what do you think of Clemson's quarterback?
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Soonersincefitty
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I think he'll look fantastic with Striker and Tapper draped all over him for 3.5 hours.
Agree with the above post. Hard to say how good he really is since Clemson played basically a 3 game schedule (FSU, N.D. and UNC) and the rest were glorified high school teams.
Especially with Baker being snubbed, OU defenders will likely tear him apart! I wonder if he'll be able to play the whole game!
There's a reason Deshaun Watson is a Heisman finalist, you guys. He'll be looking forward to playing the same D that our inept backup (C. Stoudt) had a field day with last year.
I think he comes out to put on a show, little or does he know, it will end quickly. No, he is good, just wished Baker could be a part of the Heisman deal. I feel payback in the air, from last year's beat down.
I know a lot of fans like to talk about payback and all that emotional stuff; but the fact is, if you are playing the game, whatever emotion you go in with is over in 5 minutes. You (as a player) become 100% focused on doing your job on that play and beating your guy. If you are thinking about last year, you are gonna lose.
But it only takes 5 minutes to break an opponent's spirit, so don't fool yourself into thinking emotion isn't a big deal.
Most blowouts between big teams aren't because one team is sooo much better than the other. It's because one either gave up or tried too hard to get back in the game and started making costly errors.
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Oh, you mean the D that everyone made look inept last year? And the D that no one has made look inept this year?
We had a nickel playing CB. We had a true freshman playing safety. We had Striker playing the wrong position. There's way too much difference between last year's defense and this year's defense besides names to even entertain such a comparison.
Soonersincefitty
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Yep, you never know how these things will go.
This is like a really big deal for both teams. No holds barred cage match if you will.
I think it's imperative that we answer them score for score initially. OU isn't famous for coming back from big deficits. Tennessee game notwithstanding.
I think Watson is a freakin stud. He has a command that you see from few freshmen quarterbacks. Might be the only time OU plays this season that we are not better at quarterback.
The difference in the game might be how many plays he makes with his legs. He is a special player. The factor in the good guys favor is that he is a freshman, and with a month to prepare Mike will have a bunch of exotic pressures, to challenge him mentally.
I know he has played in a couple of really big games in his life but this one will be the biggest. I believe he will also have a huge asset in that BV knows most of how Mike thinks. It will be an interesting chess game.
I believe that if North Carolina can come within a lousy offsides call of beating these guys, that OU will have a decent chance. I just hope that in the back of their minds that their players have the same attitude as the poster above, thinking that they are facing the same team.
Biggest keys to the game are what 19 and 23 do tackling him when they get there. If they do or do not get him down. He is a big strong guy. I figure Eric might have a little chip on his shoulder, given his omission from at least one all America team.
How well we tackle him behind the los will be the diifference in the game.
The difference in the game might be how many plays he makes with his legs. He is a special player. The factor in the good guys favor is that he is a freshman, and with a month to prepare Mike will have a bunch of exotic pressures, to challenge him mentally.
I know he has played in a couple of really big games in his life but this one will be the biggest. I believe he will also have a huge asset in that BV knows most of how Mike thinks. It will be an interesting chess game.
I believe that if North Carolina can come within a lousy offsides call of beating these guys, that OU will have a decent chance. I just hope that in the back of their minds that their players have the same attitude as the poster above, thinking that they are facing the same team.
Biggest keys to the game are what 19 and 23 do tackling him when they get there. If they do or do not get him down. He is a big strong guy. I figure Eric might have a little chip on his shoulder, given his omission from at least one all America team.
How well we tackle him behind the los will be the diifference in the game.
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I believe that if North Carolina can come within a lousy offsides call of beating these guys, that OU will have a decent chance. I just hope that in the back of their minds that their players have the same attitude as the poster above, thinking that they are facing the same team.
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Let's be clear: I know a lot of media has made a lot of the blown offsides call. There were actually MULTIPLE missed calls ON THAT PLAY, including a targeting call against the NC player who hit the Clemson player who initially touched the ball. Also, NC's offensive live was CONTINUOUSLY holding, to the point of actually TACKLING Shaq Lawson to prevent him to getting in their backfield.
Point is, the offsides call would have made NO difference in that game. Examine this: Do you actually believe, given that (1) Clemson had 620 yds offense, compared to 360 yds offense to NC; (2) NCs QB was only hitting about 33% of his passes, compared to Watson hitting 70% of his passes........
Given all that, do you REALLY believe that NC could have taken the ball down the field, scored a TD, gotten NO response from Clemson's offense, and won the game???
Very, VERY unlikely.
No single call made or broke this game. Clemson dominated, and they dominated FAR more than the score shows. NCs QB, who is quite good, was completely shaken and unproductive. Did you see his eyes? The guy was completely shaken. Their 5* RB, who is really good, was essentially a non-factor. There was NO way - even with the points that Clemson gave them off a stupid move by our punter - that NC was EVER going to win this game. It really wasn't close.
I believe that if North Carolina can come within a lousy offsides call of beating these guys, that OU will have a decent chance. I just hope that in the back of their minds that their players have the same attitude as the poster above, thinking that they are facing the same team.
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Let's be clear: I know a lot of media has made a lot of the blown offsides call. There were actually MULTIPLE missed calls ON THAT PLAY, including a targeting call against the NC player who hit the Clemson player who initially touched the ball. Also, NC's offensive live was CONTINUOUSLY holding, to the point of actually TACKLING Shaq Lawson to prevent him to getting in their backfield.
Point is, the offsides call would have made NO difference in that game. Examine this: Do you actually believe, given that (1) Clemson had 620 yds offense, compared to 360 yds offense to NC; (2) NCs QB was only hitting about 33% of his passes, compared to Watson hitting 70% of his passes........
Given all that, do you REALLY believe that NC could have taken the ball down the field, scored a TD, gotten NO response from Clemson's offense, and won the game???
Very, VERY unlikely.
No single call made or broke this game. Clemson dominated, and they dominated FAR more than the score shows. NCs QB, who is quite good, was completely shaken and unproductive. Did you see his eyes? The guy was completely shaken. Their 5* RB, who is really good, was essentially a non-factor. There was NO way - even with the points that Clemson gave them off a stupid move by our punter - that NC was EVER going to win this game. It really wasn't close.
Understood. The problem with Deshaun is he just doesn't seem to break, ever, no matter what is happening around him. All in all, should be a FANTASTIC game with two well-deserving teams. Can't wait.
The fact that Clemson's defense had spent most of the last ten minutes on the field would have made it much more likely than you suggest, that UNC would have gone to score. Not a certainty for sure, but they had most of the momentum.
I believe OU is ten points better than UNC at least. Apparently Clemson isn't. And the oddsmakers think that the Sooners are better. Not sure I agree, but I'm pretty sure we can play with the Tigers. The good thing, is that all the conjecture in the world won't matter; it's only what happens on game day. I promise you that OU will be the best team Clemson plays this season. And very likely, the last.
I saw the onside kick over and over again in slow motion. And much of the game. I think the allowed holding was about 50/50.
Make all the excuses in the world, but you didn't turnover 11 guys on defense. So, logically, a lot of those same guys will be playing. I'm not claiming that OU isn't vastly improved - they most certainly could be. I'm just glad the media has pegged us as underdogs and everyone seems to be jumping on the OU bandwagon - because OU hasn't seen a team as complete as Clemson this year.
Soonersincefitty
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No, you're right.
This is essentially the same bunch we had playing defense last year.
The difference is a radical new philosophy...in other words, they've been re-purposed.
Neither has Clemson.
I am very surprised that Clemson is a betting underdog. I'd prefer they weren't. And really, it's not a prognostication of who will win, but rather which number will bring in equal handle.
The key matchups will be OU's two freshman tackles blocking Clemson's edge rushers, who can run the ball more effectively without using the quarterback to do it, and which receivers catch the damn ball. But mostly, I believe, it's how much Clemson's Heisman invite quarterback breaks tackles in the pocket and then makes life miserable for the defense.
Striker gets there a lot. The roster says Watson weighs 207, but he looks bigger than that. And he is fast. How well he and Devonte Bond tackle Watson before he roams free will decide who wins, along with OU's inside rushers.
And then there is THE KICKING GAME. At the beginning of the year, OUr freshman punter/kicker looked like a combination of Ray Guy and Lou Groza. He's tailed off a little bit. I just hope the moment isn't too big for him.
I am certain that Clemson's return game both punting and kickoffs will be better than OU's. Especially punt returning, we just aren't very dangerous. But OUr coverage has been terrific, kick off kicker has been close to great. I think both defenses are pretty good. But I see a game that looks a lot like the ACC title game.
OU has been vulnerable on the first defensive possession of each half. Then they've adjusted to blocking scheme and been great, especially in the second half. All I know is that I'm really looking forward to it. And I think we have a great chance to win.
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I think Watson is a dirtbag. Here's why:
1. He opens his Christmas presents on December 23
2 Eats cereal dry, no milk
3. Never uses his turn indicator to change lanes
4. Follows the Kardashians on Twitter
5. Chews his food with his mouth open
6. Calls his Mom by her first name
7. After every shower, he throws the bar of soap away because "it's dirty."
8. He asked three different girls to the prom, then didn't go
9. Gets all of his news from YouTube videos
10. Has about 12 decorate pillows on his bed
1. He opens his Christmas presents on December 23
2 Eats cereal dry, no milk
3. Never uses his turn indicator to change lanes
4. Follows the Kardashians on Twitter
5. Chews his food with his mouth open
6. Calls his Mom by her first name
7. After every shower, he throws the bar of soap away because "it's dirty."
8. He asked three different girls to the prom, then didn't go
9. Gets all of his news from YouTube videos
10. Has about 12 decorate pillows on his bed
Whatever he is or isn't, he will be the best QB faced by OU this season as TCU's Boykin and Baylor's Russell did not play in their games vs OU.....Rudolph (OSU's starting QB) made just a handful of plays against OU.
OU will be playing opponents now that are better than any they faced in the regular season when factoring in the key QB injuries mentioned....and OU damn near lost the TCU game without Mayfield playing in the second half, against a TCU team without Boykin the entire game.
Dabo's 2 Cents Worth...
http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article48310250.html
http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article48310250.html
When I see him play, he reminds me of Vince Young, of course he can pass better
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Now would be a good time to talk , yal always have trouble once the game starts..That is when you play Clemson . What was the score at halftime, nobody on here got the guts to say it ..
Soonersincefitty
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Man, we've got three weeks of yous guys coming here and flapping those lips?
It's OK, we've been through way worse.
You guys are rank amateurs.
I know we are , now all u have to is go and win the game .. That is when the clock has all zeros , yal have more points than we do beside our names.That has been your problem , you haven't done that . In fact if we would have punted on first down every possession after the first play from scrimmage, guess what , we would have still won 7-6...
You're a guy that's a fan of a team that played no one all year. There's a reason the committee was looking to completely devalue your conference with what they did to UNC prior to the game. You can keep up this false bravado, I'll laugh until the game is played and if OU loses then I'll be here to congratulate them... not you as a pathetic wannabe fan that doesn't know how to have respect for anyone else.
Good luck big fella. If OU wins, I hope you don't lose your job that week.
I agree. And if the Clemson players go in thinking this year is gonna be like last year, there is no doubt they will lose this game. And if you are representive of how the Tiger fan base thinks, they're gonna be shocked & have a shitty New Year's Eve night.
Game is gonna be damn tough. Watson is gonna be a tough task for OUs defense to shut down. This may be one of those games where OUs offense is just gonna have to outscore Clemson's offense, because I don't see this being a game where OU is going to dominate defensively. Historically, Mike Stoops has had some troubles with stopping QBs that can make bigtime plays with their feet. Watson is certainly one of those type guys.
Soonersincefitty
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Well, I agree to a point.
However, I think this team is so focused on the ultimate prize that they will play even better than they did against Baylor and the Pokes.
That was the metric that a lot of people have established as this teams best performances. Bullshit!
I think we'll see some fireworks new years eve that will have everyone saying...did you see that? Did you see that?
It's time for #8...and we're gonna get it.
All you have to do is win . Don't want to hear anything about " committee ",acc, or anything else . When the team in orange and the burgundy and white jogged onto the field last year , the team in orange win by 7 td's..
Yal are not a good pack of bottle rocket..Well, I agree to a point.
However, I think this team is so focused on the ultimate prize that they will play even better than they did against Baylor and the Pokes.
That was the metric that a lot of people have established as this teams best performances. Bullshit!
I think we'll see some fireworks new years eve that will have everyone saying...did you see that? Did you see that?
It's time for #8...and we're gonna get it.
Soonersincefitty
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Soonersincefitty
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Well I certainly think that applies to every team in the playoff at this point....they all will surely focused on the ultimate prize. Not like OU is the only team thinking that way. lolWell, I agree to a point.
However, I think this team is so focused on the ultimate prize that they will play even better than they did against Baylor and the Pokes.
That was the metric that a lot of people have established as this teams best performances. Bullshit!
I think we'll see some fireworks new years eve that will have everyone saying...did you see that? Did you see that?
It's time for #8...and we're gonna get it.
OU got better and better as the year went. I just hope the long layoff between games doesn't take anything away from the momentum.
Soonersincefitty
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Well, fair enough.
I, however think the limits of this team are higher than yours...
No surprise really.
That's always been a point of contention with us. I'm used to it now.
Not a problem.
We both know, without error of doubt, where we stand...I like that.
