Will Charlie even make it to Thanksgiving? Kansas wins 24-21.

[Plainosooner]

Horns turn it over in OT. KU wins it on senior night 24-21.

That interception was their sixth turnover of the game. Apparently, it's hard to beat even Kansas with six turnovers.

 

[Patriotgame]

Now they have to beat TCU to even be bowl eligible...not an easy task

 

[PryorFan]

Thought Charlie would be a slam dunk with the Horns but nothing is 100% certain.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

LMAO...

 

[trademarcs]

Couldn't happen to a better fan base. The psychiatrist offices will be overwhelmed next week.

 

[WP76]

In the long term, this is bad because Texas will have to get a real coach. OTOH losing to Kansas is freakin' hilarious and something those smug, condescending, arrogant [expletives] will never be able to live down.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Is there any case the Horns can make to give Strong another year?

 

[soonerdave]

Is there any case the Horns can make to give Strong another year?

Yes. If any of the boosters prefer the program to remain irrelevant.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Is there any case the Horns can make to give Strong another year?

Not according to Charlie, who said 5-7 don't cut it, neither does 7-5...

 

[Plainosooner]

Couldn't happen to a better fan base. The psychiatrist offices will be overwhelmed next week.

My guess is that their team is upset, but their fans are mostly happy. Most want Charlie gone.

But their players will do something like what the election protesters are doing.

Number 90 already did. They almost had to use a tranquilizer gun to get him to go to the dressing room.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

My guess is that their team is upset, but their fans are mostly happy. Most want Charlie gone.

But their players will do something like what the election protesters are doing.

The whorn fans I talk to want him gone, say that the race card will be played regardless...

 

[soonerdave]

The whorn fans I talk to want him gone, say that the race card will be played regardless...

White coaches shouldn't lose to Kansas.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

White coaches shouldn't lose to Kansas.

Few FBS teams should lose to Kansas... texASS definitely did though, and two friends are livid...

 

[ESPiam]

Charlie is out...maybe Kingsbury too. The Les Miles lottery just got new players

 

[Oklabama]

ABC just flashed that Charlie's buyout is $10M. "Don't throw me in that briar patch."

 

[WP76]

Kansas hasn't won a conference game essentially during Obama's current term...until the Horns showed up. Too funny.

 

[Plainosooner]

I'll bet we don't see this game on LHN for a while.

I missed the two crucial plays. I saw Texas running the clock down with a minute life, and having fourth and five in the Jayhawk 35 and taking a time out. I figured it was over. Switched over to UDub and Colorado. Then during a time out, saw that they were 21-21 and headed to OT.

Saw the coin flip and Kansas won the toss. Switched for a play or two on FOX then back to ABC and Kansas already had the ball and the score was tied.

How did the Jayhawks tie it up. And how did Texas turn in over in OT. When I switched back, Charlie had this "I have diarrhea" look on his face and KU had first and ten on the 25. THen the Hawks ran it straight ahead about six times and kicked the winning field goal on third down. And celebrated like they hadn't won a conference game since Romney was a presidential candidate.

 

[KCtornado]

A heaping pile of bevo dung could have called plays better. The man is just a mental midget....and soon to be rich one and living luxury life. Meanwhile shorthorns dumpster is a phosphorus blaze being put out by tears from shorthorn "fans". I could not be happier tonight.

 

[Medic007]

Horns whiffed on the 4th and 5. Uterus ended up getting a roughing the passer/targeting call putting Kansas in FG range.

On the Horns first play of overtime, Garrett Gilbert 2.0 threw an interception.

 

[Senior Sooner]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...ng-is-gone/ar-AAkvtyf?li=BBnba9I&ocid=DELLDHP

 

[Plainosooner]

And I'm shocked. The loss is on LHN as we speak. I guess they got complaints about showing Vince over USC or the ND win from September, again.

If you want the fun of watching the meltdown, they're up 21-18 with 4:00 left and Foreman just lost his second fumble.

 

[iasooner1]

Be careful what you wish for: Kansas may be the next "team on the rise"...

 

[DubaiSooner]

I suspect (could be wrong) that the problem at Texas is much bigger than any coach can overcome. The longhorn system is broken with so many boosters having a voice in what happens across the board within the athletic department. Any texass coach has so much more than his football team to deal with at any given moment. It makes one ponder the thought of any coach being successful under the circumstances. I am taking bets on the life expectancy of Tom Herman in Austin.

 

[Plainosooner]

I suspect boosters are less a problem than LHN. They require a lot of time during the season that is unproductive in producing the next win. It's a monumental aid in recruiting, and Charlie has taken advantage of that. But dang. We heard the Horns had a great recruiting class, before four Baylor last minute defectors joined them. And you don't see much contributions from all these studs.

The big curiosity to me, if burnt orange does win the "Herman Sweepstakes," is how Buechele does in his offense. Herman has built his offense around athletic quarterbacks who can hurt the defense running it. It opens up everything else. Buechele ain't that guy. Texas has been so inconsistent at quarterback since Colt McCoy left, and while Buechele has shown a lot of rookie mistakes, he appeared to be the guy to change that. Will he just be a stand in until Herman gets "his guy?"

One thing I believe. Texas will have a two headed monster at running back next season, if 25 and 33 are both healthy. They'll have a bunch of young talent to play defense. They still have a chance to be scary good, if they coaching gets upgraded. But how long would Herman last if he lost to the equivalent of SMU while wearing a burnt orange coaching shirt?

And I wonder if Herman doesn't end up at LSU anyway. Today might have made that more likely. Every talking head I heard today was really critical of the fourth and goal call on the last play of the Florida game. I thought it was blatant second guessing, but these days, apparently knowing anything about anything is less important than being as bombastic as possible. Orgeron seems like a good fit for Baton Rouge, but my suspicion is that LSU brings in whomever the very best available coaching name might be. After Thursday night, that might be the Houston lame duck.

I still think it's a totally different task to pull off even two top five upsets in a season, than to play in a conference where pretty good, can get you a 6-6 season with only a small amount of bad luck. I'm not sure Herman is all that. But I guess we'll get a chance to see, starting in August 2017 at someplace that has great instate recruiting advantages.

 

[OUSOONER67]

Meanwhile in asstin, they are bringing out puppies and ponies for the students to pet and finals are cancelled. If Strong is not fired Matthew McConaughey has threatened to move to Canada.

 

[Plainosooner]

Meanwhile in asstin, they are bringing out puppies and ponies for the students to pet and finals are cancelled. If Strong is not fired Matthew McConaughey has threatened to move to Canada.

I thought Matthew was already there after the presidential election. And if not, UT's failure to beat Kansas is a Karma retaliation for his reneging on his promise to do so.

 

[BillyRay]

I suspect (could be wrong) that the problem at Texas is much bigger than any coach can overcome. The longhorn system is broken with so many boosters having a voice in what happens across the board within the athletic department. Any texass coach has so much more than his football team to deal with at any given moment. It makes one ponder the thought of any coach being successful under the circumstances. I am taking bets on the life expectancy of Tom Herman in Austin.

Absolutely this. Strong was never really wanted by anyone down at Texass, outside of DeLoss Dodds who hired him. Once Dodds left, I doubt Strong has gotten much support down there. I have no doubt many of the big dogs down at Texas have set the foundation for Strong to fail so they could fire him and go get someone that THEY wanted.

 

[Oklabama]

Absolutely this. Strong was never really wanted by anyone down at Texass, outside of DeLoss Dodds who hired him. Once Dodds left, I doubt Strong has gotten much support down there. I have no doubt many of the big dogs down at Texas have set the foundation for Strong to fail so they could fire him and go get someone that THEY wanted.

Yep. That's what can happen when you accept $3m for women's softball followed up with the largest single donation in UT history ($50m) from a guy that has owned multiple sports franchises....Red McCombs. You gotta know you're going to have a lot of pressure put on you to make him happy. Kinda like that guy Mike Gundy has to deal with. Fortunately, OU apparently doesn't have a single booster that is so much involved with the program. OU have big boosters but they aren't as public about their wishes as Boone and Red McCombs.

 

[Plainosooner]

I thought it was Patterson who hired him.

 

[Oklabama]

I thought it was Patterson who hired him.

You are correct. Patterson was the newly named AD and as McCombs put it "punched me in the face" with the Strong hire.

 

[BillyRay]

I thought it was Patterson who hired him.

Yup you are correct. I stand corrected.

Even so, Patterson wasn't exactly beloved by the big dogs down in Austin either. Hence the reason he didn't even last 2 years. And once he got fired, then Charlie has been on his own since then. Pathetic too cuz I do think Strong is a very good coach. He will land someplace after he leaves Texas and I'm sure he will have a pretty solid coaching career.

 

[Mister Moses]

Foreman should go to the NFL. I imagine he will. The way he's been used as the only weapon they have. He is wore out from this season. Loyd of Londons policy? He should go for his dreams not 51 carries against Kansas and lose. He's not a good coach at a major program. He can't be their friends he's the coach. He's hired so many coaches in 3 yrs it's Insane. None of the coaches padded their resumes under Charlie. They were scapegoats out of desperation. Mack won 9 games his final year and nearly the conference title or share of it. I feel sorry for my Longhorn buddies about the state of the program. Charlie 15 million for 3 years and 10 million buyout for the 3 seasons. Herman is a much better coach supposedly. Ed Oliver took over the last game with Louisville and mandhandled them. I'm glad we have Stoops and I'm happy with Oklahoma.

 

[PryorFan]

Charlie Strong brought a strong resume with him and probably was never given a chance to succeed. Horns don't deserve Charlie Strong. Paying for what they have done to the Big XII. Too many chiefs and not enough indians.

 

[Oklabama]

Charlie Strong brought a strong resume with him and probably was never given a chance to succeed. Horns don't deserve Charlie Strong. Paying for what they have done to the Big XII. Too many chiefs and not enough indians.

I don't know how you think that Strong wasn't given plenty opportunity to succeed. The man had only won 16 games in three seasons. That's unacceptable for a program like Texas, and it damn sure wouldn't be acceptable at OU.