Specualtion vs Opinion vs Inuendo/Rumor

[barkingwater2000]

bcsscooner you are just looking for an argument.......again.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

Yet how do you know how one behind a screen is expressing their opinion? What if I can't find the right emoticon or forget to use one? Then there is the issue of literacy, or the lack thereof. Some are more literate than others. Some express things that leave me going, "What the hell does that mean?" because I have no idea what they are trying to say, while others are just too far above my head to understand.

Opinions are like that part of the anatomy that hopefully people wipe after being done with their business, everybody has one. Some seem to use their's more often, while others are more than likely full of crap, from the lack of using it properly or frequently enough. Of course, that is just speculation on my part, because I definitely don't go around checking, and, no, I'm not going to start.

Now whether my opinion that too many are big babies about this is speculation on my part, I really don't know or care, because the fact of the matter is that it was rumored to me some time ago...

I agree with what you're saying. For example, sometimes it's hard to express sarcasm through a keyboard. However, those disagreements usually get figured out.

What I mean by opinions not being equal is that some people possess more knowledge than others in certain subjects and it's obvious.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

No one has stated that opinions should be treated as equal. You, myself and everyone that posts on this board or any board has the absolute right to accept/deny anyone's opinion. It's how one handles themselves when one rejects someone's opinion. Some on this board believe that their opinion is greater than others, therefore they believe it's fair game to break message board rules and guidelines in effort to reject other's opinions, and this is flat out blatant wrong.

It's wrong for this community. It's wrong for the Moderators to be placed into this position of taking necessary action to prevent it. But some do this now on a regular basis with complete disregard for all us. It's disrespectful all who post here. But yet the Moderators have warned over & over & over. It's time for action for those that continue this behavior. I do not wish that anyone be banned, but I wish for an increased post count, dialogue, better environment and community even more so.

The behavior of some has strangled this board for too long. Post counts and dialogue is bad these days and when a good thread comes along, one can almost feel it to be derailed with bombs and grenades just to prevent it from going forward.

It's damn shame too.

Posted above, "All opinions on here are equal", suggests to me that there are posters on here who feel their opinion should be treated with equal merit along with others whose opinions are taking the time to support their opinion.

I don't think we're disagreeing here WNAS, but maybe just looking at the same thing from different sides. I see some post their opinions, and when someone such as myself or Plaino disagree with that opinion, the original poster takes it as a slight against their right to share the opinion.

I made it quite clear: Everybody has the right to share their opinion. And they need to be able to accept that other's will, most likely, disagree with that opinion. Someone disagreeing with an opinion is not the same as stating that person does not have the right to share their opinion at all.

BC, as I said, It's how one handles their response to an opnion. Something that some completely miss on. It comes to past that in most cases when someone posts an opinion, some posters simply can't handle it. They simply do not want the opinion to even be posted on this board, so... they go about actively generating disagreements with no civility implied by dropping insults etc at the poster that posted his/her opinion. They do this believing that they have every right to do so in an effort to publicly denounce and incremenate the said poster. Instead of retorting to the opinion with a thought process of discovery, they by design sabotage the thread. This is a clear violation of rules and guidelines and it needs to stop. Like yesterday. It's rude, disrespectful and it's designed to suffocate the growth of this board and to effectively censor other's opinions. This behavoir will not disipate until action is taken by the Moderators.

I'm on two other message boards. Neither has to do with OU Sports. In fact neither has to do with any sport. But they are solid boards. Packed with great information, thoughts and opinions. What one does not see divisions and fractures within the board community. The moderators of these boards do not allow it to occur. Posts are simply removed daily, hourly in fact. I have no idea if certain individuals lose their posting privileges for rude behavior, I just know that it's not allowed in any shape or form. As a result, many are open to post because they feel comfortable and without pretenses.

I agree with that, but it's not just one side, or one poster, or one side of a group of posters. It's a collection of posters. I'm guilty of it. You're guilty of it. Plaino is guilty of it. Yankee is guilty of it. SoonerTulsan was guilty of it. K2C's done it. In fact it would be easier if I named the posters off who are not guilty of having ever engaged in the pissing matches that have plagued this board for the last 3 or 4 years.

Quite frankly I'm tired of hearing posters who have actively participated in the bullshit talking about what it would take to stop the bullshit. It really doesn't bother me honestly. I enjoy arguing[/B] and debating with the posters I don't agree with or flat out don't like. You and Tulsan burned down many a thread with your pissing matches that would go on forever, so feel free not to think you haven't or aren't part of the problem. If some of you were as noble and mature as you claim, you would just shut the hell up and and move along, but don't cry about the problem while being part of the problem.

This is exactly what I mentioned above. You by design don't give a damn about the content of the board or message unless you disagree with it, and then you go about throwing greandes and bombs on the thread in an effort to destroy the message. This is your post, not mine. With reference to ST and myself, I was defending my thoughts and opinions that were so heavily attempted to be destroyed. When that didn't work, then the destroy the poster was used. I defended myself repeatedly because moderation did not. In the end, a moderator eventually stepped up and ended for us both. This should be placed into effect for all of us, including you. The BS crap between you and Yankee started in another thread should have been dealt with then. Instead it has actively moved into this. And for no reason than to place the importance of your enjoyment and pleasure of disrupting the message. This is re-actionable material now as it was in the other thread.

This post was edited on 2/20 3:07 PM by WhyNotaSooner

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Originally posted by barkingwater2000:
bcsscooner you are just looking for an argument.......again.

As opposed to you trolling?

I'm intelligent enough to see through your thinly veiled attempts. For example, deliberately referring to me as 'bcssooner'. It's why I intentionally referred to you as Yankee a few posts up. There is no excuse you and Yankee can make (even though I've seen some lame ones) to suggest why you do it. You're attempting to troll looking for an argument. Full stop.

 

[Jaaa]

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

No one has stated that opinions should be treated as equal. You, myself and everyone that posts on this board or any board has the absolute right to accept/deny anyone's opinion. It's how one handles themselves when one rejects someone's opinion. Some on this board believe that their opinion is greater than others, therefore they believe it's fair game to break message board rules and guidelines in effort to reject other's opinions, and this is flat out blatant wrong.

It's wrong for this community. It's wrong for the Moderators to be placed into this position of taking necessary action to prevent it. But some do this now on a regular basis with complete disregard for all us. It's disrespectful all who post here. But yet the Moderators have warned over & over & over. It's time for action for those that continue this behavior. I do not wish that anyone be banned, but I wish for an increased post count, dialogue, better environment and community even more so.

The behavior of some has strangled this board for too long. Post counts and dialogue is bad these days and when a good thread comes along, one can almost feel it to be derailed with bombs and grenades just to prevent it from going forward.

It's damn shame too.

Posted above, "All opinions on here are equal", suggests to me that there are posters on here who feel their opinion should be treated with equal merit along with others whose opinions are taking the time to support their opinion.

I don't think we're disagreeing here WNAS, but maybe just looking at the same thing from different sides. I see some post their opinions, and when someone such as myself or Plaino disagree with that opinion, the original poster takes it as a slight against their right to share the opinion.

I made it quite clear: Everybody has the right to share their opinion. And they need to be able to accept that other's will, most likely, disagree with that opinion. Someone disagreeing with an opinion is not the same as stating that person does not have the right to share their opinion at all.

BC, as I said, It's how one handles their response to an opnion. Something that some completely miss on. It comes to past that in most cases when someone posts an opinion, some posters simply can't handle it. They simply do not want the opinion to even be posted on this board, so... they go about actively generating disagreements with no civility implied by dropping insults etc at the poster that posted his/her opinion. They do this believing that they have every right to do so in an effort to publicly denounce and incremenate the said poster. Instead of retorting to the opinion with a thought process of discovery, they by design sabotage the thread. This is a clear violation of rules and guidelines and it needs to stop. Like yesterday. It's rude, disrespectful and it's designed to suffocate the growth of this board and to effectively censor other's opinions. This behavoir will not disipate until action is taken by the Moderators.

I'm on two other message boards. Neither has to do with OU Sports. In fact neither has to do with any sport. But they are solid boards. Packed with great information, thoughts and opinions. What one does not see divisions and fractures within the board community. The moderators of these boards do not allow it to occur. Posts are simply removed daily, hourly in fact. I have no idea if certain individuals lose their posting privileges for rude behavior, I just know that it's not allowed in any shape or form. As a result, many are open to post because they feel comfortable and without pretenses.

I agree with that, but it's not just one side, or one poster, or one side of a group of posters. It's a collection of posters. I'm guilty of it. You're guilty of it. Plaino is guilty of it. Yankee is guilty of it. SoonerTulsan was guilty of it. K2C's done it. In fact it would be easier if I named the posters off who are not guilty of having ever engaged in the pissing matches that have plagued this board for the last 3 or 4 years.

Quite frankly I'm tired of hearing posters who have actively participated in the bullshit talking about what it would take to stop the bullshit. It really doesn't bother me honestly. I enjoy arguing[/B] and debating with the posters I don't agree with or flat out don't like. You and Tulsan burned down many a thread with your pissing matches that would go on forever, so feel free not to think you haven't or aren't part of the problem. If some of you were as noble and mature as you claim, you would just shut the hell up and and move along, but don't cry about the problem while being part of the problem.

This is exactly what I mentioned above. You by design don't give a damn about the content of the board or message unless you disagree with it, and then you go about throwing greandes and bombs on the thread in an effort to destroy the message. This is your post, not mine. With reference to ST and myself, I was defending my thoughts and opinions that were so heavily attempted to destroy. I defended them because moderation did not. In the end, a moderator eventually stepped up and ended for us both. This should be placed into effect for all of us, including you. The BS crap between you and Yankee started up in another thread and actively moved onto this. For no reason than to place the importance of your enjoyment and pleasure of disrupting the message. This is re-actionable material.

Should I be surprised that you won't admit any fault? You and Tulsan were in pissing matches. Period. You were equally in the wrong as he was, and just because he's not here to defend himself doesn't give you the right to throw out your revisionist history.

Just like Tulsan, you can be a great poster, but you are arrogant and stubborn and won't let stuff go any more than he wouldn't.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

Yet how do you know how one behind a screen is expressing their opinion? What if I can't find the right emoticon or forget to use one? Then there is the issue of literacy, or the lack thereof. Some are more literate than others. Some express things that leave me going, "What the hell does that mean?" because I have no idea what they are trying to say, while others are just too far above my head to understand.

Opinions are like that part of the anatomy that hopefully people wipe after being done with their business, everybody has one. Some seem to use their's more often, while others are more than likely full of crap, from the lack of using it properly or frequently enough. Of course, that is just speculation on my part, because I definitely don't go around checking, and, no, I'm not going to start.

Now whether my opinion that too many are big babies about this is speculation on my part, I really don't know or care, because the fact of the matter is that it was rumored to me some time ago...

I agree with what you're saying. For example, sometimes it's hard to express sarcasm through a keyboard. However, those disagreements usually get figured out.

What I mean by opinions not being equal is that some people possess more knowledge than others in certain subjects and it's obvious.

If it's obvious, then why off on the poster and/or the message? If it's obvious then there is no need to destroy the opinion as in your own words, the opinion is obviously not worthy. Why not let it stand on it's own merit? Why the need to attack the poster? When you do this, you are only giving credence to their message.

 

[sooner_mike]

Originally posted by Jaaa:

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

Yeah a friend of a friend will not work. If it's being reported by a reporter or James Hale then all that would be needed is a link.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

No one has stated that opinions should be treated as equal. You, myself and everyone that posts on this board or any board has the absolute right to accept/deny anyone's opinion. It's how one handles themselves when one rejects someone's opinion. Some on this board believe that their opinion is greater than others, therefore they believe it's fair game to break message board rules and guidelines in effort to reject other's opinions, and this is flat out blatant wrong.

It's wrong for this community. It's wrong for the Moderators to be placed into this position of taking necessary action to prevent it. But some do this now on a regular basis with complete disregard for all us. It's disrespectful all who post here. But yet the Moderators have warned over & over & over. It's time for action for those that continue this behavior. I do not wish that anyone be banned, but I wish for an increased post count, dialogue, better environment and community even more so.

The behavior of some has strangled this board for too long. Post counts and dialogue is bad these days and when a good thread comes along, one can almost feel it to be derailed with bombs and grenades just to prevent it from going forward.

It's damn shame too.

Posted above, "All opinions on here are equal", suggests to me that there are posters on here who feel their opinion should be treated with equal merit along with others whose opinions are taking the time to support their opinion.

I don't think we're disagreeing here WNAS, but maybe just looking at the same thing from different sides. I see some post their opinions, and when someone such as myself or Plaino disagree with that opinion, the original poster takes it as a slight against their right to share the opinion.

I made it quite clear: Everybody has the right to share their opinion. And they need to be able to accept that other's will, most likely, disagree with that opinion. Someone disagreeing with an opinion is not the same as stating that person does not have the right to share their opinion at all.

BC, as I said, It's how one handles their response to an opnion. Something that some completely miss on. It comes to past that in most cases when someone posts an opinion, some posters simply can't handle it. They simply do not want the opinion to even be posted on this board, so... they go about actively generating disagreements with no civility implied by dropping insults etc at the poster that posted his/her opinion. They do this believing that they have every right to do so in an effort to publicly denounce and incremenate the said poster. Instead of retorting to the opinion with a thought process of discovery, they by design sabotage the thread. This is a clear violation of rules and guidelines and it needs to stop. Like yesterday. It's rude, disrespectful and it's designed to suffocate the growth of this board and to effectively censor other's opinions. This behavoir will not disipate until action is taken by the Moderators.

I'm on two other message boards. Neither has to do with OU Sports. In fact neither has to do with any sport. But they are solid boards. Packed with great information, thoughts and opinions. What one does not see divisions and fractures within the board community. The moderators of these boards do not allow it to occur. Posts are simply removed daily, hourly in fact. I have no idea if certain individuals lose their posting privileges for rude behavior, I just know that it's not allowed in any shape or form. As a result, many are open to post because they feel comfortable and without pretenses.

I agree with that, but it's not just one side, or one poster, or one side of a group of posters. It's a collection of posters. I'm guilty of it. You're guilty of it. Plaino is guilty of it. Yankee is guilty of it. SoonerTulsan was guilty of it. K2C's done it. In fact it would be easier if I named the posters off who are not guilty of having ever engaged in the pissing matches that have plagued this board for the last 3 or 4 years.

Quite frankly I'm tired of hearing posters who have actively participated in the bullshit talking about what it would take to stop the bullshit. It really doesn't bother me honestly. I enjoy arguing[/B] and debating with the posters I don't agree with or flat out don't like. You and Tulsan burned down many a thread with your pissing matches that would go on forever, so feel free not to think you haven't or aren't part of the problem. If some of you were as noble and mature as you claim, you would just shut the hell up and and move along, but don't cry about the problem while being part of the problem.

This is exactly what I mentioned above. You by design don't give a damn about the content of the board or message unless you disagree with it, and then you go about throwing greandes and bombs on the thread in an effort to destroy the message. This is your post, not mine. With reference to ST and myself, I was defending my thoughts and opinions that were so heavily attempted to destroy. I defended them because moderation did not. In the end, a moderator eventually stepped up and ended for us both. This should be placed into effect for all of us, including you. The BS crap between you and Yankee started up in another thread and actively moved onto this. For no reason than to place the importance of your enjoyment and pleasure of disrupting the message. This is re-actionable material.

Should I be surprised that you won't admit any fault? You and Tulsan were in pissing matches. Period. You were equally in the wrong as he was, and just because he's not here to defend himself doesn't give you the right to throw out your revisionist history.

Just like Tulsan, you can be a great poster, but you are arrogant and stubborn and won't let stuff go any more than he wouldn't.

Hey... you brought it up not me. I've put that in the past as I was advised to. I only speak to it when it's openly discussed. In fact, that is the first time I''ve even mentioned his handle or our past. If you want to butcher this thread even more then have at it. It's just another fine example of what I've been posting about.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

No one has stated that opinions should be treated as equal. You, myself and everyone that posts on this board or any board has the absolute right to accept/deny anyone's opinion. It's how one handles themselves when one rejects someone's opinion. Some on this board believe that their opinion is greater than others, therefore they believe it's fair game to break message board rules and guidelines in effort to reject other's opinions, and this is flat out blatant wrong.

It's wrong for this community. It's wrong for the Moderators to be placed into this position of taking necessary action to prevent it. But some do this now on a regular basis with complete disregard for all us. It's disrespectful all who post here. But yet the Moderators have warned over & over & over. It's time for action for those that continue this behavior. I do not wish that anyone be banned, but I wish for an increased post count, dialogue, better environment and community even more so.

The behavior of some has strangled this board for too long. Post counts and dialogue is bad these days and when a good thread comes along, one can almost feel it to be derailed with bombs and grenades just to prevent it from going forward.

It's damn shame too.

Posted above, "All opinions on here are equal", suggests to me that there are posters on here who feel their opinion should be treated with equal merit along with others whose opinions are taking the time to support their opinion.

I don't think we're disagreeing here WNAS, but maybe just looking at the same thing from different sides. I see some post their opinions, and when someone such as myself or Plaino disagree with that opinion, the original poster takes it as a slight against their right to share the opinion.

I made it quite clear: Everybody has the right to share their opinion. And they need to be able to accept that other's will, most likely, disagree with that opinion. Someone disagreeing with an opinion is not the same as stating that person does not have the right to share their opinion at all.

BC, as I said, It's how one handles their response to an opnion. Something that some completely miss on. It comes to past that in most cases when someone posts an opinion, some posters simply can't handle it. They simply do not want the opinion to even be posted on this board, so... they go about actively generating disagreements with no civility implied by dropping insults etc at the poster that posted his/her opinion. They do this believing that they have every right to do so in an effort to publicly denounce and incremenate the said poster. Instead of retorting to the opinion with a thought process of discovery, they by design sabotage the thread. This is a clear violation of rules and guidelines and it needs to stop. Like yesterday. It's rude, disrespectful and it's designed to suffocate the growth of this board and to effectively censor other's opinions. This behavoir will not disipate until action is taken by the Moderators.

I'm on two other message boards. Neither has to do with OU Sports. In fact neither has to do with any sport. But they are solid boards. Packed with great information, thoughts and opinions. What one does not see divisions and fractures within the board community. The moderators of these boards do not allow it to occur. Posts are simply removed daily, hourly in fact. I have no idea if certain individuals lose their posting privileges for rude behavior, I just know that it's not allowed in any shape or form. As a result, many are open to post because they feel comfortable and without pretenses.

I agree with that, but it's not just one side, or one poster, or one side of a group of posters. It's a collection of posters. I'm guilty of it. You're guilty of it. Plaino is guilty of it. Yankee is guilty of it. SoonerTulsan was guilty of it. K2C's done it. In fact it would be easier if I named the posters off who are not guilty of having ever engaged in the pissing matches that have plagued this board for the last 3 or 4 years.

Quite frankly I'm tired of hearing posters who have actively participated in the bullshit talking about what it would take to stop the bullshit. It really doesn't bother me honestly. I enjoy arguing[/B] and debating with the posters I don't agree with or flat out don't like. You and Tulsan burned down many a thread with your pissing matches that would go on forever, so feel free not to think you haven't or aren't part of the problem. If some of you were as noble and mature as you claim, you would just shut the hell up and and move along, but don't cry about the problem while being part of the problem.

This is exactly what I mentioned above. You by design don't give a damn about the content of the board or message unless you disagree with it, and then you go about throwing greandes and bombs on the thread in an effort to destroy the message. This is your post, not mine. With reference to ST and myself, I was defending my thoughts and opinions that were so heavily attempted to destroy. I defended them because moderation did not. In the end, a moderator eventually stepped up and ended for us both. This should be placed into effect for all of us, including you. The BS crap between you and Yankee started up in another thread and actively moved onto this. For no reason than to place the importance of your enjoyment and pleasure of disrupting the message. This is re-actionable material.

LOLOLOL... This becomes comedy to me, seriously. It is still a freaking message board. Opinions galore of differing importance and/or intelligence behind them. I'd prefer that everyone on the board be at least as smart as I am. But then if that were the case, I'd be the stupidest guy here... Oh, I already am you think? What makes you so bright? How do you know? While what one poster thinks or expresses on one thread is something I feel is relevant has no bearing on whether their next post is.

I for one am here for my enjoyment of learning about Sooner sports and whatever else I might find interesting. Don't worry, I search for posts that I think are stupid so I can bother people. That is what my life is all about after all, or is it? There are no grenades being thrown, just words on a screen still. Messages don't get destroyed by idiotic or rational responses, they are only destroyed within the mind of one who takes it all too seriously, reads more into than what is really there, or allows someone to get in their head through their own insecurity.

 

[Medic007]

Originally posted by Yankees03:
What a shock, bcssooner got his panties in a twist AGAIN lol. Dude you are too sensitive and it shows ALL the time. I simply agreed with CTokie and my logic applies for ANYONE not just plaino. Please quit taking this board so serious.

This post was edited on 2/20 1:47 PM by Yankees03

This is the type of crap that got you banned from OB, and from here previously. I'll assume this ONE reminder will be sufficient to remind you this is not a board this stuff will be allowed on.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

Yet how do you know how one behind a screen is expressing their opinion? What if I can't find the right emoticon or forget to use one? Then there is the issue of literacy, or the lack thereof. Some are more literate than others. Some express things that leave me going, "What the hell does that mean?" because I have no idea what they are trying to say, while others are just too far above my head to understand.

Opinions are like that part of the anatomy that hopefully people wipe after being done with their business, everybody has one. Some seem to use their's more often, while others are more than likely full of crap, from the lack of using it properly or frequently enough. Of course, that is just speculation on my part, because I definitely don't go around checking, and, no, I'm not going to start.

Now whether my opinion that too many are big babies about this is speculation on my part, I really don't know or care, because the fact of the matter is that it was rumored to me some time ago...

I agree with what you're saying. For example, sometimes it's hard to express sarcasm through a keyboard. However, those disagreements usually get figured out.

What I mean by opinions not being equal is that some people possess more knowledge than others in certain subjects and it's obvious.

If it's obvious, then why off on the poster and/or the message? If it's obvious then there is no need to destroy the opinion as in your own words, the opinion is obviously not worthy. Why not let it stand on it's own merit? Why the need to attack the poster? When you do this, you are only giving credence to their message.

Why ask why? It's a freaking internet message board. Obviously most of us here enjoy debating our opinion. If you disagree with an opinion, you debate it....but if I do it it is giving credence to their message? That's some lame rebuttal WNAS and a tad bit hypocritical.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Back to the orignal post....These are three completely different things.

As posters we all speculate on many, many topics and it's what keeps this board rolling.

We speculate on W/L records
We speculate on who might start
We speculate on who might be recruited and sign w/ OU
We speculate on what type of offense /defense might be played
We speculate on home games and road games.
We speculate on the Coaches hired/fired
We speculate on Coaches leaving the program
We speculate on other programs

We form opinions based on many inputs of our past beliefs and current trends.

I openly request that our Moderators do not confuse Speculation, Opinion with Inuendo & Rumors. Each is indifferent from the other. To stifle and censor speculation & opinion is to effectively kill this board.

If I'm banned for speculating or posting my opinion then so be it. As this board, in the 10+ years I've been around has NEVER prevented us from openly posting our thoughts. If this is to start, then it's not the board of the past and not the board I wish to participate in the future.

Thank You.

 

[barkingwater2000]

bcs you thrive on these types of conversations. I might have even done so myself 20 yrs ago but its just not worth the effort anymore. With all due respect, your opinion just really doesn't mean anything to me.

 

[Medic007]

Originally posted by Yankees03:
Poor bcssooner, everyone is always picking on him. Just stop dude, its embarrassing. Put me on ignore if you cant help from going after me, i dont know what to tell you. Have a good day

Refer to the post I just made regarding this crap.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Originally posted by barkingwater2000:
bcs you thrive on these types of conversations. I might have even done so myself 20 yrs ago but its just not worth the effort anymore. With all due respect, your opinion just really doesn't mean anything to me.

It means enough for you to keep on responding, while at the same time cowering away from my comments about calling me 'bcssooner'. Weak and predictable as always.

 

[Yankees03]

medic i just got back home and read the topic. Im fine with your above statement except one thing. You cant scold me yet look the other way when bcs is name calling and making false accusations. Most of the times i post anything here comes bcssooner to go after me and this topic proves exactly that. In short, making a poster a target.

 

[barkingwater2000]

Move along bcs.............find somebody else to argue with. Its getting old

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by Jaaa:

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

Yeah a friend of a friend will not work. If it's being reported by a reporter or James Hale then all that would be needed is a link.

And if I heard it on the radio and don't have a link? You have to realize, I'm in Port Lavaca, Texas, where we have a radio station, I think... Them having a website is doubtful. Yet they still talk about Sooner player Daniel Brooks from time to time. Are you saying I need to provide you a link if they talk about him? What if I talk to him?

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

Yet how do you know how one behind a screen is expressing their opinion? What if I can't find the right emoticon or forget to use one? Then there is the issue of literacy, or the lack thereof. Some are more literate than others. Some express things that leave me going, "What the hell does that mean?" because I have no idea what they are trying to say, while others are just too far above my head to understand.

Opinions are like that part of the anatomy that hopefully people wipe after being done with their business, everybody has one. Some seem to use their's more often, while others are more than likely full of crap, from the lack of using it properly or frequently enough. Of course, that is just speculation on my part, because I definitely don't go around checking, and, no, I'm not going to start.

Now whether my opinion that too many are big babies about this is speculation on my part, I really don't know or care, because the fact of the matter is that it was rumored to me some time ago...

I agree with what you're saying. For example, sometimes it's hard to express sarcasm through a keyboard. However, those disagreements usually get figured out.

What I mean by opinions not being equal is that some people possess more knowledge than others in certain subjects and it's obvious.

If it's obvious, then why off on the poster and/or the message? If it's obvious then there is no need to destroy the opinion as in your own words, the opinion is obviously not worthy. Why not let it stand on it's own merit? Why the need to attack the poster? When you do this, you are only giving credence to their message.

Why ask why? It's a freaking internet message board. Obviously most of us here enjoy debating our opinion. If you disagree with an opinion, you debate it....but if I do it it is giving credence to their message? That's some lame rebuttal WNAS and a tad bit hypocritical.

You think I care if you don't like my rebuttal or message? I seriously don't except for the fact that it does not contain a level of civility that is needed or desired. Your definition our debating is a far cry of what transpires within the rules/guidelines of this board. And remember, these are your words posted, not my interpretation of them. Debate is one thing. Lobbing grenades and bombs at posters is another to smear a message is another. Look I've never had an issue with you as a poster. But f you don't believe that I was not serious about cleaning up both sides of the crap when I was the moderator, then ask Mike. He'll tell you straight up that I didn't give a damn about any one poster or a group. He'll tell that I went about cleaning up on both sides of the aisle. My goal was to be about civility or be gone with certain posters until they operated within those guidelines. If Medic or Mike was attacked like I was today, like I was then, then they'd be all about taking out more trash as well. They know this.

This post was edited on 2/20 3:42 PM by WhyNotaSooner

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by barkingwater2000:
Move along bcs.............find somebody else to argue with. Its getting old

I think he means you can argue with me....

I'll start.. The sky is red.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Originally posted by barkingwater2000:
Move along bcs.............find somebody else to argue with. Its getting old

It's this simple: If you don't want to argue, quit directing comments toward me. Quit saying you're done with it an then not waling away. You don't have the authority to tell me to move along. Take your own advice or defend your argument.

 

[barkingwater2000]

lol..........watch out PT. That one statement could start a 4 page long debate.

 

[Medic007]

Originally posted by barkingwater2000:
bcs you thrive on these types of conversations. I might have even done so myself 20 yrs ago but its just not worth the effort anymore. With all due respect, your opinion just really doesn't mean anything to me.

And apparently you thrive on them as well as evidenced by your baiting replies to one single poster in this thread. So can I assume you time traveled back 20 years just for the day today?

Holy crap balls guys. Just be respectful to each other. If a poster's opinions are something you aren't going to be able to stomach despite plenty of attempts to debate, appreciate, grow fond of, etc, just move on. Ignore them. Don't engage them. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. This board is not going to become all round pegs or all square pegs. It won't ever happen. In order for any diverse anonymous group of people to be successful as a group, there has to be a level of tolerance that not everyone will be exactly alike. Regardless what you are posting, agreement, disagreement, or whatever, just be respectful! And if you find that you can't be or won't be toward a particular poster, don't respond to their posts.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by bcsoonerfan:
No, all opinions are not equal, but all opinions should be given equal opportunity to be expressed.

All opinions being equal is the equivalent of the 'no child left behind' and 'participation trophy' crap we see in society today. Patting everybody on the head and saying they are just as special and smart as everyone else isn't doing anyone any favors.

If you want to express an opinion of criticism, then you better be mature enough to handle criticisms of your opinion.

When you are withheld your right to express your opinion for no reason, then you have a legitimate complaint.

And remember, it's not what opinion you express, but how you express it. An opinion followed up with validations to the origin of that opinion and evidence to support it rarely receives negative rebuttal.

Yet how do you know how one behind a screen is expressing their opinion? What if I can't find the right emoticon or forget to use one? Then there is the issue of literacy, or the lack thereof. Some are more literate than others. Some express things that leave me going, "What the hell does that mean?" because I have no idea what they are trying to say, while others are just too far above my head to understand.

Opinions are like that part of the anatomy that hopefully people wipe after being done with their business, everybody has one. Some seem to use their's more often, while others are more than likely full of crap, from the lack of using it properly or frequently enough. Of course, that is just speculation on my part, because I definitely don't go around checking, and, no, I'm not going to start.

Now whether my opinion that too many are big babies about this is speculation on my part, I really don't know or care, because the fact of the matter is that it was rumored to me some time ago...

I agree with what you're saying. For example, sometimes it's hard to express sarcasm through a keyboard. However, those disagreements usually get figured out.

What I mean by opinions not being equal is that some people possess more knowledge than others in certain subjects and it's obvious.

If it's obvious, then why off on the poster and/or the message? If it's obvious then there is no need to destroy the opinion as in your own words, the opinion is obviously not worthy. Why not let it stand on it's own merit? Why the need to attack the poster? When you do this, you are only giving credence to their message.

Why ask why? It's a freaking internet message board. Obviously most of us here enjoy debating our opinion. If you disagree with an opinion, you debate it....but if I do it it is giving credence to their message? That's some lame rebuttal WNAS and a tad bit hypocritical.

You think I care if you don't like my rebuttal or message? I seriously don't except for the fact that it does not contain a level of civility that is needed or desired. Your definition our debating is a far cry of what transpires within the rules/guidelines of this board. And remember, these are your words posted, not my interpretation of them. Debate is one thing. Lobbing grenades and bombs at posters is another to smear a message is another. Look I've never had an issue with you as a poster. But f you don't believe that I was serious about cleaning up both sides of the crap when I was the moderator, then ask Mike. He'll tell you straight up that I didn't give a damn about any one poster or a group. He'll tell that I went about cleaning up on both sides of the aisle. My goal was to be about civility or be gone with certain posters until they operated within those guidelines. If Medic or Mike was attacked like I was today, like I was then, then they'd be all about taking out more trash as well. They know this.

I'm not questioning your goals as a moderator. I don't even really know what transpired to remove you of the position. But after you came back as a regular poster, you had an ax to grind.

And strongly disagreeing with someone's opinion is not "throwing a grenade". You obviously enjoying arguing your position or you wouldn't still be going back and forth with me right now.

 

[pfka_ms]

Interesting thread. Here are a couple of thoughts...

Can someone please explain the harm in saying. I heard a rumor that__________________... If you qualify it as a rumor and not try to pass it off as fact where is the harm?

The problem that I have seen is not people sharing their opinions it is the way people respond to those opinions. Tulsan was a great example of this. If he didn't agree with you he would take on the superiority role, start name calling and start belittle you and when he was done he would pound his chest and proclaim he had bitch slapped you.

If people would respond in the same manner they would if they were sitting around a table talking there wouldn't be a problem. Either that or I'm way off base here and people would be beating the hell out of each other over every little topic that was brought up.

Peace out
Boomer Sooner
and
Hook 'Em Horns

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by barkingwater2000:
lol..........watch out PT. That one statement could start a 4 page long debate.

Maybe, maybe not. What does it really matter? It might be a better conversation than the one going on right now...

 

[Yankees03]

Either that or I'm way off base here and people would be beating the hell out of each other over every little topic that was brought up.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

I'm done. This has been a prime time example of how the OP can be re-directed and destroyed over nothing but pure BS and angst of a couple of posters. The last 20 or posts have nothing to do with the OP, save for my rep-posting of it.


Later.

 

[barkingwater2000]

True...........I swear this same exact conversation has been played out over and over again for years now.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by pfka_ms:
Interesting thread. Here are a couple of thoughts...

Can someone please explain the harm in saying. I heard a rumor that__________________... If you qualify it as a rumor and not try to pass it off as fact where is the harm?

The problem that I have seen is not people sharing their opinions it is the way people respond to those opinions. Tulsan was a great example of this. If he didn't agree with you he would take on the superiority role, start name calling and start belittle you and when he was done he would pound his chest and proclaim he had bitch slapped you.

If people would respond in the same manner they would if they were sitting around a table talking there wouldn't be a problem. Either that or I'm way off base here and people would be beating the hell out of each other over every little topic that was brought up.

Peace out
Boomer Sooner
and
Hook 'Em Horns

I've come to the conclusion that in order to be bitch slapped, a bitch would have to slap me. Now whether that is my opinion, or just speculation on my part, I'm not sure.

While the table is an inanimate object, the people sitting around aren't. Unless someone made them that way after a lively debate...

 

[sooner_mike]

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by Jaaa:

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

Yeah a friend of a friend will not work. If it's being reported by a reporter or James Hale then all that would be needed is a link.

And if I heard it on the radio and don't have a link? You have to realize, I'm in Port Lavaca, Texas, where we have a radio station, I think... Them having a website is doubtful. Yet they still talk about Sooner player Daniel Brooks from time to time. Are you saying I need to provide you a link if they talk about him? What if I talk to him?

If the sports station has info more likely there source is the internet. So with a couple of clicks I'm sure you can find the information. This rule is not up for debate that's how the owners of this site wanted it. You can find the rule under message board guidelines pinned at the top of this board.

 

[JConXtsy]

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

I've come to the conclusion that in order to be bitch slapped, a bitch would have to slap me. Now whether that is my opinion, or just speculation on my part, I'm not sure.

While the table is an inanimate object, the people sitting around aren't. Unless someone made them that way after a lively debate...

Your speculating opinion is incorrect. Bitch is the object in bitchslap. Just like donkey is the object in donkeypunch.

When creating a verb out of both a verb and an object, the object tends to proceed the verb.

Another example: kickstarter
Usage: This thread was an excellent kickstarter for childish behavior.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by JConXtsy:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

I've come to the conclusion that in order to be bitch slapped, a bitch would have to slap me. Now whether that is my opinion, or just speculation on my part, I'm not sure.

While the table is an inanimate object, the people sitting around aren't. Unless someone made them that way after a lively debate...

Your speculating opinion is incorrect. Bitch is the object in bitchslap. Just like donkey is the object in donkeypunch.

When creating a verb out of both a verb and an object, the object tends to proceed the verb.

Another example: kickstarter
Usage: This thread was an excellent kickstarter for childish behavior.

Small correction.

This thread was excellent. Until used as a kickstarted for childish behavior.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by JConXtsy:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

I've come to the conclusion that in order to be bitch slapped, a bitch would have to slap me. Now whether that is my opinion, or just speculation on my part, I'm not sure.

While the table is an inanimate object, the people sitting around aren't. Unless someone made them that way after a lively debate...

Your speculating opinion is incorrect. Bitch is the object in bitchslap. Just like donkey is the object in donkeypunch.

When creating a verb out of both a verb and an object, the object tends to proceed the verb.

Another example: kickstarter
Usage: This thread was an excellent kickstarter for childish behavior.

Ah, you caught that there... I expect that from you though JC, you appear to be of high intelligence. Others, well, let's just say that one might be the bitch that thought he had slapped me. Maybe that can kick start someone...

 

[Senior Sooner]

And, in Summation...

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by Jaaa:

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

Yeah a friend of a friend will not work. If it's being reported by a reporter or James Hale then all that would be needed is a link.

And if I heard it on the radio and don't have a link? You have to realize, I'm in Port Lavaca, Texas, where we have a radio station, I think... Them having a website is doubtful. Yet they still talk about Sooner player Daniel Brooks from time to time. Are you saying I need to provide you a link if they talk about him? What if I talk to him?

If the sports station has info more likely there source is the internet. So with a couple of clicks I'm sure you can find the information. This rule is not up for debate that's how the owners of this site wanted it. You can find the rule under message board guidelines pinned at the top of this board.

Like I said, I live in Port Lavaca, Texas. If Daniel Brooks is talked about on the radio here or they interview him, which has happened, there is no link to provide. It isn't a rumor if it comes out of his mouth. So if I repeat what he says on the radio, how is that starting a rumor? He is not a friend of a friend...The rule says...

4. Do not post unsubstantiated rumors about players, coaches, etc. If you have a link to a news story, that is one thing. But if you have heard something 'from a friend of a friend,' this is not the website to post innuendo and rumor. Those posts will be removed.

 

[sooner_mike]

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by Jaaa:

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

Yeah a friend of a friend will not work. If it's being reported by a reporter or James Hale then all that would be needed is a link.

And if I heard it on the radio and don't have a link? You have to realize, I'm in Port Lavaca, Texas, where we have a radio station, I think... Them having a website is doubtful. Yet they still talk about Sooner player Daniel Brooks from time to time. Are you saying I need to provide you a link if they talk about him? What if I talk to him?

If the sports station has info more likely there source is the internet. So with a couple of clicks I'm sure you can find the information. This rule is not up for debate that's how the owners of this site wanted it. You can find the rule under message board guidelines pinned at the top of this board.

Like I said, I live in Port Lavaca, Texas. If Daniel Brooks is talked about on the radio here or they interview him, which has happened, there is no link to provide. It isn't a rumor if it comes out of his mouth. So if I repeat what he says on the radio, how is that starting a rumor? He is not a friend of a friend...The rule says...

4. Do not post unsubstantiated rumors about players, coaches, etc. If you have a link to a news story, that is one thing. But if you have heard something 'from a friend of a friend,' this is not the website to post innuendo and rumor. Those posts will be removed.

It really depends on how you word it. If you say they said on the radio here where I live that Daniel Brooks..... Then that's fine, but posting... Daniel Brooks is going to transfer will be deleted. Port it's always been this way.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by Jaaa:

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

Yeah a friend of a friend will not work. If it's being reported by a reporter or James Hale then all that would be needed is a link.

And if I heard it on the radio and don't have a link? You have to realize, I'm in Port Lavaca, Texas, where we have a radio station, I think... Them having a website is doubtful. Yet they still talk about Sooner player Daniel Brooks from time to time. Are you saying I need to provide you a link if they talk about him? What if I talk to him?

If the sports station has info more likely there source is the internet. So with a couple of clicks I'm sure you can find the information. This rule is not up for debate that's how the owners of this site wanted it. You can find the rule under message board guidelines pinned at the top of this board.

Like I said, I live in Port Lavaca, Texas. If Daniel Brooks is talked about on the radio here or they interview him, which has happened, there is no link to provide. It isn't a rumor if it comes out of his mouth. So if I repeat what he says on the radio, how is that starting a rumor? He is not a friend of a friend...The rule says...

4. Do not post unsubstantiated rumors about players, coaches, etc. If you have a link to a news story, that is one thing. But if you have heard something 'from a friend of a friend,' this is not the website to post innuendo and rumor. Those posts will be removed.

It really depends on how you word it. If you say they said on the radio here where I live that Daniel Brooks..... Then that's fine, but posting... Daniel Brooks is going to transfer will be deleted. Port it's always been this way.

Doubt that happens, he loves OU and plays on special teams. Be nice to see if he can catch the ball, not much passing down here in Calhoun County... That young man has some jets...

 

[sooner_mike]

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by PtLavacaSooner:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:

Originally posted by Jaaa:

I have seen rumor posts allowed that are attributed to a website - TOS or TFB etc.

Yet when I reported something a players dad told me it was taken down as a rumor.

James Hale reported this week that the new DL coach at OU was a white guy.

Rumors are rumors regardless where they are reported.

Yeah a friend of a friend will not work. If it's being reported by a reporter or James Hale then all that would be needed is a link.

And if I heard it on the radio and don't have a link? You have to realize, I'm in Port Lavaca, Texas, where we have a radio station, I think... Them having a website is doubtful. Yet they still talk about Sooner player Daniel Brooks from time to time. Are you saying I need to provide you a link if they talk about him? What if I talk to him?

If the sports station has info more likely there source is the internet. So with a couple of clicks I'm sure you can find the information. This rule is not up for debate that's how the owners of this site wanted it. You can find the rule under message board guidelines pinned at the top of this board.

Like I said, I live in Port Lavaca, Texas. If Daniel Brooks is talked about on the radio here or they interview him, which has happened, there is no link to provide. It isn't a rumor if it comes out of his mouth. So if I repeat what he says on the radio, how is that starting a rumor? He is not a friend of a friend...The rule says...

4. Do not post unsubstantiated rumors about players, coaches, etc. If you have a link to a news story, that is one thing. But if you have heard something 'from a friend of a friend,' this is not the website to post innuendo and rumor. Those posts will be removed.

It really depends on how you word it. If you say they said on the radio here where I live that Daniel Brooks..... Then that's fine, but posting... Daniel Brooks is going to transfer will be deleted. Port it's always been this way.

Doubt that happens, he loves OU and plays on special teams. Be nice to see if he can catch the ball, not much passing down here in Calhoun County... That young man has some jets...

Totally agree.