I know we are in a playoff. My question is what's the best team we have played when an NC is on the line at the end of the year or bowl games?
I personally think this is the best. Clemson.
I personally think this is the best. Clemson.
What's the best team we ever played against for the NC?
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I think there are several teams.
Kentucky under Paul Bear Bryant beat us in our bowl game ( we still won the champ though)
We beat Maryland in the bowl the year they won the champ.
Michigan was dang good where we won 14-6 or something
But no question Clemson is going to be a tight fit!
Well I was thinking Florida State. Senior or Plaino may have some different answers...
BTW, I think it was Penn State...14-6.
Is this a trick question or did I misread it? Anyone remember USC after the 2004 season? Does that game not count because of NCAA violations?
No, that game doesn't count because we erased it from our memories.
55-19 will always be etched in my mind. I was there.
And 14-6 was against Michigan The score of the PSU game was 25-10
LSU was 2004 season. And no. They were probably the weakest of the teams we played. We got beat only because Jason was not anywhere healthy. And LSU was playing a "home" game.
Soonersincefitty
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Of all the W games I always thought Michigan was as complete of a team that the Sooners have conquered.
Of all the L games USC, 2004 was well, forget about it.
Of all the L games USC, 2004 was well, forget about it.
I remember the Michigan game. It was a typical Bo Big 10 grind it out team with a very good freshman QB and an excellent D. Bore no resemblance to USC 2004 with Lendale White, Bush and Leinhart. One of the best college teams I ever saw. In the same group with OU '56.
How about Miami in the 1988 Orange Bowl? They were really good. USC was darn good as well.
That is a good choice as well. But again we were playing a team on their home turf.
Soonersincefitty
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Well, the OP was NC games, but if you want to extend the thread to others I'll have to go into the archives a bit...
Definitely 2004 USC, but not a single mention of the 2008 Gators?
Tim Tebow is arguably the best college QB ever behind VY. Percy Harvin. Brandon Spikes. Chris Rainey and throw in some OL guys, and they practically had their own NFL roster.
Tim Tebow is arguably the best college QB ever behind VY. Percy Harvin. Brandon Spikes. Chris Rainey and throw in some OL guys, and they practically had their own NFL roster.
Soonersincefitty
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Well, I don't know about the others...still a little pissy about that one considering we played that without Demarco Murray.
Who could've easily covered the ten points we lost by...IMO
Well, the OP was NC games, but if you want to extend the thread to others I'll have to go into the archives a bit...
One, I agree with you about OU/Florida game. With Demarco we win
But the game mentioned was OU/Miami in 88. Didn't Miami win it the champ that year?
Soonersincefitty
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Not sure, but FWIW, I thought the 1987 OU team was one of Barrys best. They were bad to the bone. (except for the lone loss to yes...Miami)
The '88 game was #1 OU vs #2 Miami. We had beaten #1 Nebraska in Lincoln prior to the Orange Bowl. Tough game. Charles Thompson was making I think his second start and broke his leg on the last play of the game. Not only was it a home game for Miami, but no Jamelle Holieway.
Florida State in 2000 gets my vote, at least for now, but the road ahead in this year's playoff has to be the toughest task in winning a national championship in OU history.
Michigan finished 8-2-2.....7-1-0 in Big Ten play....the year OU beat them in 1975. They were good, but the Sooners did not play the best opponent they could have through no fault of their own. The two ties by Michigan were at home to Stanford (6-4-1) and Baylor (3-6-2)....then a loss to Ohio State at home to finish the regular season, 21-14. OU was enabled to win the championship when UCLA stunned Ohio State in the Rose Bowl earlier in the day, 23-10.
I believe LSU was the 2003 season. USC was the 2004 season. And I agree with the rest of your post.
Of the national championship games in which OU played, but did not win I would say:
USC in 2004.
Nebraska in 1971.
Florida in 2008.
Miami in 1987....for three straight years Miami beat arguably the best three teams in Oklahoma history (1985,1986,1987) and my perception was that in each game the better team won and that the era of the wishbone had had its day in the sun because of Miami's great NFL caliber defenses that contained the great OU wishbone.
And Texas in 1963. Even though it was early in the season, that Texas team was impressive and very focused as both OU and Navy (with Staubach) in the Cotton Bowl discovered.
55-19. I too was there and that USC team was LOADED with guys who went on to the NFL. Probably had more talent on both sides of the ball than any other team we played in any MNC game.
My order:
USC 2004.
Miami 1986-88.
Nebraska 1971.
Michigan 1975 ('74 season)
Florida 2008.
LSU 2003.
FSU 2001.
Penn State 1986.
Where will this Clemson team rank? I'm guessing somewhere between LSU 2003 and Michigan 1975. I don't think they are as good as Nebraska 1971, but they could play that well - for one night anyway.
USC 2004.
Miami 1986-88.
Nebraska 1971.
Michigan 1975 ('74 season)
Florida 2008.
LSU 2003.
FSU 2001.
Penn State 1986.
Where will this Clemson team rank? I'm guessing somewhere between LSU 2003 and Michigan 1975. I don't think they are as good as Nebraska 1971, but they could play that well - for one night anyway.
I'll wait for Senior's assessment as none of Bud's teams have been given their due in this discussion...
Thompson played vs. the Canes in the '88 OB. It was the following year (the 7-3 loss in the rain to NU in Norman) that he broke his leg, which forced a one legged Holieway into action vs. Clemson.
Thanks for setting that straight. I was 12 at the time.
1954 Orange Bowl. 4th ranked OU beat everybody's number 1 Maryland 7-0. Former OU coach Jim Tatum said his Maryland team was the greatest he had ever coached. It was the first meeting of the Orange Bowls new ACC-Big 7 tie-in.
I mentioned this game. Although OU won the bowl the Terrapins were already crowned national champs.
And I will have to look this up. But the big 8 conf had a rule during those days that a team could not go to back to back bowl games.
Or some such non sense like that
Not Senior, but from what I read and saw in the 1959 Orange Bowl vs Syracuse, Wilkinson's teams played some fine teams in bowl competition....
North Carolina (9-1-1) in 1948.....winning 14-6.
LSU (8-3) in 1949 season.....winning 35-0.
Kentucky (11-1) in 1950 season, losing 13-7....but still gaining a national championship.
Maryland (10-1) in 1953 season....winning 7-0.
Maryland (10-1) in 1955 season....winning 20-6.
Syracuse (8-2) in 1958 season.....winning 21-6.
Alabama (10-1) in 1962 season. Namath and Lee Roy Jordan (31 total tackles) were too much for OU, winning 17-0. Alabama had 4 shutouts that season and never yielded more than 7 points in any game....the lone loss was to Georgia Tech 7-6. The total points scored on Alabama in 1962 was 39 points. I believe this Alabama team was the toughest team Wilkinson faced in the bowls.
Duke (6-3-2) was OU's 1957 season Orange Bowl opponent and OU won 48-21. Duke played a more competitive game than the score indicated....but it was clearly Wilkinson's weakest bowl opponent.
Strangely, the 1952 Sooners which some have said was Wilkinson's best team as they played six teams with winning records, did not go to a bowl. That team scored 407 points....but tied Colorado (6-2-2) in the opening game at 21-21 and lost to Notre Dame (7-2-1) 27-21 in South Bend.
Clemson fans reading this thread...
That's why I posted it in the first place. I know it has nothing to do with this year, but they have to be impressed with our overall record and maybe shut their traps about last years game.............because we have a lot of past games to brag on.
Im not sure why we are bagging on Clemson and their fans. They are a wonderful team. They do have a MNC.
Although I have never been there but I love this little factoid:
(A clemson fan will have to correct me if I get anything wrong)
When did the gv't start printing $2 bills? I know I read where Clemson fans would take them on their bowl trips to impress the local merchants and bowl officials about how well they traveled and spend.
We'll beat Clemson by at least 2 touchdowns.
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