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Hypothetical Situation/Question

Maybe this discussion can help those like me who are confused at the prospect of this given scenario.

QB play hasn’t been where we would like it to be, coaching, injuries, OLine play etc… it hasn’t been very consistent and personally I think Hawkins is better than Arnold. Neither here nor there.

If we brought in Arbuckle and John Mateer, I see a lot of people that are saying that Hawkins would transfer, but I don’t understand why, nothing would change with Hawkins timeline to originally be the guy when first signed to be a Sooner. He always knew that he would be behind JA for two years before JA’s struggles. If we bring in a proven vet like Mateer, he sits and learns under him for a year and if everything falls into place he is poised for a breakout RS JR year.

What are y’all’s thoughts on this potential situation that we could find our QB room in the next month.

Softball OU softball: It's a new era for the Sooners

Softball content in November? Softball content in November.

Quotes from several new players and Patty Gasso on the dawn of a new era.

On alabama and the fight for dignity

What I'm about to say is probably gonna be taken with some controversy, and people will likely be upset at some of the things I offer here. But dammit I want to believe that things can change, so feel free to disagree or agree with it.

I feel like we as the fanbase should be in full force when game time rolls around. It needs to be like the Tennessee pregame. Whether we win or lose, get stomped or we do the stomping to ourselves, we owe it to the team to show out, even if they haven't necessarily. We at least owe it to stuts and bowman and downs, who have played their asses off this whole year of suck. And i get that this team has underperformed, and I can already hear a lot of people saying why should we care about these young adults making millions to not play, and I hear that. Personally, I'd love to have a couple thousand dollars to ride the bench. But at the end of the day, we love sooner football, we waited all off-season for this year, for this team, to watch the illustrious Oklahoma go to war in the sec. And it hasn't been good. It's been downright embarrassing. But it's still our team, and I will be at the game right alongside them.

Doesn't make this season any less frustrating. Doesn't make the offensive ineptitude any more acceptable. But there's still a season to play for, there's still players who care, there's still hope for this teams season. Imagine how much worse we'd be if toasted brisket boy was still managing the program. We wouldn't have a defense to keep us in any game this year except maybe temple and Maine. We'd lose that Houston game for sure. As a fanbase, I'm inviting all of us to show out, despite how bad its been. We owe it to the players that care. And frankly, I need some positivity around here. Imagine we end 6-6 or EVEN 7-5. That'd be pretty sick in my book. And add on top of that herbie and fowler commenting on how loud the fans are? That'd help bring a glimmer of hope to this barren and forgetful mess.

Just some thoughts. I hope to see a packed house ready to cheer on this terrible team. Feel free to disagree, I'm not saying you have to like what I'm saying, but it is an invitation to show up and show out, and maybe, by some miracle, we can be a part of something special.

#Booma

BB Haters…

Go listen to Ted & Gabe’s podcast with Dusty on. Dusty says that Bill is the best o-line coach in all of football, and other “in-the-know” people believe that as well. Gives an interesting perspective as to why o-line may be struggling, and it may not be related to Bill at all. Good listen by three guys that love and bled for OU. BOOMER!

Football How kicker Zach Schmit found confidence to 'swing freely'

Zach discussed pretty heavily his struggles the past two years and how he found his way back.

Football Oklahoma Drill: Brent Venables Future + QB Issues (with Full AI Summary)

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The Oklahoma Sooners have found themselves entrenched in a season of uncertainty and challenges, as they face the daunting task of securing bowl eligibility amidst a tumultuous year. As the team stands 5-5, with a disheartening 1-5 record in SEC play, questions loom large over the future of head coach Brent Venables and the direction of the program.

The Oklahoma football landscape is rife with questions, from the frustrated fans to the dedicated donors whose support carries more weight. Jesse Crittenden and Bryan Clinton dive deep into the thorny path that the Sooners face. Oklahoma's recent loss to Missouri, a game that should have been a stepping stone toward stabilizing their season with bowl eligibility, instead amplified concerns about consistency and leadership. The Sooners held a seven-point lead with just minutes remaining, only to see it slip away — a gut-wrenching pattern that's become familiar.
The Sooners' turnovers and offensive inconsistency have long plagued them, and Venables acknowledges the sting of self-inflicted wounds. Fans and insiders alike see a program searching for answers, grappling with turnovers and inefficiency on offense, including a particularly poor performance from quarterback Jackson Arnold.

The Venables Question​

A major talking point is the tenure and future of Coach Brent Venables. Despite a record that has not lived up to expectations, Venables is buoyed by support from key figures such as OU President Joseph Harroz and Athletic Director Joe Castiglione, who both express unwavering belief in Venables' leadership. However, they stop short of guaranteeing his return in 2025, leaving the door open for evaluation.
The decision to extend Venables before joining the SEC adds complexity, as questions arise about the wisdom of such a move amid the current turmoil. As the Sooners face powerhouse opponents like Alabama and LSU next, the performance and player response could influence the narrative around Venables’ future.

Quarterback Conundrum​

A significant aspect of the current struggles lies in the quarterback position. Jackson Arnold, despite high hopes, faced difficulties in his first road start against Missouri, sparking debate on whether a change is needed. The possibility of starting Casey Thompson, a veteran who can bring stability, is brought to the table. The decision hinges on long-term strategy and confidence in the young quarterbacks' ability to bounce back and develop.

Spanning the Roster​

Despite the tumultuous season, bright spots exist. Xavier Robinson, a freshman running back, has shown noteworthy tenacity and skill, suggesting a promising future if integrated effectively into the rotation. The coaching staff faces the task of properly utilizing emerging talent amidst ongoing competition.
The Sooners’ defensive efforts have not gone unnoticed either, with players like Danny Stutsman and Billy Bowman often stepping up, though consistency remains elusive. Defensive strongholds have occasionally crumbled under pressure, revealing areas needing fortification.

What Fans Want​

As the season approaches its end, fans and analysts are eager to see how the team responds under pressure. Signs of internal buy-in and the emergence of leadership within the young roster will be crucial indicators of the program's health and direction.
Oklahoma’s path forward requires not just strategic fixes but a reaffirmation of their competitive spirit. Jesse Crittenden and Bryan Clinton emphasize the importance of seeing the team fight hard in the coming games, regardless of the scoreboard.

Looking Ahead​

As Oklahoma prepares to face formidable foes in Alabama and LSU, the spotlight remains firmly on how the team and coaching staff will address lingering challenges. These matchups offer not only a chance for redemption but also a critical evaluation period for Venables and his squad.
In the fast-paced, often unforgiving world of college football, the Sooners strive to reassert their identity, seeking both immediate victories and long-term stability. The road ahead is fraught with challenges, but every player and every play offers a chance to turn the tide.
The Sooners must rally, rediscovering the grit and resilience that have long defined the program's storied legacy. As the season draws to a close, fans watch closely, hopeful for a renewed Oklahoma spirit that can weather any storm.

The myth that BV was handed a mess

defensive starters that were all either Grinches players or his commits / evaluations

Downs /all Big 12
Stutsman/ all American
Lewis
Woody
Bowman/all American
Spears Jennings
Gentry Williams ( if healthy )

Year 3 and BV is still starting majority of Grinches players /commits

Past starters
Redmon
White

1)Grinch was a very good talent evaluator / bad coach
2) subpar defensive hires by BV = delayed development /bad evaluations
BV should definitely have more of HIS recruits starting by year 3. The strength of this program yet oddly majority of them aren’t his players .just shows how bad Grinch was as a DC and how BV has had a bunch of misses

Offense
previous staffs players and recruits

Mims/2nd round
Anderson/freshman all American
Wease
Willis/all big 12
Stoops/all big 12
Gray /all big 12
farooq
Barnes
Sawchuk
Harrison/1st round
Guyton /1st round
Ryam /all big 12
Morris/3rd round

A TON of offensive talent that he inherited .
Even with a exodus of players leaving with Lincoln , he still left a bunch of nfl talent in Oklahoma .

Now that the previous staff left so has the talent /evaluations on that side of the ball

What did BV really bring to this program other than the best DT coach in America and much more sound defensive schemes?

You can say better recruiting classes on paper but in reality he had MORE talent in 2022 the day he walked in than what we have right now across the board
I will say alot of that is because of developmental
Issues on BOTH sides of the ball .
QB
WR
RB
TE
CB
DE

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