It continues...whine whine whine about Tua. Kyler had a consistent and solid year. These cry babies really need a life. I really hope we drill these douches.
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Honestly I think the Ohio State QB should have been second and Tua third.
Maybe they shouldn’t crown the winner before the season starts next year. Tua had such a huge predetermined lead, it took a near perfect season by Kyler to catch up. Haskins needed another game or two to catch Tua.Agree 100%.
It continues...whine whine whine about Tua. Kyler had a consistent and solid year. These cry babies really need a life. I really hope we drill these douches.
Yeah many times this season I thought if we didn’t have Kyler we’d be toast. He carried us all year and he’ll have to do it again against Bama.Tua is a better QB than Hurt, but I believe Alabama would be exactly where they are now had Jalen Hurt quarterbacked all year.
Not so with Murray, who took OU to an 11-1 record by himself and whose numbers were decidedly better than Tua's.
Not so with Murray, who took OU to an 11-1 record by himself and whose numbers were decidedly better than Tua's.
Tua is a better QB than Hurt, but I believe Alabama would be exactly where they are now had Jalen Hurt quarterbacked all year.
Not so with Murray, who took OU to an 11-1 record by himself and whose numbers were decidedly better than Tua's.
Really, wasn’t that to be expected? Let them whine knowing that if Tua had won Sooner fans would simply have congratulated him and wished him the best.
I know that. But Hurts may have still put Alabama in its current position.I disagree. Saban selected Tua over Hurts for a reason. Passing skills.
I know that. But Hurts may have still put Alabama in its current position.
I would have whined because I felt Kyler was the better QB, especially after watching Tua against Georgia. I have no problem with the best player winning, even if it's not a Sooner, but this time I felt Kyler had the better season, just like I thought Heuple got robbed by Weinke.
I understand a team's fan base wanting their own player to win an award, but I also personally believe in objectivity. Had I been an Alabama fan I would view Murray's resume as superior to the other two finalists....and as either an Alabama or OU fan, I am much more concerned about the games on December 29th and beyond.My point was that every fan base has those that will always feel butt hurt because they feel the same exact way about their guy as you do about Kyler. There were three worthy candidates and the right guy won in our opinion but not in the opinion of most Alabama fans. Imagine that.
Well ya know, the SEC has won 10 of the last 15 national titles. You can call it brainwashing, but the results don't lie. The SEC isn't what it was a handful of years ago, but tell me which conference has stepped up to knock the SEC off it's pedestal?The Heisman is nothing but a beauty contest. So of course you're never going to please everyone, and people will be butthurt. What the SEC and it's talking head supporters do is continually try to pump themselves up as far superior, while simultaneously putting down everyone else as inferior. All part of the brainwashing playbook...
No argument there. They are on a great title run (although isn't it just Bama at this point?; the other SEC titles are starting to fade into distant memory).Well ya know, the SEC has won 10 of the last 15 national titles. You can call it brainwashing, but the results don't lie. The SEC isn't what it was a handful of years ago, but tell me which conference has stepped up to knock the SEC off it's pedestal?
Well I am a Bama fan and I definitely felt that Kyler was the best player in the country. But I have objectivity.
Nobody was trying to sneak in Georgia. For some of the talk that Georgia deserved to be in, there was twice as much talk about how they shouldn't be included. And for all the SEC bias and conspiracy talk that exists out there, OU has been in the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years. And also OU has won the last 2 Heisman Trophies. OU isn't being conspired against to shut them out. OU has been getting it's shot at playing for National Titles, so yes they have been playing for them. Yes, OU has been getting into the playoffs to begin with. But OU isn't doing any favors for their national perception when every time they get to the playoffs, they are one and done. That's not a media or SEC bias thing. That's a "OU isn't taking care of business" thing.No argument there. They are on a great title run (although isn't it just Bama at this point?; the other SEC titles are starting to fade into distant memory).
But my point is more about opportunities and them trying to sneak UGA in this year. You can't win titles if you're not playing for them. In the current 4 team playoff system, SEC has had 5 teams play and has 2 titles (40% title teams). The B1G is at 33% (3 teams in, 1 title). ACC is at 25% (1 of 4). XII and PAC are 0-fer on 2 tries each. They talk as if the SEC is an automatic qualifier every year and want to include a 2nd team every year. At this point the rest of the SEC is riding 'Bama's coat-tails. While the XII needs to step up and WIN a damn playoff game, it's going to be really tough to do if they're not putting us in to begin with. The rest of the SEC needs to step up and WIN their conference if they want in...
But, for now, this is 'Bama's world and we're all just spectators. When does Saban retire??
They have no leg to go on. Kyler won the votes in every region with the exception of the South. Tua beat Kyler in the South region by 19 votes, whereas, Kyler beat Tua by an average of 63 votes in the other five regions. So, even in the South Tua barely squeezed out Kyler by a slim margin.
That's the sad reality of OU and its post season track record. And the Big 12 could sure use a boost with an OU championship.In order to change the nations perception of OU football, we need to beat Bama.