Too many unimpressive wins I guess.
Win out and still might not make it in unless some teams that are 1 thru 7 fall.
Win out and still might not make it in unless some teams that are 1 thru 7 fall.
OU #8 In playoff rankings.
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Here is a look at the full set of rankings:
1. Georgia
2. Alabama
3. Michigan State
4. Oregon
5. Ohio State
6. Cincinnati
7. Michigan
8. Oklahoma
9. Wake Forest
10. Notre Dame
11. Oklahoma State
12. Baylor
13. Auburn
14. Texas A&M
15. BYU
16. Ole Miss
Thanks soldier; what a farce putting teams with losses ahead of OU or anyone else.
Hopefully Linc can use to keep motivating the kids.
The ones ahead of us can/will beat each other; we win out and we’re Golden, imho
Hopefully Linc can use to keep motivating the kids.
The ones ahead of us can/will beat each other; we win out and we’re Golden, imho
Sooners have won 17 games in a row. That should count for something. Ducks give me a F’ing break. Big 12 clearly an albatross.
LOL! These ranking don't mean anything. The national media has spent decades trying to put a black hat on OU. OU overcomes all that, year in and year out. Objective methods like computers and algorithms love OU and that's why they quit using them. LOL! Boomer Sooner!
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I believe this is somewhat based on a teams best win, "good" loss, and some political gamesmanship...with Bama being the outlier.
I would agree that if OU wins out they are in but not a guarantee. Bama only makes it if they beat Georgia in the conference championship, the Big 10 will eat each other, and Oregon with one loss?
There is a lot of clutter right now but one thing is for sure, the committee is underwhelmed by OU season as a whole at this point.
Bama #2? Can't agree with that. OU has nothing to blame but themselves. Hopefully this will light a fire
This did not shock me at all considering the love the committee has for the B10 and SEC. i doubt the KSU AD on that committe went to bat for OU either.
Oregon ahead of TOSU is the right move but I guess based on that win by Oregon the committee turned around and gave them a pass for losing to 3-5 Stanford. ( BTW punishing OU for all the struggles but ignoring the fact we still have zero losses)
What really pissed me off was listening to Herbie applauding the committee for its placement of OU ( maybe it was homer Bama boy ex QB) but a loss is a loss period.
Look for OU to drop to 10 next week during our bye lol. Not a Joey Galloway fan but glad to see him attack the Bama ranking at 2. McElroy had that shit eating grin on his face the whole time.
In the end this could be a huge motivator for this team. If OU wins out they are likely in unless OSU and BU somehow stumble to a team it shouldn’t.
Oregon ahead of TOSU is the right move but I guess based on that win by Oregon the committee turned around and gave them a pass for losing to 3-5 Stanford. ( BTW punishing OU for all the struggles but ignoring the fact we still have zero losses)
What really pissed me off was listening to Herbie applauding the committee for its placement of OU ( maybe it was homer Bama boy ex QB) but a loss is a loss period.
Look for OU to drop to 10 next week during our bye lol. Not a Joey Galloway fan but glad to see him attack the Bama ranking at 2. McElroy had that shit eating grin on his face the whole time.
In the end this could be a huge motivator for this team. If OU wins out they are likely in unless OSU and BU somehow stumble to a team it shouldn’t.
Impressive loss is better than unimpressive win? LOL!
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These meaningless rankings just make it more apparent that a 4 team playoff is a joke. The only division of college football without a true playoff is the highest division of NCAA football.
I hope one day we can get rid of this farce of a playoff and have an actual true playoff.
I hope one day we can get rid of this farce of a playoff and have an actual true playoff.
I guess losing to an unranked team means nothing. See Bama at number 2. What a joke.
Boy it sure knocked out Iowa to lose two games in a row to unranked or barely ranked though !
Hell I am surprised they didnt rank 3 losses in a row Penn State for the benifit of Ohio State.
If OU wins out through the rest of the schedule, then wins the Big12 Championship Game, none of these rankings will matter by early December......nor will the current AP Top 25 or the coaches poll.
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With 7 teams in front of us now its an uphill battle. Dont kid yourself in that the committee has an agenda for everything they do. As it stands now OU could win out and win every game by 30 and still not get in if Oregon , OSU/Mich St and Bama beats UGA. The committee is not going to budge much on those top 6 teams. They say rankings start over every week but we have seen in the past thats just more typical BS talk.
I said it before, SEC teams playing each other, the loser still gets a win with the loss. The win for the other team counts as 2 wins. If you follow the rankings the pollsters always jump an SEC team for winning much higher than they do anyone else. Ever see an SEC team win a close game and drop in the polls? Hell if Bama had just lost to aTm last weekend they would still be in the top 4 and the loss I guess is considered a "quality loss" since it was to another SEC Team. If the SEC is the toughest Football Conference in CF then how come only 2 or 3 teams win it most yrs? How come some of these teams like Miss St and Ole Miss don't win it? They were praising Bama for beating those 2 teams today on ESPN. How about the other Teams that never win it? If its the Toughest CF Conference then one would think Arky would win it some yrs, Miss St, Vanderbilt, Kentucky etc yet they don't.
And as for Herbie and his remarks I lost what little respect I had left for him after his crying episode last year.
On the flip side our Playoff Blowout Losses stick in a lot of people's minds that maybe we just shouldn't be there until we can prove we belong. Lots of ball left, lets see what happens.
And I agree from the post above. I was thinking the same thing, maybe this will light a fire and OU takes it personal and goes on a tear. Hope so.
And as for Herbie and his remarks I lost what little respect I had left for him after his crying episode last year.
On the flip side our Playoff Blowout Losses stick in a lot of people's minds that maybe we just shouldn't be there until we can prove we belong. Lots of ball left, lets see what happens.
And I agree from the post above. I was thinking the same thing, maybe this will light a fire and OU takes it personal and goes on a tear. Hope so.
The committee cuts some slack and allows for a couple of lackluster performances (unless you're Cincinnati). However, when you're one play away from losing to Tulane, Nebraska, West Virginia, Kansas State and Texas, then have to rally in the fourth quarter to beat Kansas, what do you expect? The #8 initial ranking is justified.
Alabama losing to an unranked team what 2 weeks ago and being Number 2 in the CFP Rankings now is ludicris. I can see what they are hoping for, they are keeping Alabama up there in the hopes they beat Georgia in the SEC Title Game given Bama wins out and Georgia gets there unscathed. All about tv ratings and the money. Always has been. One would think in this "Woke" age that not beating up your opponent too much would give you bonus points.
This system stinks and needs to be expanded to include more teams. Not because OU may be left out but because it would put an end to this bias. It should have been more than 4 teams to begin with but when has the NCAA ever gotten anything right?
Question: If OU was in the SEC right now and was 9-0, and none of those wins were against Georgia or Alabama. Would OU be #8 right now?
We have been through this before. We have two ranked teams yet to play and ISU. Just win out and we will make it. Mich/OSU will take care of one, Geo/Bama will take out Bama. Oregon will have less ranked opponents. Cinni will not make it over an undefeated OU. Just win out!
The answer to that question is no.
OU would be number 2 behind Georgia and Bama would be 3. Herbie would talk about how great of a job the committee did because these are the top 3 teams in the country in the toughest conference in the country.
If OU was in the SEC right now, they would only have the lackluster performances against Tulane and Nebraska on their resume. Instead of the scares against West Virginia, Texas, Kansas State and Kansas, they would clearly have four blowout wins against Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Auburn and Kentucky, and they would be a firm #1 in the committee's rankings right now.
I agree. OU has a chance moving forward to be more impressive, and do it against better teams, but struggling with average to below average teams all year isn’t conducive to a top 4 ranking yet.
Uh, no, OU would not be #2 (nor would they deserve to be). Part of the reason Bama is #2 is they’ve won half the national titles over the last 12ish years and they’ve had top 3 recruiting classes the last 4 years (along with Saban being their coach). If we’re all being honest, most real football fans would view Bama as better than OU even with that loss to A&M. It’s sucks to have to look in the mirror (as a team, or just any individual in life in general) and say “I’ve got to get better”, which is what OU needs to do.
Sooners have the murderers row of Big 12 coming up and it's clear the committee pays attention to quality of play. I think it's been a wake up call to the team because going undefeated will not be enough
I believe they would be number 2, because OU and Georgia are the only undefeated teams in the country. No way the committee doesn't have the only 2 SEC teams that are undefeated ranked #1 and #2. I don't disagree that Bama is probably better than OU. I'm just saying that if OU was in the SEC right now with an undefeated record they would be #2 in the rankings behind Georgia.
I'm a lot more concerned about winning than how high we are ranked. Just win baby!
and maybe part of the reason we are 8th is because the committee has seen what has happened to OU in the playoffs numerous times. Maybe we no longer are getting the benefit of the doubt?
Not sure why anyone would be upset about this. From what they've shown so far, I sure wouldn't put OU in the top 4 - I would probably have them around 6. The last three games will change my opinion, one way or the other.
Agree.
Too often, watching OU is like watching a boxer having to fight with one hand behind his back because of the defense.
And if Bama beats Georgia in the championship game two slots will be spoken for.
I think my biggest two issues are Bama's ranking and Cincy at 6. Bama has beaten one team currently ranked and lost to a two loss team playing their backup QB. Cincy has done everything they could except win by larger margins. I know they have not lost and beat ND on the road.
I concede they would likely fall out later in the season, but this is the committee saying there is NO WAY a non power 5 team is getting in the playoffs. Guess it is like everything else follow the money and look who is greasing the wheels.
I am not as upset about the ranking as I am the system. The human element has to be eliminated completely or at least partially. Winning conference titles has to be the first step in even being considered. We all know if the Big 12 had 2 teams finish 12-1 only one is getting in. The 2 from one conference is only for the SEC and that blocks other "Deserving teams" from getting in. For me the words "Best 4" is more BS than truth as this playoff system should be about the "Most deserving 4" which starts with conference championships.
In the end the committee is more concerned with the TV ratings and team names than they are with the most deserving 4. OU's move to the SEC will only help in these situations solely based on the committees SEC narratives. Bottom line is losses have to count no matter who the team is. The committee has a Bama (SEC) - Ohio State problem in which they can't seem to get over it's bias for them.
In all honestly the committee shouldn't even be having weekly top 25. Just get together after championship Saturday and put it out there. However don't hide behind closed doors and allow reporters in to actually write about the selection process in that room. If they have nothing to hide then they should be open to this.
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Having Oregon and Cincinnati above us is what makes me upset. Oregon lost to Stanford. Stanford has 3 wins and is a poor football team. Cincinnati has a win over Notre Dame, but hasn’t played anybody. Cincinnati also struggled with Tulane.
It shouldn't matter what teams have done in the past. If the committee uses past titles won, recruiting rankings etc in their formula then the whole thing is more of a mess than I thought.
And no I don't think OU would be in the top 4 if we were in the SEC this year. The way we have played we would likely have 3 losses at this point vs SEC teams and not be sitting at 9-0.
At this point we no longer control our own destiny and will need help to make the Playoffs. 1st order of business is win out and look good doing it then hope some teams above us lose.
One loss to any of the 3 we have left and its a moot point.
Ok, the committee is subjective and full of shit. You nailed it.
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