What IF Game

[soonersoldier]

Let's take a look into the future, a future with OU winning out. Without getting too detailed in the margin of wins against BU/TCU would OU make the final 4? I understand two possibly 3 wins against top ten teams is strong but is the loss to Texas too much to overcome? Again I am not predicting or trying to jinx just interested in your point of view.

 

[AbsoluteZer0]

I think we do make the final four if we run the table from here on out. The wins against Baylor, TCU and OK State would be a lot to overlook. It wouldn't be #1 I don't think, but I would think we get there. Hooah.

 

[soonersoldier]

I think we do make the final four if we run the table from here on out. The wins against Baylor, TCU and OK State would be a lot to overlook. It wouldn't be #1 I don't think, but I would think we get there. Hooah.

That would be stout. I would worry about a 1 loss Alabama team lurking around but like you said beating 3 highly ranked teams to finish would be stout. Please please , do not let a lack of a big 12 championship game hold this conference back again.

 

[AbsoluteZer0]

That would be stout. I would worry about a 1 loss Alabama team lurking around but like you said beating 3 highly ranked teams to finish would be stout. Please please , do not let a lack of a big 12 championship game hold this conference back again.

I totally agree, if one team can win out, then they have a great shot. If we all beat each other...well...that isn't looking so good. Especially for us already with one loss and the rest having none. I think the best we could hope for is San Antonio with another loss which I would be thrilled with since it's so close...but don't mistake my enthusiasm for the Alamo bowl for enthusiasm for getting to the NC.

I do think we have the pieces...we have more talent than we did in 2000...it's time to light the fuse and come out swinging for the fences. We have nothing to lose and those other teams have everything to lose.

 

[Yankees03]

Zero talent than we had in 2000? I disagree. Maybe at the rb position but that's about it

 

[AbsoluteZer0]

Zero talent than we had in 2000? I disagree. Maybe at the rb position but that's about it

You think we only have more talent at RB? You think we don't have more talent at WR? You think we don't have more talent on defense? I was a complete believer in 2000, but that was completely magical. Those guys played as if they were trying to save the world. Tell me why it is you think that this team doesn't have more talent.

 

[Schoonerman]

I don't see a one-loss Big 12 team getting in. Here's how I see it falling into place right now:

Clemson goes undefeated in the ACC and they're in.
The SEC will have an undefeated LSU or a one-loss Bama getting in.
tOSU or MSU will represent the B1G.
Notre Dame.

 

[soonersoldier]

2000 represents a destined team to me. They appeared to be tight, played position perfect and had a great, hungry coaching staff. This team appears to have NFL talent littered throughout the roster with many of them being young and the opportunity to improve, IMO

 

[AbsoluteZer0]

2000 represents a destined team to me. They appeared to be tight, played position perfect and had a great, hungry coaching staff. This team appears to have NFL talent littered throughout the roster with many of them being young and the opportunity to improve, IMO

You and I my friend are on the same page. It's about coaching. The 2000 team walked into every game as if there wasn't another moment in life that meant more than this one. It was the gunfight at the OK corral and someone had to die.

This team needs to have the same focus. If it does, we kick the sphincter out of the mouth of the opponent, if it doesn't we sleep walk through another loss like we did with TX. I really believe that there are no excuses. We have everything we need in place and if used properly, it is a machine that cannot be stopped.

 

[soonersoldier]

I don't see a one-loss Big 12 team getting in. Here's how I see it falling into place right now:

Clemson goes undefeated in the ACC and they're in.
The SEC will have an undefeated LSU or a one-loss Bama getting in.
tOSU or MSU will represent the B1G.
Notre Dame.

noooo! Anybody but the domers! Looking at current top 10 you could be right

 

[AbsoluteZer0]

noooo! Anybody but the domers! Looking at current top 10 you could be right

The Domers will lose again at Stanford.

 

[K2C Sooner]

noooo! Anybody but the domers! Looking at current top 10 you could be right

Domers already lost to Clemson with Stanford looming. If any teams get in from the same conference, it will be Bama and LSU......JMO

 

[soonersoldier]

Domers already lost to Clemson with Stanford looming. If any teams get in from the same conference, it will be Bama and LSU......JMO

Can florida still sneak into that SEC picture? And are we saying the winner of the Stanford/domers game is out even if both are one loss teams entering the game against each other?

 

[AbsoluteZer0]

Can florida still sneak into that SEC picture? And are we saying the winner of the Stanford/domers game is out even if both are one loss teams entering the game against each other?

If FL sneaks into the picture that would mean an SEC championship which I doubt highly. Stanford is already 6-1 with possible losses looming. If they beat the Catholics, both are done I think unless Stanford runs the table then it is questionable if OU also runs the table due to the quality of wins.

One of the SEC teams will likely get in. Be that LSU with one loss and a win over the East or an Alabama team that wins the SEC. I don't see an East team locking up the SEC, but if the did...it would be all the better.

 

[Yankees03]

I think the 2000 team had more talent in the secondary, linebackers and offensive line. Mayfield and heupel are pretty comparable. Man I'm old I can't hardly remember who was on the dline in 2000? Lol. Someone help me out. As for wr, we have Shepard who is a stud but alot of unproven guys after that.

 

[soonersoldier]

I think the 2000 team had more talent in the secondary, linebackers and offensive line. Mayfield and heupel are pretty comparable. Man I'm old I can't hardly remember who was on the dline in 2000? Lol. Someone help me out. As for wr, we have Shepard who is a stud but alot of unproven guys after that.

No question on the oline: 2000 team. The linebackers were great as well but in terms of talent I don't consider the current ones lesser. IMO the 2000 linebackers did not have to face the wide open offenses; the Spread offenses were just taking off. I think you are right about the dline: current team more talented...

 

[AbsoluteZer0]

I think the 2000 team had more talent in the secondary, linebackers and offensive line. Mayfield and heupel are pretty comparable. Man I'm old I can't hardly remember who was on the dline in 2000? Lol. Someone help me out. As for wr, we have Shepard who is a stud but alot of unproven guys after that.

I think the talent is actually better on this team. I think the 2000 team was a lot more hungry and salty. I think Stoops is the key here...he wanted it. He made them want it. It was magical and I remember this feeling of inevitability. I lived in Mississippi at the time and I wish I could bring my friends on here to tell you how I felt.

I remember for the first time in years (mainly because I was overseas quite a lot and didn't have the opportunity) wearing OU gear all around the Jackson area and people asking me why? Why after Ole Miss beat you are you wearing that here? I said it's my home team and I remember telling them that they were going to win it all. I went to a halloween party in Jackson dressed in all OU gear and they said WTF are you doing? I said, I'm a national champion. No shit, that really happened. It was just the absolute Sooner Magic that I still can't explain.

We need that fire, that wanton "I don't give a damn about next week, I'm going to lay it out on the line right here, right now" mentality.

 

[Yankees03]

Man sometimes I watch old YouTube clips of 2000 and I get chills. The passion and fire that team played with was just awesome. I didn't get to attend the ou-nu game but I remember just jumping up and down screaming as heupel threw that pass to tie it up at 14 all. Man what a great season

 

[soonersoldier]

That month was epic! So many moments littered throughout the year which saves the undefeated season. The clutch calls and execution. I always remember the punter during the championship game on the bad snap; it was a microcosm of that team. No matter the situation they were prepared and made good football decisions. Dang great year!

 

[bcsoonerfan]

1. I don't see Clemson or Ohio State losing. That's 2 in.

2. We need a two loss SEC champ or 2 loss PAC champ.

3. TCU has lost the favor of the media and Baylor losing Russell is a ready made excuse.

I think a 1 loss Big XII is, again, on the outside looking in.

 

[YourCrimsonNightmare]

If the Sooners win out, and that's a HUGE if, then the Sooners are in, period. It's not possible for the Big Ten to get two teams in because of remaining matchups, and the SEC is a mess that probably gets messier. Same for the Pac-12. Clemson's unbeaten, but when you look at their schedule, it's pretty weak. A 1-loss Clemson wouldn't rank above OU, period.

Notre Dame has one loss, but a very rough remaining schedule that I don't think can be conquered. Notre Dame is good, just not that good. Thus far their schedule has been soft, and they haven't been all that impressive in their wins. They would probably rank right with OU if both teams won out, but I think on second look that OU will win out on schedule strength.

It' my opinion that if the Sooners surprise by winning out, there's almost zero chance that they wouldn't be included in the top 4.

 

[YourCrimsonNightmare]

Ohio State has to win a home game against Michigan State and a road tilt the next weekend at Michigan. Then they have to win the CCG a week later.

Clemson has to win at 5-2 NC State, then beat a (probable) 7-1 FSU team. They then need to win 4 more games, including a CCG matchup with NC State, Pittsburgh or North Carolina.

We've seen unbeaten teams fall on their faces numerous times this season, and there's no indication that we've seen the last of it.

1. I don't see Clemson or Ohio State losing. That's 2 in. ...

 

[Plainosooner]

It is likely to dpend on what happens elsewhere. Michigan winning the BIG would help. LSU winning the SEC would likely help. Somebody beating Clemson might.

Non Major conference teams all getting a loss would help. It is really early, still. A lot of football left to be played.

 

[YourCrimsonNightmare]

The only unbeaten teams left that are not from the power 5 are Houston, Memphis and Temple from the AAC, and Toledo from the MAC. The Bigs have another 6, and the ACC and SEC the other 2.

 

[Plainosooner]

1. I don't see Clemson or Ohio State losing. That's 2 in.

I would be pretty surprised if both Ohio State and Clemson are still undefeated when bowl season starts. Out of Michigan, Michigan State and the CCG, somebody will get tOSU. My guess would be the Wolverines in Ann Arbor.

We have these same impressions every year, seven or eight games in, and then come surprises.

 

[Sooners83]

I would be pretty surprised if both Ohio State and Clemson are still undefeated when bowl season starts. Out of Michigan, Michigan State and the CCG, somebody will get tOSU. My guess would be the Wolverines in Ann Arbor.

We have these same impressions every year, seven or eight games in, and then come surprises.

yeah I just looked at the current top 10 teams schedules....November will be fun to watch. It may end up to be one where we really do need a 8 team playoff as I am sure it will end up with a serious bitch session when all is said and done. We just need to win out in order to be in line for the complaint department.

 

[Soonerborn59]

If OU does run the table they are going to need some help from other conferences. Like it or not the B12 almost has to have an undefeated tem to get a lock into the playoffs. Either that or another conference champ has to have 2 losses while OU or whoever finishes with one loss.

Now if Texas is able to finish 7-5 or even 8-4 the I think the loss to Texas becomes an acceptable loss to the committee. So I guess you could say by OU winning out their playoff fates are tied into Texas and at least one of the other P5 conference champ having 2 losses. Then you also have to add in ND if they win out so basically OU needs the Irish to lose again also ( Go Stanford ! ) .

Its acheivable but I fear the lack of a CCG will cost OU if ND and the other 4 P5 teams only have 1 loss. I dislike ND and know they dont play in a conference but if it comes down to the Irish and OU it will be ND who gets the spot.

If OU continues to play hungry they have a great shot of at least putting themselves in the conversation.