You seem to have excuses for Arnold?

What’s your opinion on this, @Brandon Drumm and @Parker Thune? You hear the same? Even if he could have come back and started, he would have left anyways?
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Dang. Anyone know who he is referring to on his latest tweets?

Any feedback from the recruits lastnight?

all summer long when OU was going to get G5 and FCS players from the portal yall defended it with that “if you can play, you can play anywhere” bullshit. Yall used FCS generational players like Jared Verse etc to make the players we got sound good but truth is - as many of us said when the commitments happened, boooo 👎. @Parker Thune and @Brandon Drumm constantly talked those mid ass transfer commitments up lmao. And got defensive when some of us said why are we taking guys like Sam Franklin etc from those lower level programs. Yall thought the world was crazy for being sleep on Baur Sharp and co.

Going into the SEC, OU assembled an offensive line that relied on transfers from SMU, UNT, and USC to anchor it lmaooooooooooooooo.
We brought in players from lower level programs to build “competitive depth” in a higher level conference. Make that make sense. Meanwhile the other big time SEC teams were shopping for the best available in P4 conferences.

Sure there may be some gems here and there but for the most that’s not the case. There’s levels.

10 point loss is honestly not that bad. There was obviously some REALLY bad offense in the first half but at least we found footing in the second. We can wait to hit the panic button till we see Hawkins at QB1 playout for a little bit. We can all agree it looked a lot more cohesive in the second half so before we start angry mobbing lets give these guys our support! Fun week ahead heading to auburn, very winnable game, and we need to portray some confidence for these guys if we even want to have a lick of chance against Texas.

I remember when the Selmon brothers were playing OU and I believe it was Barry that said "he wished they had more sons" or something like that. I kind of feel the same way about the Bowen brothers. Quality, quality young men who are just bad ass football players with a game IQ that seems off the chart for their age. Tennessee tested Eli a few times early when he was in and every time I've seen the kid he is in the right spot at the right time just like his brother always seems to be. Kudos to those boys.

If you're BV or Littrell, who are you starting at QB on Saturday, truthfully? I'm not asking in the hot take, reactive sense. I mean within the context of managing an entire roster, recruiting, etc., where you know that benching Arnold likely means he transfers (at some point) and your QB room is in upheaval. It's not a cost free decision to say the least. And yet, based one everything you've seen over the past 3 games (going back to the bowl game last year), what would you do?

These are the games Oklahoma has needed the past decade+ in the season in order to develop into a championship program.

@dmackey13 referenced in another thread that in this era, and in the SEC, one, even two losses is not the end of the world.

OU played a VERY good team and hung around. This is how you carry your program to the next level. Offense will develop but you cannot replicate the challenges that this conference will present each week and when it’s time, OU will know where it stands and how to win at the highest level and get number 8.

If he isn't QB1 next week he should hit the portal.
If he started tonight we win.
Good game by our defense.
Safe to say Defense is back.

Trash

Think about it… I’d say that game is 50/50 as well

I am really excited to see if the defense can keep playing great and if Hawkins and the offense can show enough this week to get the W. My family is making the trip, and it should be a fun one. I predict a Sooners win. OU 20 Auburn 10

Here is the thing. Let’s stop and take a second and recognize that crazy irrational fans everywhere want to pull their quarterback after a bad game. Remember last year when everyone said pull DG for Jackson? It was silly then and it’s silly now to say we should move to Hawkins after he has played 3 games as a starter. Let me break this down for my rational friends out there.

First, Jackson played well against temple and had some incredible throws. Early in the Houston game he had a couple misses, but also threw some great balls. When we were up 14-3 around the 50 yard line we had 3rd and 11… Jackson hit Bauer Sharp in the numbers for a first down.. he dropped it. Next possession Jackson hit Zion Ragins in the hands on 3rd and 9 around the same part of the field dropped it. Jackson threw a screen pass to our fastest player that was blocked up well… dropped it. When you have a young quarterback you need players around him to help make him comfortable and make him better. Build his confidence. Jackson got the opposite of that against Houston. Run game was bad and receivers missed the opportunities that were there for big plays.

Now, I’m not saying Jackson didn’t start to struggle… he certainly did. But it started to fall apart after some missed opportunities and the pressure of being in a one score game shook him up a bit. But guess what… that happens to young players sometimes when things are going poorly. They have to work through it and grow out of it. Give the kid a chance to do that.

Yesterday Caleb Williams looked rough in his opener in the NFL. You think the bears are ready to bench him? No. Because rational coaches and GM’s who know football better than the common person don’t think irrationally.

Give Jackson some time. Let’s see if playmakers can start to help him out and get his confidence back. He has elite tools and is crazy talented. Let’s just take a breath and see what happens against Tulane. There might be a time to bail on Jackson, but that time is not now.

As much as I want OU to win every game, here we go....

Oklahoma 27 Auburn 17
Texas 35 Oklahoma 20
Oklahoma 31 South Carolina 20
Ole Miss 38 Oklahoma 27
Oklahoma 41 Maine 3
Oklahoma 17 Mizzou 13
Alabama 27 Oklahoma 17
Oklahoma 21 LSU 20

Final Record 8-4

I have noticed that in the last few years, we always seem to play down to the competition. YOU HAVE TO BE THE BULLY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IF YOU WANT TO BE ELITE... PERIOD! And I am not talking about ripping your helmet off after a play (you know who you are), I am talking about dominating the guy across from you every single play regardless of score, or who they are, on every single play. We seem to have become a very NICE TEAM in the last few years. I am terrified every game because I am not sure who is showing up. I thought with BV we were going to become the BULLY again, but we have not. We almost seem to play with FEAR (minus a few games). Texas game last year you could feel the 'hate'. But then you get beat the very next week by a lesser opponent. You didn't see the Saban Alabama teams, the Kirby Smart Georgia teams (anyone recall his pregame speech leaked, those players wanted to destroy the opponent), etc. play that way (there were exceptions but you get my meaning). If they can beat you by 70, they will beat you by 70. I can already hear the argument "Well they had better talent". My argument back would be that so do we most of the time...across-the-board. Switzer's teams had that mentality. We better figure out a way to get it back or this SEC initiation it's going to be rough for a few years. BOOMER!

And here were are have looked serviceable offensively the first 3 games and last night horrible. Littrell needs firing at the end of the year.. He was still trying to run the ball late in the 4th quarter. If it wasn't for this great D.. God knows.

It’s been back and forth and back and forth, but I am expecting that he will announce his intent to return for Year 6 in an Oklahoma uniform.

Saw him flat out quit on his team. He didn’t even get examined just ran to the locker room to put on street clothes. Tired of hearing about him coming back he’s done here.

Is Arnold a bust based on recruiting rankings or might he be worth the hype, but we don’t have the staff to develop him…?

Stoops was a defensive guy and spent years and years bringing in top offensive minds (Leach, Wilson, Heupel, LR) to run the offense for him. BV watched this take place for what 15 years? made the right choice in getting a great OC and QB coach in lebby and then all the sudden we can’t hire anyone and promote two guys that quite frankly have never proven themselves in this job? not sure how you guys see it but i would hope he backtracks and gets someone serious so we don’t end up w a one sided team again like LR (who also should’ve known better btw)

Would Troy Taylor leave Stanford head coaching job for OU OC

This guy is a complete failure! He had 3 years to get this OL settled. He failed.. His I’m going to F around for 4-5 weeks, worked fine IN THE BIG 12.. We will not stand a chance in SEC with BB as OL coach.. Another thing for you delusional BB lovers.. Northwestern, NC State, Miss State, Boston College, N Iowa, Tulsa and Chattanooga.. All had OL drafted in 1st RD the last 2 years. So if you use that argument for BB.. You are a ****ing moron!

-Is the team made of glass? Are we just not physical enough? Seems like a lot of injuries piling up. Is it conditioning?

-I think we need a QB coach that has coached QBs. I think we need an OC too. I dont think either of them are on staff now.

-I’m not sure this oline is a one year fix.

-I hope Hickman isn’t 100% because if that was him at 100% we have issues at center

-There was lots of talk about how good the WR room is. People saying Burks is a 1st rounder and our depth is really good. At the end of the game we were running out Ragins, Thompson, Roberts, Bauer as our passing targets. Not formidable.

-Our kicker missed an extra point after we made a two pt conversion that got called back because of illegal hands to the face. This is our season in a nutshell.

-I’m not sure any RB would be productive with this oline but the fall off that Sawchuk has seen in opportunities and production is a mystery.

-Nick, buddy, let’s play some football.