I have been a Sooner fan since 1968. Been through the good times and the bad times. But these are the worst times. I cannot deal with Mike Stoops any longer. Done and done until that clown is gone.
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I don't like him either, but there is no way I can give up watching the Sooners on Saturday. In spite of what we feel about the defensive coordinator I think we owe it to these young men that have chosen to play football for our favorite team the support that they need.
No, continuing down a path of historically bad performance and doing nothing about is not helping in any way. There is at least one other on the D staff with DC experience. If there’s any chance of salvaging this season, can Mike now, take advantage of the Bye and let whoever takes over have 2 weeks to make some changes, maybe, just maybe we can win out.You want Stoops canned in the middle of the year? That isn't going to happen and shouldn't. That won't solve any issues right now and would make the program look unstable and bad.
No, continuing down a path of historically bad performance and doing nothing about is not helping in any way. There is at least one other on the D staff with DC experience. If there’s any chance of salvaging this season, can Mike now, take advantage of the Bye and let whoever takes over have 2 weeks to make some changes, maybe, just maybe we can win out.
Keeping Stoops in through the end of the year does what good exactly?
At this point, I really don't care if firing MS this week or tomorrow is the wrong thing to do, the disrespectful thing to do, or the classless thing to do. Whats wrong, disrespectful and classless is him drawing a 1mil/year salary for what we saw yesterday. Up till yesterday I really still was wanting to hope the defense would turn a corner this year and we would be pleasantly surprised by the end of the year. But it's the same crap. For Mike to salvage has job in my mind, OUs defense better become just brutally dominant in every single game the rest of the season. That's really the only way to make up for that trash we saw yesterday. I was at the game and it was just painful and embarrassing.You want Stoops canned in the middle of the year? That isn't going to happen and shouldn't. That won't solve any issues right now and would make the program look unstable and bad. Now next year? I hope he is gone........meaning he will probably have to man up and quit.
Name me one player that sited Mike Stoops are the guy that recruited him? Most say Thibodeaux and Viney.Recruiting is all I got. We'll lose this class and most likely next year's class if he's fired now. But having said this, I really don't care as MS has recruited the players that fill out the defensive roster. Adding more of the same isn't going to help.
You may have a point here, but that certainly didn't apply yesterday. OUs defense didn't get a single stop in the first half yesterday. Fatigue had nothing to do with that. OUs defense just couldn't make plays needed to get off the field.Mike Stoops is truly a problem......but the defensive issues, in my opinion, are also a fault of the hurry-up offense that keeps the defensive unit on the field too often. The Oklahoma offense is sexy and exciting to watch, but it comes at the expense of the defense to a certain degree.
Texas and Army played ball control and wore down Oklahoma's defense and what I'm seeing now is fatigue taking its toll as much as poor tackling, confusion, missed assignments and poor preparation...all byproducts of terrible coaching.
If this were 1958 or 1978, I might be on suicide watch after that performance. But, it has become commonplace. Somehow, we learned to accept 10-2 as a good year and 11-1 with a blowout loss in a playoff game as the way it is. In 1978, the fans noticed when a player missed a block or got faked out on a tackle. I don't remember ever seeing a player push a pile ten yards after he was tackled. I don't remember seeing wide open players all over the field for a QB to throw to.
Army takes a group of guys, not one of whom we would have recruited out of highschool, and shoves us around. They are even wide open on their passes, and they don't pass. We couldn't tackle guys that wouldn't make our four deep. A big deal was made about the fact that it was a unique style, the wishbone. This is the same wishbone that we abandoned because everyone in the country had caught up to it, and we couldn't compete at the top level even with the best talent in the country, because we couldn't throw---except that we did and won another title. It's funny that we have won only one title since we abandoned the wishbone.
We didn't get pushed around because it was the wishbone. We got pushed around because we forgot something Switzer taught. You run each play a hundred times a day in practice because 99 are not enough. You don't miss blocks. You don't fail to execute, on offense or defense.
We lost a title because we couldn't make one yard in four downs from the one. How many times do we see a talented running back get stuffed at the line of scrimmage? We send a 240 pound running back off tackle, and he is stood up by a crowd. Same play comes at us, and they push us six yards downfield.
Defense is on the field too long because they don't do anything to get off the field. We backed Texas up to 3rd and 20, and they made it easily in two plays. How many 3rd and tens did we give up? Defenses don't get tired if they make plays and get off the field. I never want to hear fatigue used as an excuse. That's their job---get the other team off the field.
Since Switzer, we have accepted a difference level of achievement. We speak of winning conference titles. We think that is good. Execution left Oklahoma in 88, thirty years ago. You get what you accept. I would be proud if I were a fan of Army. They do extremely well with talent that nobody else wants because they execute to the best of their ability. Don't talk to me of four star or five star recruits when we have coaches who are proud of two star achievement.
Any more, I don't even miss a beat when we lose: Iowa State, so what? Texas, big deal. Softball team tries. Gymnastics teams both try. They execute and execute, and continue to try to improve. They want to be the best. Football, we won six titles (50-85). One since. Lot's of resting on fading laurels.
Let me know when Mike is no longer acceptable. Softball team lost two great pitchers. They'll try. Bet they do better than the football team this year, next year, the year after, etc.
If this were 1958 or 1978, I might be on suicide watch after that performance. But, it has become commonplace. Somehow, we learned to accept 10-2 as a good year and 11-1 with a blowout loss in a playoff game as the way it is. In 1978, the fans noticed when a player missed a block or got faked out on a tackle. I don't remember ever seeing a player push a pile ten yards after he was tackled. I don't remember seeing wide open players all over the field for a QB to throw to.
Army takes a group of guys, not one of whom we would have recruited out of highschool, and shoves us around. They are even wide open on their passes, and they don't pass. We couldn't tackle guys that wouldn't make our four deep. A big deal was made about the fact that it was a unique style, the wishbone. This is the same wishbone that we abandoned because everyone in the country had caught up to it, and we couldn't compete at the top level even with the best talent in the country, because we couldn't throw---except that we did and won another title. It's funny that we have won only one title since we abandoned the wishbone.
We didn't get pushed around because it was the wishbone. We got pushed around because we forgot something Switzer taught. You run each play a hundred times a day in practice because 99 are not enough. You don't miss blocks. You don't fail to execute, on offense or defense.
We lost a title because we couldn't make one yard in four downs from the one. How many times do we see a talented running back get stuffed at the line of scrimmage? We send a 240 pound running back off tackle, and he is stood up by a crowd. Same play comes at us, and they push us six yards downfield.
Defense is on the field too long because they don't do anything to get off the field. We backed Texas up to 3rd and 20, and they made it easily in two plays. How many 3rd and tens did we give up? Defenses don't get tired if they make plays and get off the field. I never want to hear fatigue used as an excuse. That's their job---get the other team off the field.
Since Switzer, we have accepted a difference level of achievement. We speak of winning conference titles. We think that is good. Execution left Oklahoma in 88, thirty years ago. You get what you accept. I would be proud if I were a fan of Army. They do extremely well with talent that nobody else wants because they execute to the best of their ability. Don't talk to me of four star or five star recruits when we have coaches who are proud of two star achievement.
Any more, I don't even miss a beat when we lose: Iowa State, so what? Texas, big deal. Softball team tries. Gymnastics teams both try. They execute and execute, and continue to try to improve. They want to be the best. Football, we won six titles (50-85). One since. Lot's of resting on fading laurels.
Let me know when Mike is no longer acceptable. Softball team lost two great pitchers. They'll try. Bet they do better than the football team this year, next year, the year after, etc.
If this were 1958 or 1978, I might be on suicide watch after that performance. But, it has become commonplace. Somehow, we learned to accept 10-2 as a good year and 11-1 with a blowout loss in a playoff game as the way it is. In 1978, the fans noticed when a player missed a block or got faked out on a tackle. I don't remember ever seeing a player push a pile ten yards after he was tackled. I don't remember seeing wide open players all over the field for a QB to throw to.
Army takes a group of guys, not one of whom we would have recruited out of highschool, and shoves us around. They are even wide open on their passes, and they don't pass. We couldn't tackle guys that wouldn't make our four deep. A big deal was made about the fact that it was a unique style, the wishbone. This is the same wishbone that we abandoned because everyone in the country had caught up to it, and we couldn't compete at the top level even with the best talent in the country, because we couldn't throw---except that we did and won another title. It's funny that we have won only one title since we abandoned the wishbone.
We didn't get pushed around because it was the wishbone. We got pushed around because we forgot something Switzer taught. You run each play a hundred times a day in practice because 99 are not enough. You don't miss blocks. You don't fail to execute, on offense or defense.
We lost a title because we couldn't make one yard in four downs from the one. How many times do we see a talented running back get stuffed at the line of scrimmage? We send a 240 pound running back off tackle, and he is stood up by a crowd. Same play comes at us, and they push us six yards downfield.
Defense is on the field too long because they don't do anything to get off the field. We backed Texas up to 3rd and 20, and they made it easily in two plays. How many 3rd and tens did we give up? Defenses don't get tired if they make plays and get off the field. I never want to hear fatigue used as an excuse. That's their job---get the other team off the field.
Since Switzer, we have accepted a difference level of achievement. We speak of winning conference titles. We think that is good. Execution left Oklahoma in 88, thirty years ago. You get what you accept. I would be proud if I were a fan of Army. They do extremely well with talent that nobody else wants because they execute to the best of their ability. Don't talk to me of four star or five star recruits when we have coaches who are proud of two star achievement.
Any more, I don't even miss a beat when we lose: Iowa State, so what? Texas, big deal. Softball team tries. Gymnastics teams both try. They execute and execute, and continue to try to improve. They want to be the best. Football, we won six titles (50-85). One since. Lot's of resting on fading laurels.
Let me know when Mike is no longer acceptable. Softball team lost two great pitchers. They'll try. Bet they do better than the football team this year, next year, the year after, etc.
When I disappear, it is nearly always because of political posts. Be quiet about politics.Sabarite great post. Good to see you around as I always have enjoyed your post.
When I disappear, it is nearly always because of political posts. Be quiet about politics.
If this were 1958 or 1978, I might be on suicide watch after that performance. But, it has become commonplace. Somehow, we learned to accept 10-2 as a good year and 11-1 with a blowout loss in a playoff game as the way it is. In 1978, the fans noticed when a player missed a block or got faked out on a tackle. I don't remember ever seeing a player push a pile ten yards after he was tackled. I don't remember seeing wide open players all over the field for a QB to throw to.
Army takes a group of guys, not one of whom we would have recruited out of highschool, and shoves us around. They are even wide open on their passes, and they don't pass. We couldn't tackle guys that wouldn't make our four deep. A big deal was made about the fact that it was a unique style, the wishbone. This is the same wishbone that we abandoned because everyone in the country had caught up to it, and we couldn't compete at the top level even with the best talent in the country, because we couldn't throw---except that we did and won another title. It's funny that we have won only one title since we abandoned the wishbone.
We didn't get pushed around because it was the wishbone. We got pushed around because we forgot something Switzer taught. You run each play a hundred times a day in practice because 99 are not enough. You don't miss blocks. You don't fail to execute, on offense or defense.
We lost a title because we couldn't make one yard in four downs from the one. How many times do we see a talented running back get stuffed at the line of scrimmage? We send a 240 pound running back off tackle, and he is stood up by a crowd. Same play comes at us, and they push us six yards downfield.
Defense is on the field too long because they don't do anything to get off the field. We backed Texas up to 3rd and 20, and they made it easily in two plays. How many 3rd and tens did we give up? Defenses don't get tired if they make plays and get off the field. I never want to hear fatigue used as an excuse. That's their job---get the other team off the field.
Since Switzer, we have accepted a difference level of achievement. We speak of winning conference titles. We think that is good. Execution left Oklahoma in 88, thirty years ago. You get what you accept. I would be proud if I were a fan of Army. They do extremely well with talent that nobody else wants because they execute to the best of their ability. Don't talk to me of four star or five star recruits when we have coaches who are proud of two star achievement.
Any more, I don't even miss a beat when we lose: Iowa State, so what? Texas, big deal. Softball team tries. Gymnastics teams both try. They execute and execute, and continue to try to improve. They want to be the best. Football, we won six titles (50-85). One since. Lot's of resting on fading laurels.
Let me know when Mike is no longer acceptable. Softball team lost two great pitchers. They'll try. Bet they do better than the football team this year, next year, the year after, etc.
Part of playing teams like Army, against players "we would have never recruited", has to do with playing against players who are better coached and more disciplined. It's an example of brains winning over brawn.....and I also think it's playing against players who aren't afraid of losing because they know they're at West Point for much more important things. This makes them more resilient to bad breaks, busted plays or losing a game.If this were 1958 or 1978, I might be on suicide watch after that performance. But, it has become commonplace. Somehow, we learned to accept 10-2 as a good year and 11-1 with a blowout loss in a playoff game as the way it is. In 1978, the fans noticed when a player missed a block or got faked out on a tackle. I don't remember ever seeing a player push a pile ten yards after he was tackled. I don't remember seeing wide open players all over the field for a QB to throw to.
Army takes a group of guys, not one of whom we would have recruited out of highschool, and shoves us around. They are even wide open on their passes, and they don't pass. We couldn't tackle guys that wouldn't make our four deep. A big deal was made about the fact that it was a unique style, the wishbone. This is the same wishbone that we abandoned because everyone in the country had caught up to it, and we couldn't compete at the top level even with the best talent in the country, because we couldn't throw---except that we did and won another title. It's funny that we have won only one title since we abandoned the wishbone.
We didn't get pushed around because it was the wishbone. We got pushed around because we forgot something Switzer taught. You run each play a hundred times a day in practice because 99 are not enough. You don't miss blocks. You don't fail to execute, on offense or defense.
We lost a title because we couldn't make one yard in four downs from the one. How many times do we see a talented running back get stuffed at the line of scrimmage? We send a 240 pound running back off tackle, and he is stood up by a crowd. Same play comes at us, and they push us six yards downfield.
Defense is on the field too long because they don't do anything to get off the field. We backed Texas up to 3rd and 20, and they made it easily in two plays. How many 3rd and tens did we give up? Defenses don't get tired if they make plays and get off the field. I never want to hear fatigue used as an excuse. That's their job---get the other team off the field.
Since Switzer, we have accepted a difference level of achievement. We speak of winning conference titles. We think that is good. Execution left Oklahoma in 88, thirty years ago. You get what you accept. I would be proud if I were a fan of Army. They do extremely well with talent that nobody else wants because they execute to the best of their ability. Don't talk to me of four star or five star recruits when we have coaches who are proud of two star achievement.
Any more, I don't even miss a beat when we lose: Iowa State, so what? Texas, big deal. Softball team tries. Gymnastics teams both try. They execute and execute, and continue to try to improve. They want to be the best. Football, we won six titles (50-85). One since. Lot's of resting on fading laurels.
Let me know when Mike is no longer acceptable. Softball team lost two great pitchers. They'll try. Bet they do better than the football team this year, next year, the year after, etc.
When I disappear, it is nearly always because of political posts. Be quiet about politics.