches is idiotic and stupid. Now if Plaino does in fact think fault for losses does also fall on coaches, then I have clearly missed his intent to imply that in his posts. But up till now, I haven't seen it implied.
But we can agree to disagree agree about Plainos stance on coach vs player blame and fault during awful performances. He consistently states "it's not the coaches, players either make plays or they dont". That is a pretty clear cut statement. I don't think coaches are to blame or are at fault every single time. But they do shoulder blame at time. Same goes with players. Plaino confers with his words that it's all on the players, and putting blame on coaches is idiotic and stupid. Now if Plaino does in fact think fault for losses does also fall on coaches, then I have clearly missed his intent to imply that in his posts. But up till now, I haven't seen it implied.
Maybe it's your wordsmithing that causes a lot of consternation with others. You golf-clap when the team does well, and you cry from the heavens when someone makes a mistake.
In the game thread, you made 8 negative posts and only 4 positive posts, another post was a back-handed compliment. You never write with any neutrality or simple observation. There always has to be hyperbole and abject language involved.
You have trouble just making your opinion and then moving on like 97% of the posters do. You have to dig in your heels and refute every challenge. If you're not a lawyer, you missed your calling in life. A good fallback for you might be a Xanax prescription.
Soonersincefitty
Sooner starter
'And the truth shall set you free'...not to mention not one of his critics will even acknowledge Sanchez had a badly hobbled ankle in Bedlam. Oh no, that would totally destroy their two year old narrative that Zack is a marginal, if not just a flat out bad player.
These three guys are the epitome of 'one bad apple spoils the bunch'.
Pretty pathetic really.
Now, cue the drunk posting, old man rants.
Punks...
Jcon perhaps if just once the Sanchez guys would say when he makes a bad play or atleast acknowledge it all this would go away. If you choose or want to go back in the game day threads over the past few weeks you will see I praise Sanchez when he does well, and I mention struggles and things he needs to work on or bad plays. It goes both ways. Your crew has no issue rubbing it in with snide remarks when he makes a good play but disappear when he makes terrible plays.
As for fitty, for the love of God think before you post. From your cussing rants, to wishing death on posters to being completely wrong on the Henry issue just the other day. Its awfully hard to respect anything you post. You are the Lee corso of the board and here for entertainment. I will admit though you do make me laugh
As for fitty, for the love of God think before you post. From your cussing rants, to wishing death on posters to being completely wrong on the Henry issue just the other day. Its awfully hard to respect anything you post. You are the Lee corso of the board and here for entertainment. I will admit though you do make me laugh
For the record, I have no crew. Plaino is the only Scoop poster I've met in person, and I've argued with everyone here from the bottom up. In fact, there are plenty of dissenting opinions and "arguments" that happen on this board, but for some reason, you end up in the middle of most. I'm sure you've heard the saying that if you think one person is an asshole, they probably are. If you think everyone is an asshole, you probably are.
Then where were you last year and why aren't YOU bitchslapping these goobers!!!
And I'm telling you, Plaino and I share the same opinion. It IS the coaches job to take NONE of the credit and ALL of the blame. Many have come to understand this the past year. A few with too much pride and a LOT of time to consistently demonstrate how little they know...are still making "noise".
I left the board for 6 months last year. OU was 4-0 when I stopped posting. It wasn't a matter of Sooner losses. It wasn't a matter of pride. It wasn't a matter of being hurt. I simply needed time away. And it was a blissful 8-4 football season. I never looked at the board a single time.
I had dinner with SoonerTulsan before his time away, and I'm pretty certain that is why he took some time off too. But when I returned, WNAS made the same accusation of me that you are making of ST. It isn't right Yankee.
22 each situation is different. You came back as a poster who is now very non confrontational, respectful of others views and have continued your ways of being a very knowledgeable poster. He came back name calling, disrespectful (over the top) and attacking posters. I have no doubt he is a prideful man and I think it hurt him deeply when heupel was fired. Not because of losing heupel, but because he was dead wrong on that topic. That's my opinion. If I'm wrong, I apologize
Coach Riley allows the QB to make audibles and not meerkat to the sidelines, taking orders.
The offense actually gave the defense something to defend all year long.
Coach Riley has a better feel for the pass and run aspects, flow of the game, allowing the playmakers to make plays!
This offense doesn't look scripted, just look at the one page of notes Coach Riley has in his hand. He doesn't want to dictate the flow of the game. It's working so far. Nobody expects perfection, but competence is required.
The offense actually gave the defense something to defend all year long.
Coach Riley has a better feel for the pass and run aspects, flow of the game, allowing the playmakers to make plays!
This offense doesn't look scripted, just look at the one page of notes Coach Riley has in his hand. He doesn't want to dictate the flow of the game. It's working so far. Nobody expects perfection, but competence is required.
You know what's sad? That you have to defend yourself after YEARS of posting here with a pretty solid reputation. I refuse to do so when it comes to anyone with poor character and integrity. You referenced them here.
But the board IS fun again!
Yep. I agree. So instead of someone saying theis board was clamoring for Trevor and to bench Baker, I challenge them to find these posts and post them for all to see. There's no need to be lazy about and also attempt to re-write board history. If someone really believes this is correct, they'll hit the search button and post them. If they don't post them, they're just trolling again.
Read & weep. There was not one post, PERIOD, of any kind that I could see asking for Baker to be benched and replaced by Trevor. This board has been trolled again in an effort to re-gain board status and momentum from whatever ails the guy. Yes, there is/was critiquing of Baker and many players... but they lost. The good news? The new OC stood front & center and placed the blame on himself and not the players.
http://oklahoma.forums.rivals.com/threads/official-rrr-game-thread-game-5-ou-vs-texas.23384/
http://oklahoma.forums.rivals.com/threads/official-rrr-game-thread-game-5-ou-vs-texas.23384/
