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This is Islam, plain and simple. Muhammad Ibn Abdullah was general, a war leader that taught followers win at any costs. Sunnah means copy the prophet in every way, dress and actions. Jihad means to struggle against persecution and this is seen as anywhere, so if the US is killing Muslims anywhere in the world, then 'righteous" Muslims are obligated to war against the enemy until there is no further persecution. When you hear a Muslim saying that they are a religion of peace, that is true, UNLESS there is jihad and the US actions against world Islam has them is a state of jihad, whether openly called by a leader or not. They don't need a fake CIA organization like Al Qaeda or ISIS to carryout domestic terrorism.

Yep, I don't give a tinkers damn what happened a 1000 years ago. I tend to live in the here and now.

Now these bastards, the rad muslims started this era of conflict and like a by God we should kill them. That's what they're trying to do to us.
Forget about ancient history.
As far as bravado, it wouldn't be false at all. You either kill or be killed.
It's not rocket surgery.
 
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100% correct, I practiced Islam and have studied it. Keep your false Christianity sin nature out of this. Islam teaches WAR, Christianity doesn't do that. I guess you think the moon deity is the same as Yahweh? Islam teaches deception is war and the US is at war with more than Iraq, but Yemen Libya, Syria, Afghanistan... The US is at war with Islam.
 
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If they had a rebel flag people would be protesting and the govt would not be afraid to go after these people. Flags and guns kill people.
 
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Let's look at this with a bit of logic ... something in short supply with some of you.

George Bush invaded a Muslim country that did nothing to us (not a single 9-11 assassin was from Iraq). "Crusaders" invading their lands riled up the Middle East. This ultimately led to the so-called Arab Spring, where most of the dictators who kept their thumbs on the various religious nuts were overthrown, with our help in several instances. Now look at the damn mess in that part of the world ... total chaos. And WE were the instigators! Thanks, Bush and Chaney, you freaking morons.

Now look at America since 9-11: There are 6 million Muslims in America. There has not been a single successful attack by Muslim wing nuts directly conn

Now comes the California attack. Again, those two murderous twits were self-motivated (one was actually born here) and had no direct connection to any Muslim country. Yeah, the female killer lived over there most of her life, but she was not a part of any terrorist organization like Al Qaeda or ISIS, as far as the FBI can tell.

So all you gun freaks--most of whom would shit their pants and hide if they encountered actual "terrorists" shooting live ammo at them--should just relax and stop with the fake bravado. If you haven't been in the m

Jeez, you think maybe we should be more concerned with right-wing Christian fundamentalists Than Muslim fundamentalists? They've done infinitely more damage than Muslims so far, and I suspect they will do a whole lot more in the future.

The true evil of our times is religion, in whatever form it takes.

Wrong. The true evil of our times are people who lie, spread falsehoods, and otherwise obscure the truth. Next worse are those who understand the truth but do nothing to prevent the spread of evil.

Everything you wrote, virtually every sentence, is incorrect. No direct ties? She was born in Saudi Arabia and lived in Pakistan.That's direct. The Boston brothers can't be Muslim because they were born in Chechnya? Lol, Chechnya is almost entirely Muslim.

Here is the real truth:

Liberals are a Societal Wrecking Crew.

Ever notice how Liberals hate all traditional unifying factors of western culture, whether family, church and national patriotism? Or how Government and Media are embraced by these same Liberals as a blunt force instrument to achieve their goals against our society?

For Family, they oppose it with the forces of Feminism and the Gay Movement among others, like expanded abortions, creation of a welfare state, etc.

For Church, they oppose it with their Mass Migration initiative of foreign religions and can then impose tolerance and retreat of our founding values and traditions.

For National Patriotism, these anti-Americans seek to destroy borders and culture by not enforcing laws, entering with ever larger trade pacts and globalist organizations, and programs that encourage illegalities by rewarding them

Guns, are a huge target of the Liberals, because they know an unarmed populous is a compliant populous. Their divisive policies create the conditions of violence, either directly (Fast and Furious) or indirectly (broken families). The law abiding citizen is not the root cause of gun violence - liberal policies are.

America needs Liberal-control....as well as control of apologists who seek to obscure the truth being learned by the masses.
 
Let's look at this with a bit of logic ... something in short supply with some of you.

George Bush invaded a Muslim country that did nothing to us (not a single 9-11 assassin was from Iraq). "Crusaders" invading their lands riled up the Middle East. This ultimately led to the so-called Arab Spring, where most of the dictators who kept their thumbs on the various religious nuts were overthrown, with our help in several instances. Now look at the damn mess in that part of the world ... total chaos. And WE were the instigators! Thanks, Bush and Chaney, you freaking morons.

Now look at America since 9-11: There are 6 million Muslims in America. There has not been a single successful attack by Muslim wing nuts directly connected to the Middle East. The Boston bombers were from Chechen, not even a Middle East country (though the brothers claimed they were Muslim). Several other small attacks theoretically encouraged by Muslim countries, or terrorists there, were either thwarted or were incompetent and unsuccessful here.

Now comes the California attack. Again, those two murderous twits were self-motivated (one was actually born here) and had no direct connection to any Muslim country. Yeah, the female killer lived over there most of her life, but she was not a part of any terrorist organization like Al Qaeda or ISIS, as far as the FBI can tell.

So all you gun freaks--most of whom would shit their pants and hide if they encountered actual "terrorists" shooting live ammo at them--should just relax and stop with the fake bravado. If you haven't been in the military or police and are actually trained to encounter such shit, you will be worthless if confronted with it.

So stop trying to rile up a potential 6 million people who have kept the peace and want to live the so-called American dream in this country. They are part of us and want basically the same things we want, including freedom to practice their version of that great fairy tale known as religion.
So let them!

Stop labeling them and ostracizing them and pissing them off and threatening them. What the hell have they done to you? Nada.

Yeah, there will be more of these "lone wolf" attacks by people who practice the Muslim religion. Just as there will be more Christian attacks. The California nuts are kinda like the psycho who killed and wounded people in Colorado recently--a good ole Bible-thumping Christian. Or Timothy McVeigh, another Christian boy. Or the crackpot Christian at Sandy Hook. Or the nice Christian boys who shot up Columbine. Or ... on and on and on.

Jeez, you think maybe we should be more concerned with right-wing Christian fundamentalists Than Muslim fundamentalists? They've done infinitely more damage than Muslims so far, and I suspect they will do a whole lot more in the future.

The true evil of our times is religion, in whatever form it takes.
This post is the biggest pile of steaming ignorance I believe I've ever read. I'm not much of a fan of the extreme right or extreme left. This display of far left "progressive" thought is embarrassing and is the reason other countries dealing with Islamic terrorism laugh at us and wonder whose side we're on.

You can blame Iraq on Bush, but Obama firmly holds the blame for Libya, Syria, and the rise of the Islamic State. In his rush to help "rebels," he provided US air power and supplied guns to the very terrorists who we're at war with and has done nothing effective to address the issue.

McVeigh's motivation had nothing to do with his religious beliefs. The Columbine duo didn't kill in the name of religion. The recent abortion clinic shooter did not kill for his religion. Kid shooting black people in a church? Not religion.

The fact that you tried to lump the above examples in with the ISIS supporting shooters in San Bernardino shows the exact problem with people who think like you do. You're devoid of common sense and are unable to grasp simple truths. You're all about the agenda regardless of the outcome of it. You're what is wrong with this country.
 
lol...I'm thinking since Farook later murdered 14 of his co-workers, he kind of lost his own argument. Of course Islam as a religion incites its followers to commit acts of terror. Everyone knows this.
Someone posted a quote by the AG from California saying her focus was on possible backlash against muslims. Great - don't worry about finding the other members of this sleeper cell...worry that the criminals' civil liberties remain intact.

This country needs a do-over.

But what we are possibly getting is a Comb-Over...
 
This post is the biggest pile of steaming ignorance I believe I've ever read. I'm not much of a fan of the extreme right or extreme left. This display of far left "progressive" thought is embarrassing and is the reason other countries dealing with Islamic terrorism laugh at us and wonder whose side we're on.

You can blame Iraq on Bush, but Obama firmly holds the blame for Libya, Syria, and the rise of the Islamic State. In his rush to help "rebels," he provided US air power and supplied guns to the very terrorists who we're at war with and has done nothing effective to address the issue.

McVeigh's motivation had nothing to do with his religious beliefs. The Columbine duo didn't kill in the name of religion. The recent abortion clinic shooter did not kill for his religion. Kid shooting black people in a church? Not religion.

The fact that you tried to lump the above examples in with the ISIS supporting shooters in San Bernardino shows the exact problem with people who think like you do. You're devoid of common sense and are unable to grasp simple truths. You're all about the agenda regardless of the outcome of it. You're what is wrong with this country.

Tic Toc, getting jiggy with it...:D
 
Wrong. The true evil of our times are people who lie, spread falsehoods, and otherwise obscure the truth. Next worse are those who understand the truth but do nothing to prevent the spread of evil.

Everything you wrote, virtually every sentence, is incorrect. No direct ties? She was born in Saudi Arabia and lived in Pakistan.That's direct. The Boston brothers can't be Muslim because they were born in Chechnya? Lol, Chechnya is almost entirely Muslim.

Here is the real truth:

Liberals are a Societal Wrecking Crew.

Ever notice how Liberals hate all traditional unifying factors of western culture, whether family, church and national patriotism? Or how Government and Media are embraced by these same Liberals as a blunt force instrument to achieve their goals against our society?

For Family, they oppose it with the forces of Feminism and the Gay Movement among others, like expanded abortions, creation of a welfare state, etc.

For Church, they oppose it with their Mass Migration initiative of foreign religions and can then impose tolerance and retreat of our founding values and traditions.

For National Patriotism, these anti-Americans seek to destroy borders and culture by not enforcing laws, entering with ever larger trade pacts and globalist organizations, and programs that encourage illegalities by rewarding them

Guns, are a huge target of the Liberals, because they know an unarmed populous is a compliant populous. Their divisive policies create the conditions of violence, either directly (Fast and Furious) or indirectly (broken families). The law abiding citizen is not the root cause of gun violence - liberal policies are.

America needs Liberal-control....as well as control of apologists who seek to obscure the truth being learned by the masses.
Islam is a religion of peace....
 
This post is the biggest pile of steaming ignorance I believe I've ever read. I'm not much of a fan of the extreme right or extreme left. This display of far left "progressive" thought is embarrassing and is the reason other countries dealing with Islamic terrorism laugh at us and wonder whose side we're on.

You can blame Iraq on Bush, but Obama firmly holds the blame for Libya, Syria, and the rise of the Islamic State. In his rush to help "rebels," he provided US air power and supplied guns to the very terrorists who we're at war with and has done nothing effective to address the issue.

McVeigh's motivation had nothing to do with his religious beliefs. The Columbine duo didn't kill in the name of religion. The recent abortion clinic shooter did not kill for his religion. Kid shooting black people in a church? Not religion.

The fact that you tried to lump the above examples in with the ISIS supporting shooters in San Bernardino shows the exact problem with people who think like you do. You're devoid of common sense and are unable to grasp simple truths. You're all about the agenda regardless of the outcome of it. You're what is wrong with this country.
Egypt
 
Islam is a religion of peace....
There are plenty of peaceful Muslims, a majority actually, but Islam has never been a religion of peace. Historically it has been a religion of aggression against non-Muslims, slavery, and subhuman treatment of women.
 
You can blame Iraq on Bush, but Obama firmly holds the blame for Libya, Syria, and the rise of the Islamic State. In his rush to help "rebels," he provided US air power and supplied guns to the very terrorists who we're at war with and has done nothing effective to address the issue.
The thing about Bush and Iraq.....Bush handed Obama an Iraq that had completely moved on from the insurgency and was clearly on the road to being a successful state. And Obama was so ready to get out of Iraq, that he royally screwed it up by disengaging militarily and politically, and allowed the remnants of the insurgency(AQI) to gain momentum again. And those remnants used the vacuum of the Sryian civil war, since Obama refused to help the rebels who were BEGGING for help, and have since become ISIS and become far more powerful than they ever accomplished under Bush's administration. Thanks Obama, you freakin moron!!!
 
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Islam is a religion of peace....
No, it's not. That's their corporate motto and what they show to the outside world but Islam, at its core, is about forcing the rest of the world to convert to Islam and enslaving them through their practices. If you've studied Islam as you said you did, you have to know this.
 
Islam is a religion of peace....

I have good news for you. The President is going to speak tonight and tell us how he is going to keep Muslims safe in this country. Bad news for the infidels.

I smell an executive order coming. Hide your weapons.
 
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I have good news for you. The President is going to speak tonight and tell us how he is going to keep Muslims safe in this country. Bad news for the infidels.

I smell an executive order coming. Hide your weapons.
an armed revolt against OBAMA? right wing gun nut's share there paranoid world view.
 
your just a ranting paranoid loser!!

I have no criminal record. I can pass a background check faster than they can process my debit card payment. It's great to be on the right side of the law. Something you will never experience.
 
I have no criminal record. I can pass a background check faster than they can process my debit card payment. It's great to be on the right side of the law. Something you will never experience.
hey mr dipshit,,i have no record,i also had a white house security clearance,that's a background check like you will never understand,your just a paranoid ranting fool.
 
what's wrong,your imaginary friend won't protect you,is that why you have to carry a gun everywhere.

I carry a S&W with me. As well as a Kershaw. I can cut and gut just about anything with them, although I've yet to need to.
Maybe if there were more people with concealed carry around, instead of 14 dead plus injured, there might be one injured and two dead Sunni Muslim terrorists?
My friends aren't imaginary either, whether you can see them or not...
 
I carry a S&W with me. As well as a Kershaw. I can cut and gut just about anything with them, although I've yet to need to.
Maybe if there were more people with concealed carry around, instead of 14 dead plus injured, there might be one injured and two dead Sunni Muslim terrorists?
My friends aren't imaginary either, whether you can see them or not...
well good for you,i don't need to carry a gun,and i don't need imaginary friends either.
 
lol...I'm thinking since Farook later murdered 14 of his co-workers, he kind of lost his own argument. Of course Islam as a religion incites its followers to commit acts of terror. Everyone knows this.

Someone posted a quote by the AG from California saying her focus was on possible backlash against muslims. Great - don't worry about finding the other members of this sleeper cell...worry that the criminals' civil liberties remain intact.

This country needs a do-over.

That's why so many Shia commit acts of terror? Seems like dropping bombs on a country full of Orthodox Christians, Jews, and Shia Muslims who have committed no acts of terror, against anyone, might be terrorism in and of itself.
The fact that we support the Saudis while they have financed more terrorist activity against America is what I question. Can an American go to Saudi Arabia and confess belief in a deity other than Allah?
I know for a fact that I can go to a church or synagogue in Syria, Libya or Egypt. Yet we oust their leaders and support those who behead Christians and Jews... ok.
 
well good for you,i don't need to carry a gun,and i don't need imaginary friends either.

Never said I carry a gun. I'm not allowed to in this country. I carry a S&W that I can cut and gut with... :D
I agree, I don't need imaginary friends either.
 
Funny irony...I'd still defend GSX to the death against radical muslims with my guns he has no problem mocking.

One needs to seriously think twice about this. The way GSX's blood-sucking, money hungry attorneys rule the civil courts, it is best to stick with defending yourself and your family. You'll likely avoid a criminal conviction and a civil case when you stick with defending just yourself and family. Go beyond that, your chances diminish greatly. Sorry. Scratch GSX off my list.
 
One needs to seriously think twice about this. The way GSX's blood-sucking, money hungry attorneys rule the civil courts, it is best to stick with defending yourself and your family. You'll likely avoid a criminal conviction and a civil case when you stick with defending just yourself and family. Go beyond that, your chances diminish greatly. Sorry. Scratch GSX off my list.
another stupid rant !
 
another stupid rant !

When a guy can only call someone "stupid", and not give any reason as to why, it means he is totally dumbfounded and doesn't have anything else to say. That's OK, GSX. It isn't the first time you've lost a debate around here. I'm sure you'll be back someday, asking for more abuse. Have a great Sunday. Watch out for the blue lights flashing in your rear view mirror.
 
When a guy can only call someone "stupid", and not give any reason as to why, it means he is totally dumbfounded and doesn't have anything else to say. That's OK, GSX. It isn't the first time you've lost a debate around here. I'm sure you'll be back someday, asking for more abuse. Have a great Sunday. Watch out for the blue lights flashing in your rear view mirror.
s-22 the paranoid ranting fool.
 
this all started over religion.
NICHOLAS THALASINOS, 52

He identified as a Messianic Jew and passionately defended Israel, actively debating about religion in online forums and in person, his friends said.

Only two weeks ago, Thalasinos, of Colton, was having a heated on-the-job discussion about the nature of Islam with Syed Rizwan Farook, his fellow restaurant inspector and one of the shooters.

Thalasinos' friend, Kuuleme Stephens, told The Associated Press that she happened to call him while he was working with Farook and that he brought her into their debate, loudly declaring that Farook "doesn't agree that Islam is not a peaceful religion."

Not flaming but do you know and can quote the Kuran as you do the bible?
 
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Is Obama purposely trying to destroy our country or is he really incompetent. I starting to believe that he is both.
 
I think Obamas motives are two fold.

First, he simply wants to ride out this last year of his presidency and pass this problem off to the next president. At this point he really is more worried about his legacy than doing what's best for the security of the country. So he doesn't want to risk getting involved in a conflict that will end badly and put a huge tarnishing mark on his legacy.

Second, I really believe he feels that if he puts US troops back into Iraq in any type of meaningful numbers, that it will be an indictment on his original decision to fully pull US troops out of Iraq 4 years ago.

In the end, it's easier for him to bypass these issues and just do the bare minimum and passing this problem off to the next administration.
 
Is Obama purposely trying to destroy our country or is he really incompetent. I starting to believe that he is both.

I don't think he believes he is trying to destroy it, but rather he believes he is changing it. Which he is and which he openly has stated as much by running on the platform of 'Hope & Change'. He is a very competent person IMO in the respects that he's suceeding in changing the values of the US. I just don't like his changes & objectives. But he has the traits I'd like to see in one of the conservatives that we have to choose from. Vision, Focus, Discpline, Confidence & Determination. I have a level of respect for anyone that has these traits no matter who they are and whatever their profession. But again, I despise that Obama uses these traits to effect the change we are experiencing.
 
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