“There’s no reason, no fricking reason, why Ohio State should go ahead of Oklahoma, and pee on our rug. Am I right?”
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“There’s no reason, no fricking reason, why Ohio State should go ahead of Oklahoma, and pee on our rug. Am I right?”
I've heard this before... 'making the regular season mean something'. I'm not sure I understand it to be honest. How does having a playoff system make regular season games meaningless?
Damn right, Dude. There are RULES!
“Am I the only one that gives a shit about the rules?” Haha, you get it, V-Man.
Will have to wait and see how the playoff rankings look. But if it reflects today's poll then OU has nothing to worry about. OU just needs to win and they are in.
Okla-Bama game, baby. Boomer!
I believe there will be no fixing the OU defense to the level of play that it was or has been in the past. In fact, not even close. Look around. Saban has actually adopted the wide open offense. He sees the future. Some of the smartest defensive coaches and some of the best defensive players are getting beaten each week. In two to three years, there will be more and more teams adopting the wise open offenses. Until some defensive guru comes up with a plan to stop these wide open offenses, they will flourish and continue to gain acceptance.
I agree. OU suddenly needs no more help. Just win and they are in.
Good post. Another thing about The King; Think about the number of players he recruited that were offensive players in high school who ended up being great defensive players at OU. Randy Hughes, Scot Hill, David Vickers, etc...
Exactly. But like the Wishbone, someone will figure out how to slow down these wide open offenses. Just a matter of time. I wish OU could be the first. lol
I'm not sure. This type of offense was spurred in action to take advantage of the rules. Rules that were put in place to protect the QB, & the defenseless WR. They were put place to limit or change the way a defensive player can hit, attack, and/or tackle. Football is so different today than just 10 years ago. Add to this additional rules to be added for further protection of players... what we have here is an offensive game.
I had an OU AA tell me that Barry was the best at convincing players to play at their best position. He said so many kids have it in their mind the position that’s best for them and it’s not a lot of the times. Barry was very convincing even if it meant telling a little white lie now and then. lol
If OU gets back to winning National Titles I don't care if the defense gives up 900 yds a game and not a single fan from any other School would either. At Thanksgiving Dinner there was an Arkie fan there saying the Big 12 does not play defense, I laughed and said I guess being 2-10 is better than 11-1. Lmao.
After watching the potential playoff teams the past few days I say bring any one of them on, none of them are unbeatable. Line up and see what happens. Gotta get by that team from asstin first tho.
After watching the potential playoff teams the past few days I say bring any one of them on, none of them are unbeatable. Line up and see what happens. Gotta get by that team from asstin first tho.
Lmao. I use to think Arkansas would be a good, natural asset to the Big 12. I lived there a couple years and saw first hand the Arkie fan’s loyalty. But I’ve come to realize they are aren’t very football savvy and are what we in Alabama refered to as being “slow”.
We need to beat Texas and Georgia to lose. we are projected to be in the 4th spot.
We're talking EXPANDED playoffs.
Expanding the playoffs will not make the regular season meaningless. You're going to have to win games during the regular season in order to make the playoffs. With the system we have now, it still comes down to peoples opinion on who deserves to be one of the 4 teams. Make it a 16 team playoff and don't use a committee to select the teams. Select them on the merits of their season.
This here but I do think 8 is just right. 5- P5 conf winners plus 1 G5 that actually groupd ND to them and must be in top 12 to get in + 2 WC determined by a set of rules. Its time to get tid of the human element in my opinion.
It's an easy fix. Take the Power 5 champs and 3 at large. Max two teams from any one conference. That leaves room for the Notre Dames and UCFs of the world.
Yes, but unfortunately, he cannot discuss OU at all, and must leave the room when OU comes up. There's a 2nd person on the committee that also has OU ties, and has to leave the room when OU comes up. That leaves use 2 committee folks short to discuss OU, and open to 1 person with a tOSU agenda to blow holes in our resume.
Taking only 4 teams is a joke and always has been. When they announced we were going to have a playoff, I got excited, but when they announced only 4 teams, I felt it was a slap in the face to those who have been clambering for a playoff.
The playoffs should be at least 8 teams with conference winners getting an automatic bid and the other at-large teams being the highest ranked. How can anyone complain about that? How would that make the regular season meaningless when the regular season will determine your fate.
The playoffs should be at least 8 teams with conference winners getting an automatic bid and the other at-large teams being the highest ranked. How can anyone complain about that? How would that make the regular season meaningless when the regular season will determine your fate.
I think they need to be very careful with any expansion talks. Will it make the regular season meaningless? No..........but it will water it down and I really like the excitement of each game being very important. I personally think 4 is a good number to stay at. You go to 6 and #7 is going to feel screwed.
I've said for a long time that 8-team would be perfect, and there are criteria to meet (no humans to "decide" who is better).
Criteria 1: P5 conference champs, IF conference champ has no more than 3 losses and is ranked in the top 15 - otherwise conference loses their automatic bid and is replaced by an at large bid. Conferences decide their own champion (results of regular season, Conference Championship Game, etc.).
Criteria 2: Highest ranked Non-P5 team (includes ND); must be in top 15 or spot is forfeited.
Criteria 3: At large bids to fill the remaining spots but ONLY 1 at large bid per Conference (to prevent the "SEC should get all the at large bids" lobbying by ESPiN).
Would teams 7, 8, 9, and 10 all be screaming about being worthy? Of course, that will always happen no matter if you have 4, 6, 8, or 16 teams.
BUT this is better than 4 because you guarantee yourself a spot based on Conference play. I can't stand it that if all 5 P5 conferences have an undefeated champ, one gets left out in the current system. Just stupid.
Criteria 1: P5 conference champs, IF conference champ has no more than 3 losses and is ranked in the top 15 - otherwise conference loses their automatic bid and is replaced by an at large bid. Conferences decide their own champion (results of regular season, Conference Championship Game, etc.).
Criteria 2: Highest ranked Non-P5 team (includes ND); must be in top 15 or spot is forfeited.
Criteria 3: At large bids to fill the remaining spots but ONLY 1 at large bid per Conference (to prevent the "SEC should get all the at large bids" lobbying by ESPiN).
Would teams 7, 8, 9, and 10 all be screaming about being worthy? Of course, that will always happen no matter if you have 4, 6, 8, or 16 teams.
BUT this is better than 4 because you guarantee yourself a spot based on Conference play. I can't stand it that if all 5 P5 conferences have an undefeated champ, one gets left out in the current system. Just stupid.
I'm already tired of hearing that tOSU played a "complete game" vs. Michigan. tOSU gave up 39 points to a pedestrian UM offense (hardly the likes of UWV).
UM's D played which top O before tOSU? They didn't even face Ian Book at QB for ND and still lost. The Big10 was over-hyped to start the year and fell on it face from the opening weekend. So UM was able to stuff crap Big10 offenses to have the top-ranked D...UGA supposedly had a top ranked D last year as well. Some talking head on ESPN mention this already....
UM's D played which top O before tOSU? They didn't even face Ian Book at QB for ND and still lost. The Big10 was over-hyped to start the year and fell on it face from the opening weekend. So UM was able to stuff crap Big10 offenses to have the top-ranked D...UGA supposedly had a top ranked D last year as well. Some talking head on ESPN mention this already....
It also leaves us with 2 to blow holes in tOSU's resume' when their AD has to step out of the room when the Buckeye's name comes up.
Skewed numbers made up by a bunch of biased hacks....
No way the tOSU will jump OU if OU beats UT. You can't lose by 29 points to a 6-6 Purdue Team, trail OU in the rankings for the last several weeks and then all of a sudden move ahead because you beat an overrated Michigan Team and then Northwestern.
Yes, we will have 2 Voices at the table when oSu is discussed, but I believe those voices can make a good argument against them without having to say 'Take OU, NOT oSu'...Their comments can be based on Fair Play, and there would be nothing fair about having oSu replace ANYONE ahead of them. Their Qualifications speak for themselves...SOS...Quality Wins...Shocking Loss, etc.
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Seems like a damn good idea to me. NCAA too blatantly ignorant to grasp that concept.
I've always liked the 6 team idea. Power5 plus one at large.
#1 and #2 get first round byes as a reward.
Has anyone ever believed #7 or #8 have a chance at being the best?
I said the 4-team format would make the regular MORE meaningful...........not "meaningless".
The problem with 6 is that your at large will always be a 2nd SEC team. Gives no opportunity for any non-P5 to make it. I do feel a 7 or 8 seed at large has a shot, any given year - probably more than the lowest rated P5 champ (e.g. Pac 12 champ this year).
With an 8-team playoff, we would get to see UCF compete and what is wrong with that? Appalachian State beat Michigan at Michigan a few years ago and Army took us to overtime this season so anything can happen.
