I was told that NIL money is divided into years to keep these "dedicated" commits from taking the money a running after one year. Does this mean $25k a year for O-Linemen? I have no specific details concerning terms and conditions.
Taking the money and running is what most of these kids are gonna do. Most of these prima donnas didn't go to college to play school. 😉
This is spot on. When you are being compensated, there is going to be an expectation by the fans. I’m not a big fan of booing but in hindsight the fans booing Rattler/Riley pretty much ripped the scab off of a festering issue that was going on and made Riley act.
Excellent point. My overwhelming feeling of the year was that the offense was anemic. This was so confusing to me when I see in retrospect that we averaged 180 yds rushing per game, but I carry this gut feeling that our rushing attack was absent. Then I remember a lot of yards were just bail outs by CW. A truly great offense doesn't need bail outs. Mike Vick, Kyler Murray, Baker, and many others didn't excel in the NFL due to their feet. That's not what makes an offense great. It works in college and mistakenly makes a college coach look like an offensive genius. Great offenses thrive without improvisation. The necessity of that angle hangs heavy on Riley's skills as an OC in my mind.
Heard they are paying linemen $50K guaranteed. That's just the tip of this NIL iceberg. My Question is this Butch. Can Oklahoma compete financially with A&M or Tx or USC and many other team's out there?
Short answer from me is yes. There are too many good players to pay them all. Coaching is the most important factor. There are thousands and thousands of superb athletes that can make up a competitive team. Nobody can pay them all and form a monopoly on players. Right now, it's just going to take time for boosters to realize they're wasting their money on pipe dreams.
I wonder just how much the parents are pushing the kids to go for the money thinking it benifits them also.
In the past I wasn’t much for roster size limits but now that NIL is here I’m glad for it
The short answer is yes, OU can keep up with these other schools if the OU Big Money Boys united. Houston alone has a plethora of OU alum in high places. It is a matter of uniting them to the cause. It when happen, but the question is when.
Great post.
This is exactly what Quin Ewers from Southlake Carroll high school did. First, he bailed on his high school teammates and enrolled early at Ohio State. Probably cost them a state championship. Then, he was given NIL for $3M + a new $70K truck. Then, he bailed on Ohio State and transferred to Texas where I am sure he is getting another wad of cash. Without ever playing a down of CFB. Absolute craziness!
Your position is admirable but clueless to the trends of youth today. Hell, their parents are the youth of yesterday. Rather than stay out of the NIL, OU alum and donors need to jump in with both feet landing big.
I agree, unfortunately. However, we don't have to like it. I think the question for the fan base is which is worse; paying players who in turn have no true obligation vs. losing? It is quite a dilemma.
The short answer is YES. The college football landscape is evolving on many fronts before our eyes. Ignoring it and giving it less attention than it deserves at this point will only put OU farther behind the 8-ball. I fully agree with the general disdain for the complexion of the future of college football but it is what it is. Some form of control(s) will eventually make its way into this system because I think it will get wildly out of control. We must roll with the punches at this point. BTW Anyone without experience gaining access to large sums of money is dangerous. Losing the sense of value for anything is dangerous. I.E. Henry Ruggles LV Raiders.
Scottsdale, what’s your understanding with regard to NIL money being tied to an inducement for the athlete to attend a particular school. If legal, I see no problem for OU, but if not, how do OU donors contributing to an NIL feel about giving a kid money and he decides to attend Texas, for example? How do the OU donors protect their investment?
First, the process that I am seeing now is fully legal for what I know of the NIL judgments. The donors or clients in this case, must have a Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) like a registered Limited Liability Company (LLC) that investment money must pass thru. Private individuals or Good Ole Boys Club crosses the legal lines This LLC must have a have goods or services that may be marketed or advanced by the athlete/promoter thru endorsements or commercial advertising. The depth of this last statement is largely unregulated so there is no defined minimum amount of effort required by the athlete. The athletes should have agents the same as NFL, NBA, etc. Contracts will be fully negotiated with relatively rigid terms and conditions with regards to breaking the contract. Legal action to include the promoter and their agents will be strong deterrents. I assume the legal action would be to recover all or the pro-rata portion is the promoter decides to jump ship before the contract is fulfilled. I can see a fire storm of legal action in the next few years. This is where the schools/Athletic Depts will have leverage in attempting to maintain some (a small portion) of control. It's going to interesting. The innocent college athlete no longer exist.
Thank you. So you’re saying the donors can take back the NIL if the athlete switches from OU to another school to protect their investment, right. And that wouldn’t be a NCAA violation because there was no requirement for the athlete to go to OU. I appreciate your input.
What I'm saying is the donors would include terms and conditions to recover their investment money in the event of a breach of contract, i.e. transferring to another school. We can assume there would be very clear wording and signed acknowledgement by the athlete that he fully understands the terms and conditions. Since OU is not a party to the NIL I would believe the donors could stipulate that all terms and conditions apply to attending OU.
So there is a stipulation in the NIL that the athlete would have to attend OU to get the NIL benefit and that’s not a NCAA violation. Great. Thank you, Scottsdale. I appreciate the clarification. Boomer!
Keep in mind that this is based on my understanding of the NIL judgment and the many discussions I have had on the subject in the last few months. I can honestly say I saw this coming long ago.
