what do you think of Clemson's quarterback?
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Soonersincefitty
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What, are you nuts asking me that?
My expectations of this team are much higher than yours.
They always have been.
What's galling is how you celebrate when they don't do well...for that, you are loathed.
This isn't that complicated.
Grab a clue guy...
What makes you have any indication that my expectations are lower for this team than yours?? I mean...talk about grabbing a clue.....bro.....
And name an occasion when I "celebrated" when OU didn't do well. Good grief man it's amazing you actually believe the crap you post...
Soonersincefitty
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No, I'm done with you...anyone that's been here for a while knows your game.
Sorry, the jigs up for you.
My game for what?? You're the one who decided to respond to my post in this thread. I asked two questions of you in my last post in regards to your ignorant accusations...and of course you chose not to answer them in epic fitty fashion.
Like I said....it's amazing the thought process that must go through your mind that leads you to conclusions to where you actually believe the crap that you post.
I'm not man. It's sad actually. The poor guys life revolves around this message board. He is literally on the same level as Obama...he just spews out crap and he actually believes it....
With all due respect, they don't have, the better QB. How do you like your Crow served?
I didn't say he was better. I just said that Baker might not be better. I think they're pretty equal. Baker has more experience. I think Watson is a little bigger and stronger. They both break tackles and make lemonade plays.
Randy, Bakers legs and heart and total team support makes any QB look like a Joke. OU will hammer Clemson. something they should have done last year. Also OU has Bob Stoops, he will have this team chomping at the bits. OU's talent and coaches has Clemson out numbered. Their QB will be on his back side a lot.
for 64 years, though I wasn't called that at OU much outside of a classroom and by my old friends from Tulsa.
I never knew Plaino's name was Randy
So how whats that suppose to mean? dude stay on topic. and stop the crap. or see you later by.
Nobody is doubting or downplaying Baker's heart and total team support. But don't act like any other QB "looks like a joke" compared to Baker. Watson has some legs as well. Mike has a huge task in figuring out how to either stop, or slow this guy down. And it's irrelevant to determine which QB is better simply by who wins the game. Anyone who knows anything about football knows it's a team sport. I certainly hope Bob and this team are taking Clemson and Watson more seriously than you appear to be.
26/42 (62%) 289yds passing
131 yards rushing (5.5ypc)
Ya...that clearly sounds like "average at best" stats to me when playing against a top 10 team...
I saw about six Clemson games and Watson has nearly identical stats as Baker for the season regarding yards passing, TDs and rushing yards. And he's in the top five of Heisman voters, just like Baker. I'd say he's much better than average.
Sooners lost last year because our offense was in shambles. No QB, no WRs (Shepard was out last half of the season and was not near 100%) and an OC's game plan that my non-football wife could read. The defense never had a chance to help out with all the turnovers and 3 and outs. The defense will be immensely better this go around.
You can build up Watson all you want (he'll make some plays), but I like Baker Mayfield, Perine, Mixon and Shepard. Clemson hasn't even come close to facing the skills these guys bring to field. Good luck Clemson, better score more than 50 and good luck with that against our D!
OU 48 - Clemson 31
You can build up Watson all you want (he'll make some plays), but I like Baker Mayfield, Perine, Mixon and Shepard. Clemson hasn't even come close to facing the skills these guys bring to field. Good luck Clemson, better score more than 50 and good luck with that against our D!
OU 48 - Clemson 31
I say shut his running plays, make him pass. Lots, lots of pressure and sacks. OR for Pete sakes just keep the offensive off the field.
mike what the heck are you talking about? I just made a comment and no offense was intended. Quit trying to create drama
26/42 (62%) 289yds passing
131 yards rushing (5.5ypc)
Ya...that clearly sounds like "average at best" stats to me when playing against a top 10 team...
Do you think that UNC is an honest Top 10 team? They benefited from the ACC while everyone else in the country is busy beating each other up.
Same could be said about Baylor, TCU and OSU. Were they legitimately deserving of their ranking at the time OU played them since they were all rolling without their starting QBs??
NC went 11-2 this year. You can claim their schedule is junk because they played in the ACC. But that's the same approach fans of other programs use when talking down about the quality of the Big XII schedule for years.
Well, TCU, OkSt, and Baylor are 11, 13, and 18 this year respectively, so I don't think anyone is talking down about the XII this year. And they're only ranked that low, because they had to get steamrolled by OU. If we were still the crappy team we were last year, those three would all be Top 10 or thereabouts.
Depends on who Baylor has available to play, especially at qb.
Who is going to be the QB for Baylor?? If it's the same one that couldn't do squat against Texas, then I'm leaning towards UNC.
even with the momentum UNC had, they needed TD + 2pt conversion just to force overtime.
Im not going to get in depth in this Im just going to say we were a 5 loss team last year with TK leading the way. Clemson may not be the same team but neither are we and I feel we've improved substantially more. Weve prepared these last few games for running quarterbacks. It would be stupid to predict a blowout but I think we have this well in hand. I have faith in our team to execute their game plan, play disciplined football and prevail. Boomer Sooner!
It was not a blown call. Players on the kick off must be lined up inside the yard line numbers, which is 9 yards from the sideline. UNC had 2 players lined up within the 9 yd zone and by rule the penalty is offsides.
That's the thing...were all 3 of those teams deserving of the rankings they had when OU played them?? That goes hand in hand with your argument in whether UNC deserved the rankings they held when they played Clemson. Can't have it both ways. Yes, OU steamrolled them when they all 3 played with backup QBs. The OSU game, I don't think it would have made any difference. The Baylor game...if they had played Russell that game could have gone either way. The TCU game...if TCU had Boykin, that game is VERY likely a loss for OU. Cuz ironically enough...OUs offense was dead in the water with their backup QB, which is a similar situation TCU, Baylor and OSU all were dealing with when they played OU.
In the end, my original post that got us off on this tangent was about stats in a game that showed Watson is anything but "average at best". Do you really think "average at best" adequately describes a QB that led his team to an unbeaten record and is getting an invite to NYC for the Heisman Trophy??
But then it's a their 1st vs our 2nd scenario which you're trying to rule out. I think TCU and Boykin < OU and Mayfield.
And, of course Deshaun is better than average at best. He's really good with a huge upside. Do I think he's such a unique talent that he can win a NC as a freshman? Nope. He may be a VY prototype, but he's a VY fresh/soph prototype. He's not VY junior.
I'm not trying to rule that out at all. But fact is, OU DID benefit in those 3 games in having Baker against their #2s. But that's just the breaks when it comes to football. Plenty of years injuries worked against OU, so it's nice that they worked in OUs favor this year. But had Boykin not been hurt and Baker sat out that 2nd half, then OU would have been in big trouble. Let's just both be damn glad it didn't happen that way!! lol
Watson is a sophmore though. So I can certainly see him winning the Heisman as a soph since it wouldn't be the first time it's happened. Myself, I would like to see the Stanford guy win. But I'm afraid that it appears Henry is going to win it. Everything just seems to be leaning his way. Hopefully I will be wrong.
Was he their starter or something last year? I think I remember Clemson having to play OU in the bowl game with a backup QB last year. Not sure though.
I think UNC is a top 20 club, not top 10. I think FSU is top 10 all day. I think ND is top 10 most likely but not lower than 15
He went in the 3rd game of the season last year (FlaSt) and took it over; started all the games he wasn't hurt after that.
The only game he has started and lost was GaTech last year. He went out on the 3rd series of that game with his knee. At that point, Deshawn by himself had 70 yds of offense, GaTech had 7 yards of offense. They won the game due to 3 INTs by Cole Stout, the backup - 2 of which were Pick 6s.
Deshawn has never lost a game that he has started and finished.
IfBoth teams will be ready to play and it's going to be a hell of a game. I would not read too much into scores of past games, considering guys are beaten up and there's not 4 weeks in between.
Clemson is going to hear all month theyre getting no respect, and no one plays that up better than Dabo. I think this will be a 7-0 type game going in to the half, and a turnover deciding it in the 4th.
Clemson is going to hear all month theyre getting no respect, and no one plays that up better than Dabo. I think this will be a 7-0 type game going in to the half, and a turnover deciding it in the 4th.
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