Just a quick recap of Josh_M's weekly chat presented in a condensed form.
2. Anthony White
3. Cayden Green
2. Jaydon Chatmon, Spencer Fano, Terrance Green, and Amier Washington are some that stick out to me.
OU:
O: Adrian Peterson, I doubt he'll ever be topped for me.
D: Tommie Harris, his speed and agility...incredible.
CFB:
O: Randy Moss, maybe the most dominant player I've ever seen.
D: Jevon Kearse, just an absolute monster
2.
OT: Anton Harrison
OG: Andrew Raym
C: Robert Congel
OG: Chris Murray
OT: Wanya Morris
Game 1:
OT: Savion Byrd
OG: Chris Murray
C: Andrew Raym
OG: McKade Mettauer
OT: Wanya Morris
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1%...ish?
Pinn doesn't want to be mod. Not a chance in hell.
1. I think backs should be fairly similar, maybe a bit more straight line guys, one cut types, etc.
WR, no question you're going to see bigger more vertical guys.
OL, I don't expect to see any big changes, I also think QB mobility is probably more important than it was under Riley but that's a marginal gap IMO.
2. I think you're just going to see less reliance on height/weight as a pillar of the decisions coaches are making. I think the most CLEAR difference will be along the DL where you're going to see bigger bodies.
*What people know...not sure. But I'll say something that don't get much love that I enjoy...
1. Old Forester - Statesman
2. Uncle Nearest
3. Willett Rye - 4 year, always one of my favorites.
1. Yeah, I think we're up there top 10ish, we're (now) among the largest work in so many different spots, etc. Now we've just got to start adding more staff....(HI-YO).
2.
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1. I mean you assume that all the guys stayed, I'd say 12-2.
2. I'm guessing 11-3.
1. If you're FORCING me, I'll buy but honestly I doubt the QBs are the difference in that game. Gabriel is a good, not great, player and will be ready to hit the ground running thanks to his familiarity with the scheme. Ewers is an unbelievable talent
2. I'm noticing that as well and I think part of it is Brent knowing he's got to build bonds but still he'll do more team building than Riley ever did because that's just who he is.
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We now have a roborock and I can't wait until it dies - it's awful.
I mean in a perfect world, sure but who is going to compete with Dillon Gabriel when Jaxson Dart didn't want to? And if it's just a depth guy...what difference does it make?
1. It would have to be Bama landing guys they prefer and Collins not feeling like a priority. I don't see OU winning a head up battle with Alabama for an in-state guy. In short? OU will need some help.
2. Wow, that's a great question...
1. I'm trying to put something together for late this week/early next week.
2.
O: Farooq
D: Stutsman
1. Top 5. That sort of return THAT fast...people will get crazy.
2. I mean it depends on who the NT is, but to me that's a jump because you get into the question of how Bonitto fits into that plan, etc.
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1.
For real? I'm picking OU to win the Big 12 at this point so...that's a freebie.
1. I don't think it's fair to say Riley cared about who the 'cool' players were, but his recruiting pitch was definitely connected to OU BEING cool. Venables and company DO NOT care about that. It's not different from what Bob Stoops used to say - 'OU isn't for everyone' because of the way it works and handles things.
2. USMNT stays a creeping danger in my eyes.
C.
I just am a huge believer in the way he handles himself and his calm when under duress.
I think that will be interesting as the scheme has never really lived in a world where it's line talent was capable of being on part with just about anyone. It's a legitimate concern though, there's just no question.
1. Some of his coaches have mentioned him to me, his athleticism seems pretty elite - very anxious to get a better look at him.
2. I honestly haven't tried any of them - you've piqued my interest though.
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CMU - W
ASU - W
UAPB - W
BAY - L
TTU - W
TCU - L
UT - W
KSU - L
KU - W
ISU - L
OU - L
WVU - W
7-5.
I think OSU's pass rush is going to be a real problem, I also think they have some playmakers at WR but I just don't see enough consistency at OL and in the back seven - people don't realize how much trouble Rodriguez kept them out of.
1. It's a group conversation between Gorney, Friedman, and the rest of our regional guys after they've talked with guys like me.
2. Wilkin Formby, Lucas Simmons, and Markis Deal.
hahahaha, first.
1. Gabe Lynn, Ben Habern, Jeff Mead, Gerald McCoy, and Chuka Ndulue.
2. hahhaa, that's more of a consideration for those poor young men.
3. Largely, I think she just worries about guys who are nice and respectful.
4. Eddie. Carey has a work wife.
5. Eddie's wedding? 0% but I'd love to be the one to give him away.
1.
Lebby - Two years
Bates - 6 years.
Roof - 2 years.
2. I think so - Todd Bates.
*OU, Wolves ain't winning that any time soon - Leicester was a moonshot.
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1. No, I don't. I mean Chavis appeared to be the first hire Venables made. I think he knew who he wanted for that spot and just didn't entertain another idea.
2. Oh like...a 4. I'm a basic for sure.
1. I am, it seems to counter against what was said but I'm GUESSING that will be implemented more in 2025. You don't want to spend 2-6 months falling behind those who 'have offered' because them building a relationship with you and proving their interest wasn't possible. You're just punishing yourself at that point.
The momentum, it's always dangerous this far out to fall too far in love with that but it does feel like good things are happening.
2. Yeah, probably though I admit I'm sheepish on believing that OU is going to rack in 6+ guys from FL/GA that are currently holding offers.
Maybe I'll be wrong but that's just a lot of work in a VERY competitive region.
1. To me it's about how you buy into Sark. I think Ewers has all the required talent - I wonder a bit about his maturity/leadership based on some decisions he has made but if Sark can point him right, he'll AT LEAST be very good IMO.
2.
OL play/depth - They are in a bad spot at tackle if Harrison, Byrd, and Morris don't get it figured out, fast.
Pass rush - Redmond returns but there's not a lot else that has proven itself capable of coming off the edge and being dangerous.
Playmakers - I can't believe it's a question at OU but they don't have the gamewinners at WR, RB, etc. that we've seen through the last 7-8 years.
*Might have something in WOKE...
1.
2. I think for some guys that's what it is but I also think some think OU was Nebraska but with Lincoln Riley. Add in heading to the SEC and some are just convinced they can't compete. I mean OU is pretty much one of 2-3 national powers that comes from an area that isn't STOCKED with elite talent - those programs are just rare.
I also don't think most understand how much Venables is setting up an infrastructure and the flexibility that will give OU.
Cale Gundy.
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1. I can't believe it but...maybe. And there's part of me that thinks with Venables that may be ideal, give him a chance to put 3 full classes together and have MOST of the roster be his the way he wanted it.
That said, while I'm no legal expert, to me when this much money is being thrown around I'd bet just about any move could be made if the #s are right.
2.
Top end Talent:
OL
WR
RB
QB
TE
Depth:
RB
QB
WR
TE
OL
1. It feels that way to me but he has said he'll visit soon so we'll see.
2. I bet he does.
1. Not often but if you can pull off a few steals...perfect.
2. Nah, I think OU can go in there and get a win or two but it's going to be rare and kind of unique scenarios IMO.
3. Unless recruits are close, not really. I mean most recruits don't know 'this guy I kind of know chose UGA over OU, Bama, etc.' They just know 'he chose UGA'.
Now if you ARE the pick it can help but it's not usually a big negative unless they are pretty familiar - teammates, etc.
1. I grew up a fan of OU, MSU came along in middle school and was definitely something I took more of a shine to in my early years in the job as I worked to pull away from the biases of fandom. I just kind of fell into this (I've told that story a bunch of times) and have always loved this job, it's so unlike anything else I could ever think to be doing.
2. Not at all. Gabriel's a good player but Baker is AT LEAST a top 5 guy in school history.
Sure, and the thing to remember is that offer list had LOT of GA, FL guys because a LOT of the TX guys had already been offered and the breakdown didn't include guys that had already been offered by the previous staff.
So that breakdown made things seem more Southeast focused than they truly are IMO.
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2. That's not my impression but I'm kind of not sure HOW that isn't the reality, so I'm going to say...maybe.
2. FIND A DAMN QUARTERBACK.
2. I wonder a bit about he and Stacy Gage and what that could mean for OU if they end up where I think they will.
2. hahahaha, that's not a bad idea but I'm not smart enough to have considered it on my own.
Need to get Lucas Simmons, maybe pull a big steal for McVay or Reichert and then you start rolling a bit.
1. Dylan Edwards
2. Anthony White
3. Cayden Green
1. Peyton Bowen, Aidan Mizell, Kayden McDonald, Desmond Umeozulu, Adepoju Adebawore, Anthony Hill, S'Maje Burrell, Javien Toviano, Kaleb Spencer, and Nyckoles Harbor.
2. Jaydon Chatmon, Spencer Fano, Terrance Green, and Amier Washington are some that stick out to me.
1.
OU:
O: Adrian Peterson, I doubt he'll ever be topped for me.
D: Tommie Harris, his speed and agility...incredible.
CFB:
O: Randy Moss, maybe the most dominant player I've ever seen.
D: Jevon Kearse, just an absolute monster
2.
Spring:
OT: Anton Harrison
OG: Andrew Raym
C: Robert Congel
OG: Chris Murray
OT: Wanya Morris
Game 1:
OT: Savion Byrd
OG: Chris Murray
C: Andrew Raym
OG: McKade Mettauer
OT: Wanya Morris
FRIDAY!
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1%...ish?
Pinn doesn't want to be mod. Not a chance in hell.
1. I think backs should be fairly similar, maybe a bit more straight line guys, one cut types, etc.
WR, no question you're going to see bigger more vertical guys.
OL, I don't expect to see any big changes, I also think QB mobility is probably more important than it was under Riley but that's a marginal gap IMO.
2. I think you're just going to see less reliance on height/weight as a pillar of the decisions coaches are making. I think the most CLEAR difference will be along the DL where you're going to see bigger bodies.
*What people know...not sure. But I'll say something that don't get much love that I enjoy...
1. Old Forester - Statesman
2. Uncle Nearest
3. Willett Rye - 4 year, always one of my favorites.
1. Yeah, I think we're up there top 10ish, we're (now) among the largest work in so many different spots, etc. Now we've just got to start adding more staff....(HI-YO).
2.
TexAgs
Bucknuts
BuckeyeScoop
BamaOnline
Warchant
The Wolverine
Volquest
1. I mean you assume that all the guys stayed, I'd say 12-2.
2. I'm guessing 11-3.
1. If you're FORCING me, I'll buy but honestly I doubt the QBs are the difference in that game. Gabriel is a good, not great, player and will be ready to hit the ground running thanks to his familiarity with the scheme. Ewers is an unbelievable talent
2. I'm noticing that as well and I think part of it is Brent knowing he's got to build bonds but still he'll do more team building than Riley ever did because that's just who he is.
----
I've got NO IDEA if this is a subtext question I'm missing.
But I'll take you at face value (dangerous as hell) and say the best one we've had was a Neato.
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We now have a roborock and I can't wait until it dies - it's awful.
I mean in a perfect world, sure but who is going to compete with Dillon Gabriel when Jaxson Dart didn't want to? And if it's just a depth guy...what difference does it make?
1. It would have to be Bama landing guys they prefer and Collins not feeling like a priority. I don't see OU winning a head up battle with Alabama for an in-state guy. In short? OU will need some help.
2. Wow, that's a great question...
1. I'm trying to put something together for late this week/early next week.
2.
O: Farooq
D: Stutsman
1. Top 5. That sort of return THAT fast...people will get crazy.
2. I mean it depends on who the NT is, but to me that's a jump because you get into the question of how Bonitto fits into that plan, etc.
----
1.
For real? I'm picking OU to win the Big 12 at this point so...that's a freebie.
1. I don't think it's fair to say Riley cared about who the 'cool' players were, but his recruiting pitch was definitely connected to OU BEING cool. Venables and company DO NOT care about that. It's not different from what Bob Stoops used to say - 'OU isn't for everyone' because of the way it works and handles things.
2. USMNT stays a creeping danger in my eyes.
C.
I just am a huge believer in the way he handles himself and his calm when under duress.
I think that will be interesting as the scheme has never really lived in a world where it's line talent was capable of being on part with just about anyone. It's a legitimate concern though, there's just no question.
1. Some of his coaches have mentioned him to me, his athleticism seems pretty elite - very anxious to get a better look at him.
2. I honestly haven't tried any of them - you've piqued my interest though.
-----
CMU - W
ASU - W
UAPB - W
BAY - L
TTU - W
TCU - L
UT - W
KSU - L
KU - W
ISU - L
OU - L
WVU - W
7-5.
I think OSU's pass rush is going to be a real problem, I also think they have some playmakers at WR but I just don't see enough consistency at OL and in the back seven - people don't realize how much trouble Rodriguez kept them out of.
1. It's a group conversation between Gorney, Friedman, and the rest of our regional guys after they've talked with guys like me.
2. Wilkin Formby, Lucas Simmons, and Markis Deal.
hahahaha, first.
1. Gabe Lynn, Ben Habern, Jeff Mead, Gerald McCoy, and Chuka Ndulue.
2. hahhaa, that's more of a consideration for those poor young men.
3. Largely, I think she just worries about guys who are nice and respectful.
4. Eddie. Carey has a work wife.
5. Eddie's wedding? 0% but I'd love to be the one to give him away.
1.
Lebby - Two years
Bates - 6 years.
Roof - 2 years.
2. I think so - Todd Bates.
*OU, Wolves ain't winning that any time soon - Leicester was a moonshot.
----
1. No, I don't. I mean Chavis appeared to be the first hire Venables made. I think he knew who he wanted for that spot and just didn't entertain another idea.
2. Oh like...a 4. I'm a basic for sure.
1. I am, it seems to counter against what was said but I'm GUESSING that will be implemented more in 2025. You don't want to spend 2-6 months falling behind those who 'have offered' because them building a relationship with you and proving their interest wasn't possible. You're just punishing yourself at that point.
The momentum, it's always dangerous this far out to fall too far in love with that but it does feel like good things are happening.
2. Yeah, probably though I admit I'm sheepish on believing that OU is going to rack in 6+ guys from FL/GA that are currently holding offers.
Maybe I'll be wrong but that's just a lot of work in a VERY competitive region.
1. To me it's about how you buy into Sark. I think Ewers has all the required talent - I wonder a bit about his maturity/leadership based on some decisions he has made but if Sark can point him right, he'll AT LEAST be very good IMO.
2.
OL play/depth - They are in a bad spot at tackle if Harrison, Byrd, and Morris don't get it figured out, fast.
Pass rush - Redmond returns but there's not a lot else that has proven itself capable of coming off the edge and being dangerous.
Playmakers - I can't believe it's a question at OU but they don't have the gamewinners at WR, RB, etc. that we've seen through the last 7-8 years.
*Might have something in WOKE...
1.
2. I think for some guys that's what it is but I also think some think OU was Nebraska but with Lincoln Riley. Add in heading to the SEC and some are just convinced they can't compete. I mean OU is pretty much one of 2-3 national powers that comes from an area that isn't STOCKED with elite talent - those programs are just rare.
I also don't think most understand how much Venables is setting up an infrastructure and the flexibility that will give OU.
Cale Gundy.
-----
1. I can't believe it but...maybe. And there's part of me that thinks with Venables that may be ideal, give him a chance to put 3 full classes together and have MOST of the roster be his the way he wanted it.
That said, while I'm no legal expert, to me when this much money is being thrown around I'd bet just about any move could be made if the #s are right.
2.
Top end Talent:
OL
WR
RB
QB
TE
Depth:
RB
QB
WR
TE
OL
1. It feels that way to me but he has said he'll visit soon so we'll see.
2. I bet he does.
1. Not often but if you can pull off a few steals...perfect.
2. Nah, I think OU can go in there and get a win or two but it's going to be rare and kind of unique scenarios IMO.
3. Unless recruits are close, not really. I mean most recruits don't know 'this guy I kind of know chose UGA over OU, Bama, etc.' They just know 'he chose UGA'.
Now if you ARE the pick it can help but it's not usually a big negative unless they are pretty familiar - teammates, etc.
1. I grew up a fan of OU, MSU came along in middle school and was definitely something I took more of a shine to in my early years in the job as I worked to pull away from the biases of fandom. I just kind of fell into this (I've told that story a bunch of times) and have always loved this job, it's so unlike anything else I could ever think to be doing.
2. Not at all. Gabriel's a good player but Baker is AT LEAST a top 5 guy in school history.
Sure, and the thing to remember is that offer list had LOT of GA, FL guys because a LOT of the TX guys had already been offered and the breakdown didn't include guys that had already been offered by the previous staff.
So that breakdown made things seem more Southeast focused than they truly are IMO.
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1. Oh I mean...maybe a little but not like that. Texas gets that because they get a new head coach go and tell all the TX kids that 'now everything changes'. I mean let's be real people are much more likely to believe something they WANT to believe in.
2. That's not my impression but I'm kind of not sure HOW that isn't the reality, so I'm going to say...maybe.
1. 2027?
2. FIND A DAMN QUARTERBACK.
1. To me that's been the only real misstep and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it but right now it feels like OU has just surrendered Houston. It's a tough spot for OU to win but I don't think you can ignore it.
2. I wonder a bit about he and Stacy Gage and what that could mean for OU if they end up where I think they will.
1. Beware, I cook bacon in my underwear.
2. hahahaha, that's not a bad idea but I'm not smart enough to have considered it on my own.
Pretty well, I think by the season they'll have one of the best OTs in the class and it's about filling in pieces around he and Bates - who I 've been told OU has long considered one of the top centers in the country.
Need to get Lucas Simmons, maybe pull a big steal for McVay or Reichert and then you start rolling a bit.
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