The announcement will be made Monday.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-broncos-mvp-super-bowl-record-book/80244254/
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Multiple sources confirm that Peyton Manning is retiring.
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He should go out on top. Don't be like Favre and make multiple comebacks. Besides, I don't think he's got enough gas left in the tank to make a run at another season, much less another SuperBowl.
I think that with his neck issues and other body ailments. that this will be a one retirement, retirement announcement.
A forced retirement Broncos are set to cut him Tuesday and nobody else wants him. I am sure we will start hearing rumblings of him coming back in July once a Qb goes down
I'm a huge Bronco fan, and never miss watching a game on TV. Peyton just doesn't have the arm strength to continue on. I felt that going into this year that the 2015 season would be the last time Peyton would be in a Bronco uniform. Peyton had to make a choice, retire or be released. Great career, but it's time to retire.
Maybe surprising to some, maybe not to Broncos fans, but Brock Osweiler actually performed better than Peyton in almost ever statistical category this past season. Assuming he gets even incrementally better and Peyton gets incrementally worse, there'd be no reason to bring Peyton back.
Winning a Super Bowl in your final year is Isa great way to go out. I know there is a talk about the Broncos are going to cut him, and the talk about Denvers defense carried him to a Super Bowl. A guy like Peyton would prolly take that as a challenge and feel as if he has something to prove by coming back. But really the guy has nothing left to prove. I would hate to see him come back and falter in his final years like many greats do. It would be incredible for his legacy to go out on top with a 2nd Super Bowl ring. He is one of the best ever.
I'm so old, when someone mentions a Manning, I think of Archie....
I'm so young, when someone mentions "Archie", I think to myself, "Who?"
I'm so young, when someone mentions "Archie", I think to myself, "Who?"
I'm so old, when I see Steve Spurrier mentioned, I think of a former Heisman trophy winner, instead of the "old ball coach".
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I wouldn't say that. Charles Woodson had an unbelievable senior year and led his team to the NC.
Charles Woodson was a defensive back who made huge defensive plays all year, and also multiple touchdowns returning kicks. And then Michigan decided to give him some offensive snaps and he had some highlight plays on offense.
Peyton was considered a bit of a disappointment, despite his obviously outstanding college career, just because of all the hype around him. He was 0-4 against quality Florida teams in his career. His junior and senior years, the Gator DC was a guy named Bob Stoops. The Vols did finally, his senior year, win their only SEC championship, but they lost to Nebraska 42-17 in the Orange Bowl. The Husker win was considered so dominating, that they ended up in a split national title with Michigan. Both Michigan and Nebraska were undefeated.
Perhaps the biggest factor in his second place finish his senior year, was a 21-17 junior year loss to Memphis who won only three other games. Ryan Leaf didn't sniff a Heisman. He had a very good senior year, but Michigan beat Washington State (Leaf's team) 21-16 in the Rose Bowl. Now the bowl games had nothing to do with Heisman voting. It was a two man race between Woodson and Manning.
But Woodson's spectacular and more than once game changing plays, had been considered the prime reason that Michigan was headed for a co championship. And Woodson played as long as Peyton did in the NFL, eventually. Michigan had experienced four consecutive four-loss seasons from 93 to 96. So in 1997 when they were suddenly undefeated and headed to the Rose Bowl, it was a positive factor for Woodson.
Again, not a factor in the Heisman voting, but Tennessee barely beat a good not great, Auburn 30-29 in the SEC title game. Peyton was not the dominant college quarterback he'd become in the NFL.
But he filled a role that has happened many times in college sports. Like Oscar Robertson (in basketball), Jack Mildren, Bill Bradley, Troy Aikman (combined with Marcus Dupree), and others, he was considered the can't miss elite recruit that got close to a national title but came up short. But the recruits in subsequent classes, who gravitated toward a school that had "that guy," won a national title after the elite guy had moved on. Mildren at OU and Bradley at Texas, saw the impact of their notoriety in recruiting bring back to back national championships. Texas in 1969-70 and OU in 1974-75.
Tennessee won the NC with an underrated quarterback, Tee Martin, a year after Peyton graduated. Martin, who is now the OC at USC, was the first African-American quarterback from the SEC to win a national title. So even after graduating, Manning's college career disappointment was added to in 1998, a year after he graduated. Some had blamed Phillip Fulmer for the Vols failure to win the NC during Peyton's time. But he won it the year after Peyton left.
Some did consider Ryan Leaf a better pro prospect. The Colts apparently gave some thought to taking Leaf, but apparently not for very long. Leaf had a little bit of Johnny Manziel in him. He liked to party as much as play quarterback. He was an NFL failure. Manning is known by everybody as the consummate pro in terms of preparation. But Leaf was about 1000 points behind Woodson in the Heisman voting.
Woodson (433) 1815
Manning (281) 1543
Leaf (70) 861
Randy Moss (17) 253 .... Ricky Williams was fifth.
Peyton was considered a bit of a disappointment, despite his obviously outstanding college career, just because of all the hype around him. He was 0-4 against quality Florida teams in his career. His junior and senior years, the Gator DC was a guy named Bob Stoops. The Vols did finally, his senior year, win their only SEC championship, but they lost to Nebraska 42-17 in the Orange Bowl. The Husker win was considered so dominating, that they ended up in a split national title with Michigan. Both Michigan and Nebraska were undefeated.
Perhaps the biggest factor in his second place finish his senior year, was a 21-17 junior year loss to Memphis who won only three other games. Ryan Leaf didn't sniff a Heisman. He had a very good senior year, but Michigan beat Washington State (Leaf's team) 21-16 in the Rose Bowl. Now the bowl games had nothing to do with Heisman voting. It was a two man race between Woodson and Manning.
But Woodson's spectacular and more than once game changing plays, had been considered the prime reason that Michigan was headed for a co championship. And Woodson played as long as Peyton did in the NFL, eventually. Michigan had experienced four consecutive four-loss seasons from 93 to 96. So in 1997 when they were suddenly undefeated and headed to the Rose Bowl, it was a positive factor for Woodson.
Again, not a factor in the Heisman voting, but Tennessee barely beat a good not great, Auburn 30-29 in the SEC title game. Peyton was not the dominant college quarterback he'd become in the NFL.
But he filled a role that has happened many times in college sports. Like Oscar Robertson (in basketball), Jack Mildren, Bill Bradley, Troy Aikman (combined with Marcus Dupree), and others, he was considered the can't miss elite recruit that got close to a national title but came up short. But the recruits in subsequent classes, who gravitated toward a school that had "that guy," won a national title after the elite guy had moved on. Mildren at OU and Bradley at Texas, saw the impact of their notoriety in recruiting bring back to back national championships. Texas in 1969-70 and OU in 1974-75.
Tennessee won the NC with an underrated quarterback, Tee Martin, a year after Peyton graduated. Martin, who is now the OC at USC, was the first African-American quarterback from the SEC to win a national title. So even after graduating, Manning's college career disappointment was added to in 1998, a year after he graduated. Some had blamed Phillip Fulmer for the Vols failure to win the NC during Peyton's time. But he won it the year after Peyton left.
Some did consider Ryan Leaf a better pro prospect. The Colts apparently gave some thought to taking Leaf, but apparently not for very long. Leaf had a little bit of Johnny Manziel in him. He liked to party as much as play quarterback. He was an NFL failure. Manning is known by everybody as the consummate pro in terms of preparation. But Leaf was about 1000 points behind Woodson in the Heisman voting.
Woodson (433) 1815
Manning (281) 1543
Leaf (70) 861
Randy Moss (17) 253 .... Ricky Williams was fifth.
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Didn't the Colts want Leaf at first, but Leaf told them he had no interest in playing for them, so they went for Manning? Maybe Ryan Leaf should be considered the greatest Colts GM of all time.
I think the irony in that was Eli did the same thing to the Chargers if I recall, or someone for that matter.
I think the irony in that was Eli did the same thing to the Chargers if I recall, or someone for that matter.
Manning probably should have played at a Big ten school which would have lowered the bar for winning a Heisman.
From 1994-97, the SEC compiled a 10-2 record against Big Ten teams, which included a 6-0 record in 1996-97.
Woodson was a great player and he was fortunate to have had his best games on national television as well as Michigan's great marketing job for his Heisman hopes which eclipsed Tennessee's effort for Manning, by far.
I have no problem with Woodson's winning the award.
And as for Manning's failure to beat Florida, I recall that Florida had great defenses then and Manning's offensive line was abused in those games.
From 1994-97, the SEC compiled a 10-2 record against Big Ten teams, which included a 6-0 record in 1996-97.
Woodson was a great player and he was fortunate to have had his best games on national television as well as Michigan's great marketing job for his Heisman hopes which eclipsed Tennessee's effort for Manning, by far.
I have no problem with Woodson's winning the award.
And as for Manning's failure to beat Florida, I recall that Florida had great defenses then and Manning's offensive line was abused in those games.
Not in 1995 they didn't. Nebraska abused Florida's defense in the NC game so badly, that Spurrier hired that kid from Kansas State, who gave him a chance to play good defense.
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