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Well it's about time... After thorough investigation the FBI steps up

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and labels San Bernardino a terrorist act. (thoughts and prayers for the victims) Of course the main shooter's Mom lived in the same apartment and knows nothing... No official statement from above.

Just to keep this thread sports related, this horrifc act was done by the jv team...
 
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Well they're coming. Bout time. On another note, two houses down was burglarized & ranascked. We don't live in a gated community, but it's a decent hood (or was LOL) Anyway, this guy fitting a description came down our street, knocking door to door selling magazines. Told us and a few other neighbors that he was a former gangbanger and was trying to reform etc. The cops came knocking on doors shortly afterwards trying to get as much info as possible from us and the neighbors. Our two large dogs went apeshit when he knocked. I only talked to him w/ a crack in the door because the dogs wanted some action. Anyway, his face lit up when he heard the dogs and saw an anry snout. He slowly started backing up. Interesting day to say the least.
 
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and labels San Bernardino a terrorist act.
A "terrorist" act. What kind of terrorists? Pygmies? Smurfs? Lilliputians? Our government won't call it what it is. Because our government refuses to acknowledge these "terrorists" are Muslim. So nothing changes. We're all in harm's way.

Don't wait around for the government to protect you. They're too worried about offending someone and some even believe those who cherish their 2nd Amendment rights are the focus of the problem. Here is what Attorney General Loretta Lynch is concerned about the most. "incredibly disturbing rise of anti-Muslim rhetoric… that fear is my greatest fear.” She said that AFTER the CA shooting.

It's every man for himself now. You snooze, you lose.
 
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Like a lemming, GSX is told what to think by the low-IQ web page that he reads every day. Furthermore, he'll never have the balls to confront a muslim. Sleep well GSX.
 
what's wrong,your imaginary friend won't protect you,is that why you have to carry a gun everywhere.

Ironically, your last words will likely be "OH MY GOD!"

Sleep well.
 
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i'll sleep just fine without your bullshit religion.

This is what GSX does. If he doesn't like what people are saying, he does this to get threads deleted. He learned this tactic on his low-IQ web site that he worships every day.
 
HA ha ha. Says the guy with a Ronnie James Dio avatar.
tell me all about your peaceful religion. If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12
 
A Ronnie James Dio nuttard telling me to go sacrifice an animal. Let me be the first to thank GSX for completing my work in this thread. Life is good
 
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A Ronnie James Dio nuttard telling me to go sacrifice an animal. Let me be the first to thank GSX for completing my work in this thread. Life is good
more of your peaceful religion Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18
 
we're all just trying to find our nut in the world.
It's a great time to be alive when I can read petty arguments on the web that amount to squash.
I love it!

Gsx has made his purpose clear. Just don't let it get to you. I can tell he's a genuinely good guy. That's what we need right now.
 
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Time to add @gsxrace01 to the prayer list. But yes I also would defend him with my guns against crazy radicals too sensitive to handle any criticism about their religion that advocates rape, murder of homosexuals, honor killings etc.
 
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Yup. Just live and let everyone have their own relationship with God. It really is just their business.
 
Time to add @gsxrace01 to the prayer list. But yes I also would defend him with my guns against crazy radicals too sensitive to handle any criticism about their religion that advocates rape, murder of homosexuals, honor killings etc.
homosexuals? more of your peaceful religion If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13
 
tell me all about your peaceful religion. If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12

gsx,

I've always respected you as a Sooner fan and as a poster on this board and have enjoyed and often times agree with your position on issues that many on this board oppose or even find offensive. However, in this case, you are simply derailing a pretty decent thread by turning this from a discussion about personal and national security to one of religion.

We are all well aware of your beliefs on religion, just as many others have made their own personal feelings known about religion, politics, guns, abortion, terrorism, immigrants, etc., etc., etc. But I request that we keep this thread on topic as opposed to taking the discussion in a direction that is not intended or even necessary.

Getting this thread back on track, no matter what or who calls it a terrorist act, I think we can all agree that this was not an act of workplace violence. And this wasn't an impulsive copy-cat attack, but an American-born citizen who was influenced by international terrorists, who devised an attack that was planned and orchestrated well in advance.
 
this all started over religion.
NICHOLAS THALASINOS, 52

He identified as a Messianic Jew and passionately defended Israel, actively debating about religion in online forums and in person, his friends said.

Only two weeks ago, Thalasinos, of Colton, was having a heated on-the-job discussion about the nature of Islam with Syed Rizwan Farook, his fellow restaurant inspector and one of the shooters.

Thalasinos' friend, Kuuleme Stephens, told The Associated Press that she happened to call him while he was working with Farook and that he brought her into their debate, loudly declaring that Farook "doesn't agree that Islam is not a peaceful religion."
 
I am a social moderate and fiscal conservative. I would not call myself a Republican but tend to vote that way as the chasm between our two party system gets larger and larger. Everything about this administration is a failure. This country has never been in greater peril. Tenn, Ft Hood, and now San Bernadino all terrorism. Call it anything else is ignorance or willful blindness. Either way another shockingly bad failure by one of the worst presidents in our history.
 
I am a social moderate and fiscal conservative. I would not call myself a Republican but tend to vote that way as the chasm between our two party system gets larger and larger. Everything about this administration is a failure. This country has never been in greater peril. Tenn, Ft Hood, and now San Bernadino all terrorism. Call it anything else is ignorance or willful blindness. Either way another shockingly bad failure by one of the worst presidents in our history.

Yep, when Dianne Feinstein calls you out, you might want to do a rethink.
 
you see what this thread is really about,right wing god and guns bullshit. stop watching fox news before you lose your mind.

You don't honestly believe CNN or MSNBC to be any better or any less slanted?
 
you see what this thread is really about,right wing god and guns bullshit. stop watching fox news before you lose your mind.

I watch them all. CNN, Fox, MSNBC... I find the amalgam of information is better than one extreme or the other.

That way, my opinion on a given topic is just exclusively that...mine.

What do you believe in GSX?

Surely your little world is more than monthly subscriptions to Hot Rod and Car craft magazines.
 
I watch them all. CNN, Fox, MSNBC... I find the amalgam of information is better than one extreme or the other.

That way, my opinion on a given topic is just exclusively that...mine.

What do you believe in GSX?

Surely your little world is more than monthly subscriptions to Hot Rod and Car craft magazines.
btw,i have 4 gun's,i don't carry any of them and hope i never have to.
 
this all started over religion.
NICHOLAS THALASINOS, 52

He identified as a Messianic Jew and passionately defended Israel, actively debating about religion in online forums and in person, his friends said.

Only two weeks ago, Thalasinos, of Colton, was having a heated on-the-job discussion about the nature of Islam with Syed Rizwan Farook, his fellow restaurant inspector and one of the shooters.

Thalasinos' friend, Kuuleme Stephens, told The Associated Press that she happened to call him while he was working with Farook and that he brought her into their debate, loudly declaring that Farook "doesn't agree that Islam is not a peaceful religion."

lol...I'm thinking since Farook later murdered 14 of his co-workers, he kind of lost his own argument. Of course Islam as a religion incites its followers to commit acts of terror. Everyone knows this.

Someone posted a quote by the AG from California saying her focus was on possible backlash against muslims. Great - don't worry about finding the other members of this sleeper cell...worry that the criminals' civil liberties remain intact.

This country needs a do-over.
 
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lol...I'm thinking since Farook later murdered 14 of his co-workers, he kind of lost his own argument. Of course Islam as a religion incites its followers to commit acts of terror. Everyone knows this.

Someone posted a quote by the AG from California saying her focus was on possible backlash against muslims. Great - don't worry about finding the other members of this sleeper cell...worry that the criminals' civil liberties remain intact.

This country needs a do-over.
all religion is BS.
 
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Let's look at this with a bit of logic ... something in short supply with some of you.

George Bush invaded a Muslim country that did nothing to us (not a single 9-11 assassin was from Iraq). "Crusaders" invading their lands riled up the Middle East. This ultimately led to the so-called Arab Spring, where most of the dictators who kept their thumbs on the various religious nuts were overthrown, with our help in several instances. Now look at the damn mess in that part of the world ... total chaos. And WE were the instigators! Thanks, Bush and Chaney, you freaking morons.

Now look at America since 9-11: There are 6 million Muslims in America. There has not been a single successful attack by Muslim wing nuts directly connected to the Middle East. The Boston bombers were from Chechen, not even a Middle East country (though the brothers claimed they were Muslim). Several other small attacks theoretically encouraged by Muslim countries, or terrorists there, were either thwarted or were incompetent and unsuccessful here.

Now comes the California attack. Again, those two murderous twits were self-motivated (one was actually born here) and had no direct connection to any Muslim country. Yeah, the female killer lived over there most of her life, but she was not a part of any terrorist organization like Al Qaeda or ISIS, as far as the FBI can tell.

So all you gun freaks--most of whom would shit their pants and hide if they encountered actual "terrorists" shooting live ammo at them--should just relax and stop with the fake bravado. If you haven't been in the military or police and are actually trained to encounter such shit, you will be worthless if confronted with it.

So stop trying to rile up a potential 6 million people who have kept the peace and want to live the so-called American dream in this country. They are part of us and want basically the same things we want, including freedom to practice their version of that great fairy tale known as religion.
So let them!

Stop labeling them and ostracizing them and pissing them off and threatening them. What the hell have they done to you? Nada.

Yeah, there will be more of these "lone wolf" attacks by people who practice the Muslim religion. Just as there will be more Christian attacks. The California nuts are kinda like the psycho who killed and wounded people in Colorado recently--a good ole Bible-thumping Christian. Or Timothy McVeigh, another Christian boy. Or the crackpot Christian at Sandy Hook. Or the nice Christian boys who shot up Columbine. Or ... on and on and on.

Jeez, you think maybe we should be more concerned with right-wing Christian fundamentalists Than Muslim fundamentalists? They've done infinitely more damage than Muslims so far, and I suspect they will do a whole lot more in the future.

The true evil of our times is religion, in whatever form it takes.
 
Let's look at this with a bit of logic ... something in short supply with some of you.

George Bush invaded a Muslim country that did nothing to us (not a single 9-11 assassin was from Iraq). "Crusaders" invading their lands riled up the Middle East. This ultimately led to the so-called Arab Spring, where most of the dictators who kept their thumbs on the various religious nuts were overthrown, with our help in several instances. Now look at the damn mess in that part of the world ... total chaos. And WE were the instigators! Thanks, Bush and Chaney, you freaking morons.

Now look at America since 9-11: There are 6 million Muslims in America. There has not been a single successful attack by Muslim wing nuts directly connected to the Middle East. The Boston bombers were from Chechen, not even a Middle East country (though the brothers claimed they were Muslim). Several other small attacks theoretically encouraged by Muslim countries, or terrorists there, were either thwarted or were incompetent and unsuccessful here.

Now comes the California attack. Again, those two murderous twits were self-motivated (one was actually born here) and had no direct connection to any Muslim country. Yeah, the female killer lived over there most of her life, but she was not a part of any terrorist organization like Al Qaeda or ISIS, as far as the FBI can tell.

So all you gun freaks--most of whom would shit their pants and hide if they encountered actual "terrorists" shooting live ammo at them--should just relax and stop with the fake bravado. If you haven't been in the military or police and are actually trained to encounter such shit, you will be worthless if confronted with it.

So stop trying to rile up a potential 6 million people who have kept the peace and want to live the so-called American dream in this country. They are part of us and want basically the same things we want, including freedom to practice their version of that great fairy tale known as religion.
So let them!

Stop labeling them and ostracizing them and pissing them off and threatening them. What the hell have they done to you? Nada.

Yeah, there will be more of these "lone wolf" attacks by people who practice the Muslim religion. Just as there will be more Christian attacks. The California nuts are kinda like the psycho who killed and wounded people in Colorado recently--a good ole Bible-thumping Christian. Or Timothy McVeigh, another Christian boy. Or the crackpot Christian at Sandy Hook. Or the nice Christian boys who shot up Columbine. Or ... on and on and on.

Jeez, you think maybe we should be more concerned with right-wing Christian fundamentalists Than Muslim fundamentalists? They've done infinitely more damage than Muslims so far, and I suspect they will do a whole lot more in the future.

The true evil of our times is religion, in whatever form it takes.

Loretta Lynch couldn't have said that better.:rolleyes:
 
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and labels San Bernardino a terrorist act. (thoughts and prayers for the victims) Of course the main shooter's Mom lived in the same apartment and knows nothing... No official statement from above.

Just to keep this thread sports related, this horrifc act was done by the jv team...
This is Islam, plain and simple. Muhammad Ibn Abdullah was a general, a war leader that taught followers win at any costs. Sunnah means copy the prophet in every way, dress and actions. Jihad means to struggle against persecution and this is seen as anywhere, so if the US is killing Muslims anywhere in the world, then 'righteous" Muslims are obligated to war against the enemy until there is no further persecution. When you hear a Muslim saying that they are a religion of peace, that is true, UNLESS there is jihad and the US actions against world Islam has them is a state of jihad, whether openly called by a leader or not. They don't need a fake CIA organization like Al Qaeda or ISIS to carryout domestic terrorism.
 
Completely wrong. The universal common denominator is man. There is nothing wrong with religion. The failure is man and his nature. Look at almost anything. Man has found a way to corrupt, pervert, and manipulate for his own benefit. A gun is a tool. Can be a tool for protection, for hobby, or for murder. Religion is no different.
 
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