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Ivy League bans Tackling in Practice

How is one supposed to tackle correctly on game day, if they don't do something close to simulating it in practice. I'm just wondering who it is that made this decision. Was it athletic people like coaches, or AD's or maybe university presidents, who find tackling their secretary's to be exposure to their horrible technique.
 
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The opening line answers that question, "Football Coaches in the Ivy League unanimously decided..."
 
My favorite paragraph was this one, which I hope is an extremely simplified interpretation of what was really studied, or this might be the most intuitive and useless study ever performed. -

A study done by Ph.D. holder Timothy A. McGuine—a senior scientist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison—showed the elimination of full-contact practices could decrease injuries at lower levels of the sport, per Bert B. Vargas, M.D., of Neurology Reviews.

DUH!
 
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I can appreciate schools, administrators and coaches wanting to do all they can to minimize injuries and improve player safety, but to no longer practice tackling is a huge step in the wrong direction. I'm sure there are other things coaches can do, such as eliminate drills that may result in head-to-head contact, but to completely eliminate tackling during practice is not something I can get on board. We may see a slight increase in injuries (not necessarily concussions) as players may not practice proper tackling techniques and place themselves at even greater risk for injury during games.
 
I would bet that within the next decade football will undergo more changes like this one. Another rule change I have heard about is the elimination of kickoffs.
Given the increase in the size and speed of players in today's game, I believe football will always be very physical, regardless of changes.....and having watched football since the 1950's, I see an intent-to-injure mentality emerging more and more every year, above and beyond the physicality of the sport.
 
I have spent more than half of my fall Friday nights in a press box at a high school football stadium over the last 40 plus years. Probably over 80%. I took a few years off, after I got married and my kids were young. But you learn stuff up there that's not about the game. Half of the press boxes, the scribes sit in the same place, sometimes even next to scouts from teams, that will be playing one or both on the field in the next week, or two or three.

Dallas ISD scouts a few years ago told me that they have a rule in their district that they cannot scout more than one game against any team. When they play each other in district games, it's okay, because they are playing teams with the same restrictions. Fair is fair. There isn't enough money to pay sub varsity coaches to scout more than that.

So in a press box when the playoffs are getting near, one young guy who teaches in DISD is there by himself, scouting a game where his school might be playing either team. A best guess is made about who that might be, so he can focus on them.

A one school town like Allen is the opposite of that. They will have two guys there to scout each team that they might play. Often, there are contingencies where there might be a half dozen teams or more that they might face in the first or second or third round of the playoffs. And all of those teams get two sub varsity coaches there to look for tendencies, pace of the game and of course showing how they lined up on each play, both offensively and defensively. With two guys for each team, they get a lot more information and get more right. It's an enormous advantage.

Now college teams aren't allowed such a tactic. No representative on any staff is allowed to scout any team on their schedule. It's part of why the Jeff Lebby deal was such a big deal last season. That's not my point.

My point is that Ivy league teams usually only play each other with maybe one other school thrown in. So the fact that none of them are allowed any athletic scholarships is just fine. (BTW, I had a friend whose son was recruited by an Ivy. When I reminded him of that no ship thing, he smiled and told me that just about every athlete at an Ivy League school qualifies for an academic scholarship, so while many or most there don't really need a ship, anybody that does is usually on an academic ship.) And so if Ivy schools play each other, then it shouldn't be that big of a deal, though I have no idea how you figure out who a football player is without at least a little scrimmaging. But I looked at Harvard's schedule last year. They played ten games, seven were a conference game. They also played Rhode Island, Lafayette and Georgetown. I had no idea that Georgetown is still playing football. Or maybe they returned to playing football.

Harvard was 9-1 while going undefeated in their three non conference games. If this rule lasts for long, I have no idea how well they might do outside of their league games in the future. Maybe the rest will help them compete better. Heck, who knows. If OU had dealt with those kinds of practice restrictions, maybe Dante Hickson would have been a two year starter. We wouldn't have known his ability to break tackles, but he'd have played a lot since he was such a highly ranked recruit.

But to me, that's a little like being a basketball coach who doesn't allow shooting during practice. It's kind of the basis of the game.

Next thing the Ivy's will do, is require penalty on game day for a pancake block. Or ban hitting dummies in practice, because the guy holding the dummy might get hurt.
 
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Listened to an interview on the radio with the Dartmouth coach. He said, as the article states, they do practice tackling, and they do it using the correct technique. They just don't practice tackling on each other. Not only do they have less injuries in practice, but the practice has resulted in less missed tackles and injuries in games. They are healthier throughout the entire season allowing them to be more competitive. Dartmouth results for the past 5 seasons are below.

2015 9-1
2014 8-2
2013 6-4
2012 6-4
2011 5-5

I never played football and I'm certainly no expert, but if it helps reduce injuries, especially head injuries, and the quality of play does not suffer too much, than I'm all for it.
 
They just don't practice tackling each other? What does that mean?

If it means you don't scrimmage ever, I still don't know how you could evaluate your players. But I guess if you don't have an scholarships, you have fewer to choose from, so you might as well keep them healthy, even is you aren't so good on game day.

When I first got to OU, I was appalled at the lack of to the ground tackling in practice. It surely wasn't like that at my then AA high school. But in high school, we didn't have spring practice. During the season, there was no to the ground tackling, even by the starting defense on the scout team guys. Though the defensive guys did ignore that occasionally when they got mad at somebody.

But there was scrimmaging in August. The offense during team periods only hit dummies. But there was full contact blocking by the OLIne, just about 9/10 speed during the time players practiced by position groups three of four days a week. Sort of a full speed practice speed. If some young guy was trying to prove something against a starter,, then he got a short lesson in the difference between high school and college full speed. And in the spring, a lot more contact.

But I still don't get how you can figure out who your best football players are, if you don't play real football at least a little in practice. Politics?
 
Does anyone have any idea on how much we have full contact in our spring practices? Practices have been closed several years. I suspect it's less than most think with blue jerseys, etc.

I used to make the Tulsa pre-season practices in the 80's. Here's my break down of what I saw nearly every time.

First a lot of running sprints after warming up.
Breakout to individual groups. Examples: OL versus DL. QB's working with receivers.
Coaches stopping plays to coach certain breakdowns by players.
Lots of players on the exercise bikes.
About an hour into the practice they would go into full contact, yet the coaches often stopped after a play to coach someone up. I swear I don't think they ran over 30 full contact plays from the line of scrimmage on any given day I watched them and I was there a lot.

Last thing they did was work on special teams, again not much contact. Just assignment work.

Now someone is going to say this is Tulsa, but they had some pretty successful teams in those days.
 
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