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The King...

So my reply that says it Bud and not Barry is slanderous?
But the original poster who claimed it was Barry is not slanderous?????????
Ill find my book and give you the page number. And the book was written by Jim Dent - NOT Herold Keith.
I'll be right here...EAGERLY awaiting for your Chapter, Verse, and Admission that you know not of what you speak...

And regarding Author, Author, you need to get straight on that, as well. So far, NONE of your facts are correct!
 
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Jim Dent the bail jumping, time serving, 10 DUI getting author?
Yep, I'm sure he's credible...

Dent couldn't carry Harold Keiths quill pen.
As I understand it, Wilkinsons morals and character were unimpeachable. Just this side of Billy Graham in fact.

So, you can see what a furor can be stirred up casting these unsubstantiated charges. Sure, he's dead but his reputation as one of the good guys lives on for eternity.


I have no idea about Jim Dent or Harold Keith (in fact I have never heard of Mr. Keith.) All I can say is to relate the stories that I have read / heard. :shrug: In the grand scheme of things it don't matter!



But I can not be the only one here that has heard that story.
 
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MDSooner, the book is temporarily out of stock, but I intend to purchase it and check it out. I suspect to find that you are mistaken. Perhaps another individual, not Bud Wilkinson. I say this because, as you say, surely such would have been widely discussed here in and around Oklahoma.
 
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MDSooner, the book is temporarily out of stock, but I intend to purchase it and check it out. I suspect to find that you are mistaken. Perhaps another individual, not Bud Wilkinson. I say this because, as you say, surely such would have been widely discussed here in and around Oklahoma.
Okla...Don't waste your $$...Jim Dent's book was a piece of Fiction which he tried to pass of as Truthful, until 'Bud's Boys' came out publicly denouncing it, and HIM, for what it was. Numerous former players called him out on it, and there may have been some lawsuits.

I have it...You don't want it. He tried to feather his own nest by painting himself as an insider until he was very publicly held accountable and the players all agreed they had never heard of him, or the comments he quoted them as saying to him. Some of the more outspoken players requested that the book be banned and urged everyone refrain from buying it...That's why it is Out of Print.;)
 
Okla...Don't waste your $$...Jim Dent's book was a piece of Fiction which he tried to pass of as Truthful, until 'Bud's Boys' came out publicly denouncing it, and HIM, for what it was. Numerous former players called him out on it, and there may have been some lawsuits.

I have it...You don't want it. He tried to feather his own nest by painting himself as an insider until he was very publicly held accountable and the players all agreed they had never heard of him, or the comments he quoted them as saying to him. Some of the more outspoken players requested that the book be banned and urged everyone refrain from buying it...That's why it is Out of Print.;)

You could be 100% correct. I have no idea. I have never met anyone of the parties involved except Barry. I will defend Barry to my dying days. I will drop the subject. But I did read that it was Bud and not Barry
 
Time for YOU to get some glasses, and re-read that book. My copy of it, autographed by the author, Harold Keith, a dear friend, says no such thing. There is nothing FUNNY or Ironic about it. It's slanderous! My guess is that everyone on this board has read the book and none can verify your claim. You don't know Bud Wilkinson and you don't know Harold Keith. Contrary to YOU, they were both Gentlemen, Scholars, Loaded with Class, and two of the biggest Friends OU, and Oklahoma, have ever had. Go sell your story somewhere else. You are barking up the wrong tree, here...:mad:

It's evident that the poster who posted this doesn't realize that we have a great Sooner fan on this board that not only attended OU during the Bud era, but also knows the who's who during the same time frame. ;)

Sick'em Senior!
 
It's evident that the poster who posted this doesn't realize that we have a great Sooner fan on this board that not only attended OU during the Bud era, but also knows the who's who during the same time frame. ;)

Sick me Senior!


I was born and raised in Oklahoma and graduated from OU in 1988



What does that have to do with anything? And that poster getting the author of the book wrong should tell you everything that you need to know.
 
BTW, it'd have to be one brave son of bitchin' player to knowingly walk into his HC's private party. I'm glad you have retracted the story.



Who retracted anything? It wasn't a private party. It was Bud's hotel room






Until proven wrong I will stand behind by beliefs! Y'all do not believe me? Okay - prove me wrong
 
I have no idea about Jim Dent or Harold Keith (in fact I have never heard of Mr. Keith.) All I can say is to relate the stories that I have read / heard. :shrug: In the grand scheme of things it don't matter!



But I can not be the only one here that has heard that story.


You lost me when you said you have never heard of Harold Keith. Don't mean to interrupt the thread, but you need to use that google thing.............
 
Bob can win 3 more championships in a row and Barry would still be King in my mind.

I hear ya.
Bob is a straight arrow, smart, cunning and has a strong internal drive to win. For that we will always appreciate him.

Barry, however is just the quintessential, Readers Digests 'Most unforgettable Character'.:D
 
Sorry, I do not have a link. It was in a book written about the 47 game winning streak. Surely someone else on here has read the book. And can verify my claim. What was funny / ironic about it was that one of his players (I can't remember who) walked into his hotel room and caught them.

I've read that as well.
 
Yep, we're gonna 'brief' the hell out of him..."What do you know and when did you know it?":eek:


Did someone mention briefs??? Sorry, can't help myself.............

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Okla...Don't waste your $$...Jim Dent's book was a piece of Fiction which he tried to pass of as Truthful, until 'Bud's Boys' came out publicly denouncing it, and HIM, for what it was. Numerous former players called him out on it, and there may have been some lawsuits.

I have it...You don't want it. He tried to feather his own nest by painting himself as an insider until he was very publicly held accountable and the players all agreed they had never heard of him, or the comments he quoted them as saying to him. Some of the more outspoken players requested that the book be banned and urged everyone refrain from buying it...That's why it is Out of Print.;)

To the OP, if she said it, I believe it. But for some, if it's in print, they'll believe it. Such as it is.
 
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That link did not work so I fixed your last sentence so it made sense. You're welcome




I tried to send you a PM. Sorry it didn't work. I apologize to the site admins But I still said nothing wrong.[/QUOTE]

MdSooner, I woke up this morning to find that I was wrong for calling you out. I apologize. I've never heard of the Dent book, but obviously Harold Keith's book wasn't the only one that chronicled the best college football record in history. I know now that you weren't making up anything about our great coach, Bud Wilkinson, in that you read about the alleged incident. You graduated in 1988 so you were fortunate enough to be a student when Barry won his last national championship and got to see some amazing players. Barry is my favorite OU coach, too, but I was born in the mid-forties and started listening to and watching OU football right at the start of the streak so naturally those of us older fans love and regard Bud with considerable reverence. SeniorSooner's husband played for Bud in the fifties and knew him personally, so that is why you got the rage. It's like someone telling tales about your father running around on your mother. You know them to be untrue, so you get pissed when you hear them even if from someone that is just repeating what she/he heard. Classic shooting the messenger. Post more often and you will find Senior and the bulk of us posters fun and real Sooner fans.
 
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Good Job, Okla...

You said some things that needed to be said, and are appreciated...Thanks!

I AM defensive about those I admire, respect, and care for. If it's someone from the past, or the present, on OUr Board, or off, if you are my Friend, I have your back.

I am not naïve and am very well aware that Bud, Barry, JFK, and on and on had/have weaknesses and imperfections...Don't we all? My disappointment was stirred when the poster refused to acknowledge that he had no Facts to support his comments and quoted, and misquoted his source. My rebuttal to him was as much a defense of Harold Keith, as it was of Bud. If Bud had circled 'Owen Field' naked, with a Hottie on each arm, Mr. Keith would NOT have put it in his book, the very Factual 47 Straight.

Jim Dent's book was a POS, IMO, as well as in the opinion of anyone I ever heard of, or read about, and there were many. There was a huge Brouhaha when the book was released and people were very public about their dislike of it, and very open in calling the author a liar. Several of the stories were Pulp Fiction which were disproved, and pleas were offered asking the general public to refrain from buying the book. The Players and 'Friends of the Sooners' were livid, and verbal. It created a stink that took a long time to lessen, and has never gone away. Barry made an Anti-Dent Speech and apologized for lending his name to the book, in writing the forward. He commented that if he had bothered to read it, he'd never have done so.

There are those who thrive on that sort of thing. They accept the printed word as gospel and eagerly repeat it, as such...By making others look weak, they attempt to make themselves look better. The most frustrating part of my challenge to MD was that he never even 'got it'. Thanks for the words of support and understanding from those of you who DID!

I don't need the link, the page number, or the quotes. I've read the books, both of 'em...More importantly, I've Lived the Life...

Let's get on with the Business at Hand...We have Ball GameS to Win! BOOMER!! ;)
 
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Good Job, Okla...

You said some things that needed to be said, and are appreciated...Thanks!

I AM defensive about those I admire, respect, and care for. If it's someone from the past, or the present, on OUr Board, or off, if you are my Friend, I have your back.

I am not naïve and am very well aware that Bud, Barry, JFK, and on and on had/have weaknesses and imperfections...Don't we all? My disappointment was stirred when the poster refused to acknowledge that he had no Facts to support his comments and quoted, and misquoted his source. My rebuttal to him was as much a defense of Harold Keith, as it was of Bud. If Bud had circled 'Owen Field' naked, with a Hottie on each arm, Mr. Keith would NOT have put it in his book, the very Factual 47 Straight.

Jim Dent's book was a POS, IMO, as well as in the opinion of anyone I ever heard of, or read about, and there were many. There was a huge Brouhaha when the book was released and people were very public about their dislike of it, and very open in calling the author a liar. Several of the stories were Pulp Fiction which were disproved, and pleas were offered asking the general public to refrain from buying the book. The Players and 'Friends of the Sooners' were livid, and verbal. It created a stink that took a long time to lessen, and has never gone away. Barry made an Anti-Dent Speech and apologized for lending his name to the book, in writing the forward. He commented that if he had bothered to read it, he'd never have done so.

There are those who thrive on that sort of thing. They accept the printed word as gospel and eagerly repeat it, as such...By making others look weak, they attempt to make themselves look better. The most frustrating part of my challenge to MD was that he never even 'got it'. Thanks for the words of support and understanding from those of you who DID!

I don't need the link, the page number, or the quotes. I've read the books, both of 'em...More importantly, I've Lived the Life...

Let's get on with the Business at Hand...We have Ball GameS to Win! BOOMER!! ;)


There are so many things wrong with this post. (EXCEPT the last line)


All I did was correct a poster that said Barry slept with 2 (two) stewardes wen in fact it was reported / wrote that it was Bud.


Heck, for all I know both of them did it. (And seriously who could blame them?////)
 
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