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OT......Presidential rant

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pulled into Staples earlier today to pick up a new label maker for work, went in got it came outside hopped in the car drove out to the intersection that takes me to the house. just so happens it is at the end of the runway for Palm Springs international. cops are all over the place, road blocked off, then I look up and about a mile out is Air Force One!!!! 45 minutes later I continue my two mile drive home!!!!!!!!:mad:
 
B O likely had a golf invite.

I promise you that nobody in the country today had better golf weather than Dallas. The weather today was spectacular, and supposed to stay this way for another week. High about 72. No wind. Looks to me like we could use some more rain again.
 
Most likely the President wants to go do some deal making for the former first lady. She is slipping in nearby Nevada. the Bernie politics are closer to B O. But being a socialist aint the same thing as calling yourself a socialist. A Bernie win would embarass the party more than a felon winning.
 
B O likely had a golf invite.

I promise you that nobody in the country today had better golf weather than Dallas. The weather today was spectacular, and supposed to stay this way for another week. High about 72. No wind. Looks to me like we could use some more rain again.
Yeah he's staying at Sunnylands , used to be the Annenberg estate. has it's own 18 hole course on 360 acres in Rancho Mirage, and you might want to check the weather channel.......86 and sunny here today without a whisper of wind! and when you have the whole course to yourself, doesn't get any better than that!
 
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Most likely the President wants to go do some deal making for the former first lady. She is slipping in nearby Nevada. the Bernie politics are closer to B O. But being a socialist aint the same thing as calling yourself a socialist. A Bernie win would embarass the party more than a felon winning.
just so you know, not trying to make this a political thread.....we have to deal with all the Ex-Presidents several times a year, and the current one!
 
My best friend spent close to a decade in Palm desert creating the computer system at LaQuinta. I do not have mastery of the local geography there. But I was thinking that LaQuinta is not in Palm Springs specifically, but close by. I heard his stories and the Hollywood types and presidents and VPs.

I do not know the name of the corporation, but they own PGA West and PGA East and I believe are the second largest owner of resort country clubs in America.

I doubt he would have been welcome at the Annenberg place. I tell friends when describing him that he is now one of ten people in DFW who is more conservative than I am. A few have expressed doubt that there are that many.

My friend loved almost everything about Cali, except for the politics and resulting tax structure. But the weather, especially this time of year, is pretty great.
 
My best friend spent close to a decade in Palm desert creating the computer system at LaQuinta. I do not have mastery of the local geography there. But I was thinking that LaQuinta is not in Palm Springs specifically, but close by. I heard his stories and the Hollywood types and presidents and VPs.

I do not know the name of the corporation, but they own PGA West and PGA East and I believe are the second largest owner of resort country clubs in America.

I doubt he would have been welcome at the Annenberg place. I tell friends when describing him that he is now one of ten people in DFW who is more conservative than I am. A few have expressed doubt that there are that many.

My friend loved almost everything about Cali, except for the politics and resulting tax structure. But the weather, especially this time of year, is pretty great.
well he might have been very welcome at the Annenberg estate. the reason that Annenberg built it was because back in the fitties(pun intended) none of the country clubs would let him join because he was Jewish! so he bought that property in the heart of Rancho Mirage just to stick it to them, later Bob Hope opened Eishenhower Medical Center just down the street from Sunnylands!
 
Most likely the President wants to go do some deal making for the former first lady. She is slipping in nearby Nevada. the Bernie politics are closer to B O. But being a socialist aint the same thing as calling yourself a socialist. A Bernie win would embarass the party more than a felon winning.

No worries Plaino, I'm not running... :confused:
 
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pulled into Staples earlier today to pick up a new label maker for work, went in got it came outside hopped in the car drove out to the intersection that takes me to the house. just so happens it is at the end of the runway for Palm Springs international. cops are all over the place, road blocked off, then I look up and about a mile out is Air Force One!!!! 45 minutes later I continue my two mile drive home!!!!!!!!:mad:


I remember in about 1964 or so when President LBJ drove through Catoosa, at least on the Will Rogers Turnpike. My parents(staunch Democrats) took us to see the limos and heavy security drive by, we were on a hill over looking the scene. There were at least five deputies among us watching the families that had gathered. No more JFK, I guess.

In 1968 HHH...Hubert Humphrey visited the Catoosa High School gym for a speech. My parents went inside and I stayed outside to watch the George Wallace protestors banging drums, talking on loud speakers and waving the confederate flag. Pretty fun times for a guy my age. The traffic jam in Catoosa lasted about two minutes if I remember correctly............

:)
 
You guys suck. 40's here today.

It was 83 yesterday and still supposed to hit the 70's tomorrow. Running the A/C during the day then heat at night... now that sucks... but not as bad as looking out for rattlesnakes when clearing cedar in February...
 
I live near a freeway exit Obama uses whenever he comes to L.A. It's actually pretty interesting to see his large motorcade drive by. Saw the motorcade yesterday. He always uses two identical limos and it is difficult to tell which of the two he is riding in. One is apparently a decoy that could also be used if one breaks down. Obama's motorcade has caused some massive traffic jams here. He is generally not welcome here because of the traffic tie ups. And of course some just don't want him here for political reasons.
 
The last time I put JP4 fuel on AF1 it was a Boeing 707. Poor old LBJ.

Last I gassed up the Thunderbirds were F-100 Super Sabres. The short lived F-105s were too dangerous for acrobatic use. The last Canadian Golden Hawk aerial team I gassed were the old F-86 Sabre jets. Without afterburners, the Canadians looked like they were flying Piper Cubs.

I never gassed up the Blue Angels.

fitty didn't start this thread? Wow!
 
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Got a tweet from a friend this morning saying it was something like 16 degrees in Cincinnati with icy roads. When my wife told her it was 60 with south breezes here, she sent a picture of a fist with a frozen middle finger. No lady, she.

Speaking of motorcades, my wife and I were in Houston early last year and Joe Biden's son was coming to the MD Anderson cancer center for treatment. We were shooed off the interstate and had to sit on a side road until his motorcade passed on the way to downtown.

This was not even the VP, just his son. Not that I begrudge Joe's son his treatment, but I was wondering why they don't provide a chopper and save a lot of trouble and the expense of blocking off interstate highways for miles and more than 40 minutes. There were two cop cars at every on-ramp until the motorcade passed.

Oh, and show up in a certain part of Dallas when Bush or his wife decide to go shopping! Oh, Lawdy!
 
I am not sure what decade Plaino references in his post about La Quinta but at one point, well into the 80's, La Quinta was a part of Landmark, which was, if I'm not mistaken, the largest developer of resorts in the U.S. before the Feds broke it up in the aftermath of the S&L scandal. Landmark was owned by Ardmore native Gerry Barton. He and his wife Jo graduated #1 & #2 in their OU Law class. After Gerry was asked to get out of the insurance business in Oklahoma by state insurance commissioner Joe B. Hunt, he left United Founders Life and moved to Carmel and started Landmark. The corporate emblem was an oak tree and his first development was Oaktree in Edmond. At one time he owned Carmel Valley Ranch Estates, La Quinta, PGA West, Mission Hills,The Palm Beach Polo Club, and others. He developed the Ocean Course on Kiawah Island. When the S&L rules were changed in lieu of the scandal, Gerry was told he had to either divest himself from his properties or his S&L in New Orleans because he had too much of the S&L's money invested in speculative developments. No matter that the business was highly solvent. The rules had changed. Gerry eventually lost everything but he sued the govt. and won in the U.S. Supreme Court but it was a hollow victory because there was nothing left. One of his executives committed suicide over the whole deal. Gerry started all over and has since developed courses in Houston (Meadowbrook Farms), the Rio Grand Valley, Ireland, and Spain. He and Jo now live in Annapolis, Maryland. They graduated from OU undergraduate school in 1952. Jo and my wife were Kappa's at OU although not at the same time and they served as co-rush advisors for the chapter for several years.
The United Founders situation dealt with a business relationship the company had with the Central States Teamsters Fund.
 
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I am not sure what decade Plaino references in his post about La Quinta but at one point, well into the 80's, La Quinta was a part of Landmark, which was, if I'm not mistaken, the largest developer of resorts in the U.S. before the Feds broke it up in the aftermath of the S&L scandal. Landmark was owned by Ardmore native Gerry Barton. He and his wife Jo graduated #1 & #2 in their OU Law class. After Gerry was asked to get out of the insurance business in Oklahoma by state insurance commissioner Joe B. Hunt, he left United Founders Life and moved to Carmel and started Landmark. The corporate emblem was an oak tree and his first development was Oaktree in Edmond. At one time he owned Carmel Valley Ranch Estates, La Quinta, PGA West, Mission Hills,The Palm Beach Polo Club, and others. He developed the Ocean Course on Kiawah Island. When the S&L rules were changed in lieu of the scandal, Gerry was told he had to either divest himself from his properties or his S&L in New Orleans because he had too much of the S&L's money invested in speculative developments. No matter that the business was highly solvent. The rules had changed. Gerry eventually lost everything but he sued the govt. and won in the U.S. Supreme Court but it was a hollow victory because there was nothing left. One of his executives committed suicide over the whole deal. Gerry started all over and has since developed courses in Houston (Meadowbrook Farms), the Rio Grand Valley, Ireland, and Spain. He and Jo now live in Annapolis, Maryland. They graduated from OU undergraduate school in 1952. Jo and my wife were Kappa's at OU although not at the same time and they served as co-rush advisors for the chapter for several years.
The United Founders situation dealt with a business relationship the company had with the Central States Teamsters Fund.

We're the Elder Mathis Bros a part of the Landmark deal?

I have a fleeting memory of that situation.
 
Not that I'm aware of. Landmark was owned by the Barton's and their entire family worked with them. Pete Dye did all their course design although later they used other designers. Chuck Fairbanks worked for them and several top golfers wore the Oaktree emblem.
 
I do not know the name of the corp. I do know that the number two guy is from Milwaukee and knew my friend very well for years, and knew he was brilliant with data. About the middle of my friends time there was 1997, because we met him in LA the year the Rangers started their plunge from contention the night we watched them blow a late lead in Anaheim, the only year from 96 to 99 that they did not win the West. John Wettland blew the save. So he left the desert in the first three or four years of this century.

My buddy now owns his own data company in FW and has it worth low eight figures. When he was in the desert, he was like a kid in a candy store, with and unlimited expense account.
 
We're the Elder Mathis Bros a part of the Landmark deal?

I have a fleeting memory of that situation.

I think you might have confused Don Mathis' purchase of Oaktree Golf Club being connected with Landmark, which to best of my knowledge wasn't. That was back around 1990 or so. Don moved to the Palm Springs area years ago.
 
I think you might have confused Don Mathis' purchase of Oaktree Golf Club being connected with Landmark, which to best of my knowledge wasn't. That was back around 1990 or so. Don moved to the Palm Springs area years ago.
I know the Mathis bros. opened up a big store in Indio many years ago. does Ernie Vossler ring a bell to anyone as far as the Landmark courses. some reason I was thinking he was involved with PGA West and Landmark?
 
I know the Mathis bros. opened up a big store in Indio many years ago. does Ernie Vossler ring a bell to anyone as far as the Landmark courses. some reason I was thinking he was involved with PGA West and Landmark?

Yes, Vossler was the chairman of Landmark's golf operations and started Oak Tree Golf Club with a partner. He was the pro at Southern Hills here Tulsa before leaving to become the pro at Quail Creek in OKC. He retired in and around the PGA West area before passing away about 4 years ago.
 
I think you might have confused Don Mathis' purchase of Oaktree Golf Club being connected with Landmark, which to best of my knowledge wasn't. That was back around 1990 or so. Don moved to the Palm Springs area years ago.

That's it. Landmark was in the paper all the time in the 80's. I also remember Don built a huge house outside of Cashion.

Just a long time ago.
 
Yes, that was about a year or so after Don sold the furniture store to Bill and Larry in 1988. I know he was already living in Palm Springs by 1996.
 
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