I don't judge the state of the OU football program by how it compares to Texas. OU beat Texas last year and it was nice, but OU still went 8-5 and it was a shitty season.
Bob changing mind on brother Mike?
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I don't judge the state of the OU football program by how it compares to Texas. OU beat Texas last year and it was nice, but OU still went 8-5 and it was a shitty season.
Gotta say I do agree with you here CT to a point. We see this I think most in recruiting. OU just doesn't seem to be making the Top 5 of the elite caliber athletes coming out of high school like it once did early in Bob's tenure. Seems especially the last 2-3 years, OU is having to recruit 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th option kids more and more. The Big XII being left out of the playoff last year was just a brutal hit to the perception of the conference.
But even with the decline of the conference, OU hasn't been able to capitalize on it. You would think as the conference declines, that OU would take advantage and dominate. But OU has only one outright conference title in the last 6 seaosns. OU has declined faster than the conference as a whole I suppose. But oddly enough, Baylor has managed to go the other direction and take it's football program to a level it's never been.
Texas isn't the standard these days. Baylor & TCU are setting the pace in the B12.
Texas will be the standard shortly. Texas has the 2nd best D in the league easily
Clinton..... You will run and hide when Stoops and the boys dominate on D this season. Top 20 D easily
You don't have the talent to field a top 20 D. I would love to hear you retort that.
Great linebackers with a very good D Line and the secondary has a shut down corner on one side and a lot of good talent mixed in throughout rest of Back end.
You have nothing of substance to defend your dumb comments. Beat it dumb ass
Soonersincefitty
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I like your style dfw...reminds me of me, before I got all mellow and reformed.
You're replacing 3 NFL Dlinemen and an NFL corner and you believe you're going to be a top 20 unit this year and you're calling ME dumb? Hahahahahaha...mmmkay :0)
100 bucks right now...I say you will not be Top 20 - now, you pick: total or scoring defense?
Mike Stoops did a great job for Bob his first time around, but offenses are much different today than then. I don't feel Mike is as good a defensive coach against teams like TCU, Baylor, or even Riley's new offense will be. Last year I was thinking that Mike would find a spot in the SEC or Big 10 where his talents are best utilized. Now, I'm not too sure given the way Ohio State has began to move other conference teams to the similar pass/wide open offenses. I wasn't that happy about Bob keeping him on board, but I understand why he did and have posted such before, i.e., as dfw posted, Bob and Mike are a package deal." I am glad that Bob made the defensive coaching changes he did, but I wish he had gone at least one step further and replaced Tim Kish. Moving Mike to DE coach was a good move on Bob's part, IMO. IMHO, there are only four things that can happen that will cause Mike Stoops to leave OU. 1 - He gets another chance to be HC. 2 - Bob leaves OU. 3 - Mark Stoops hires him at Kentucky. 4 - This year's defense is so shitty that Mike aggressively looks and finds another job. None of these are likely to happen.
If you are referring to Wilson at corner I am LMAO.... Did you watch the Baylor game?? I would take air over Wilson.
Yes I watched that game. Mikey was a board favorite after that game making his corners line up 15 yards off the ball LMAO!!!!
They was the game that got him put in the press box after lambasting Wilson on the sideline, when it was CLEARLY his fault for concocting such a garbage defensive scheme on the fly.
This quote should be made into a sticky and posted up top ^^^
Medic007
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How are the Pokes looking this upcoming season Clinton? Any goods or bads you can share? I've been so busy this summer I haven't been able to keep up to date.
The goods are there - athletic all over, experienced D outside of DT, starting Oline should be solid if they stay healthy
The bad - DT depth is unknown with Darrion Daniels slated to play immediately. Safety hasn't produced a difference maker yet. Tailback is an unknown, but if Chris Carson is the real deal we might be OK.
The bad - DT depth is unknown with Darrion Daniels slated to play immediately. Safety hasn't produced a difference maker yet. Tailback is an unknown, but if Chris Carson is the real deal we might be OK.
Medic007
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Gundy staying with Rudolph as starter or will there be a QB battle this month? I think I recall Gundy saying Rudolph was the guy going forward at some point earlier this year.
He's been the starter since the spring. I'm still concerned about our ability to take pressure off of him running the ball. Salako the kid from UAB who's playing left tackle will certainly help.
Medic007
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Roger and thanks for the replies. I'll have more time to follow August camp.
Its not just TCU or Baylor. W. Virginia lit us up as did Clemson and many others. As far as #4 goes, Mike will be going low down on the totem pole if we have another sub par defensive season. He might be looking at a Tulsa or Arkansas State.
Bob and Mike are starting to remind me of Jimmy and Billy Carter during the 1970's.
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