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Yes, Australia did. Go to any forum that discusses this and you'll read that if given the choice once more, most would object. Speaking of AK47s. there are twice the number of deaths each year with hammers vs AK47s.

I'm sure there will be a day that some far leftist will gather enough strength to push for 'regulations' but DCs and Chcago's gun law was recently challenged and both failed miserably. These are two huge BLUE counties in this country.

Specifically, what regulations would you submit and push for?
 
Medic007 said:
That made me chuckle. Yes, throwing out the Fox News schtick and rants of socialist visions is always evidence of framing arguments well.
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Coming from you, I'd expect no less as you still believe 22 whopped up on me last week. You're not very objective and right on que... 22 posts. If/when the need to call someone a dick in the midde of a debate/argument, you've lost. I don't like and care for his rhetoric no more than you and most on the board, but he handles himself much better than those with differing views. At least he argues his points with civility.
 
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WhyNotaSooner said:
Yep... and right on que... if/when the need to call someone a dick in the midde of a debate/argument, they've lost. I don't like and care for his rhetoric no more than you and most on the board, but he handles himself much better than those with differing views. At least he argues his points with civility.
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You want a cookie? Some warm milk? Tampax? You can call the sky purple but it doesn't mean you're right. I know you won't get that with you being you and all.

Sorry for disagreeing with the ever Righteous WNAS, Defender of All Needing Defending. So noble the cause, so noble the man. Even when you couldn't possibly be more wrong, you're right, right?

I'll let you get back to your greatness.
 
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WhyNotaSooner said:
Yes, Australia did. Go to any forum that discusses this and you'll read that if given the choice once more, most would object. Speaking of AK47s. there are twice the number of deaths each year with hammers vs AK47s.

I'm sure there will be a day that some far leftist will gather enough strength to push for 'regulations' but DCs and Chcago's gun law was recently challenged and both failed miserably. These are two huge BLUE counties in this country.

Specifically, what regulations would you submit and push for?
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I think I've already suggested some regulations. I suspect that we will eventually impose more extensive background checks, and I would anticipate that a lot of the open carry of handguns will be regulated. Although not a lot of AK47s are used in murders, the damage when they are used would be limited if the AK47 had not been the weapon. The mass murder situations like schools and theaters are more difficult if the available weapon is a shotgun or rifle.

You fell a little into the "plaino"-type language when you spoke of leftists wanting gun regulation. A lot of the push is being made by law enforcement agencies who don't want to be facing automatic weapons. These are hardly leftist.

Although this is not likely to come up in the near future, constitutional scholars are definitely not in agreement about the meaning of the second amendment wording, "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Does this mean that individuals are granted the right to bear arms? Does it mean that the right to bear arms has something to do with a militia? Does it assume that the reason for bearing arms is the necessity of a militia for the security of free state? There are a lot of questions that are not resolved, and it is not exactly clear what the intent was when the amendment was written. This is not settled law and will likely undergo a good number of court decisions in the future. Don't forget that "conservative" presidents have proposed gun control. It isn't necessarily a leftist issue.
 
Medic007 said:
Sorry for disagreeing with the ever Righteous WNAS, Defender of All Needing Defending. So noble the cause, so noble the man. Even when you couldn't possibly be more wrong, you're right, right? I'll let you get back to your greatness.
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Medic, you're wasting your time. Any poster who gets mad and threatens to beat people up disqualifies himself from being part of this message board. Just ignore him.
 
Section22Sooner said:
Medic, you're wasting your time. Any poster who gets mad and threatens to beat people up disqualifies himself from being part of this message board. Just ignore him.
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This would be your most adult commentary you've made in a while. Medic used to offer this advice. By the way, I've never said the sky was purple. It's more or less a hint of red, more like Crimson.
 
sybarite said:
I think I've already suggested some regulations. I suspect that we will eventually impose more extensive background checks, and I would anticipate that a lot of the open carry of handguns will be regulated. Although not a lot of AK47s are used in murders, the damage when they are used would be limited if the AK47 had not been the weapon. The mass murder situations like schools and theaters are more difficult if the available weapon is a shotgun or rifle.

You fell a little into the "plaino"-type language when you spoke of leftists wanting gun regulation. A lot of the push is being made by law enforcement agencies who don't want to be facing automatic weapons. These are hardly leftist.

Although this is not likely to come up in the near future, constitutional scholars are definitely not in agreement about the meaning of the second amendment wording, "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Does this mean that individuals are granted the right to bear arms? Does it mean that the right to bear arms has something to do with a militia? Does it assume that the reason for bearing arms is the necessity of a militia for the security of free state? There are a lot of questions that are not resolved, and it is not exactly clear what the intent was when the amendment was written. This is not settled law and will likely undergo a good number of court decisions in the future. Don't forget that "conservative" presidents have proposed gun control. It isn't necessarily a leftist issue.
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Actually, Plaino's commentary of Liberalism I pointed out was misplaced in the Mixon thread.

Now regarding police. I'm not sure where you getting your data. there may be some Police Chiefs that would openly state for purposes of PR. Perhaps, maybe it's just Oklahoma & Texas, but street cops have told me that protecting myself with a firearm is important. Here's aquote from the Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke,
"To me [gun confiscation] would be an act of tyranny. So the people in Milwaukee County do not have to worry about me enforcing some sort of order that goes out and collects everybody’s handgun, or rifles, or any kind of firearm and makes them turn them in. The reason is I don’t want to get shot, because I believe that if somebody tried to enforce something of that magnitude, you would see the second coming of an American revolution, the likes of which would make the first revolution pale by comparison"

Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke on Gun Confiscation
 
WhyNotaSooner said:
Coming from you, I'd expect no less as you still believe 22 whopped up on me last week. You're not very objective and right on que...
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It's CUE.

And no, I'm not into message board "winning" like you. This board occupies zero space of my ego and I don't feel the need to be the message board martyr like you do.

I know your ego would love for the stupid shit you posted to be true, but it's not. My reply to your post had zero to do with 22 and everything to do with your nugget of wisdom.

So, message board Champ, relax, drink a brew, smoke a doobie, whatever you need to do. Stop letting this board get to you.

Section22Sooner said:
Any poster who gets mad and threatens to beat people up disqualifies himself from being part of this message board.
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I forgot about that. It was worth a laugh then and worth a laugh now. The toughness was palpable.
 
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Medic007 said:
It's CUE.

And no, I'm not into message board "winning" like you. This board occupies zero space of my ego and I don't feel the need to be the message board martyr like you do.

I know your ego would love for the stupid shit you posted to be true, but it's not. My reply to your post had zero to do with 22 and everything to do with your nugget of wisdom.

So, message board Champ, relax, drink a brew, smoke a doobie, whatever you need to do. Stop letting this board get to you.


I forgot about that. It was worth a laugh then and worth a laugh now. The toughness was palpable.
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Your actions and posts on many things do not reflect your post as written above. "Zero Space", but yet you & 22 are becoming the Yank/BW tag team of 2015. In seperable. But I guess you feel that it's a necessary for the need to 'group' togehter in an effort to assist in each of your weak commentaries.

And if you actually laughed at 22's commentary regarding me, you have a weak sense of humor.

Further, this board is open to all posters and as such, 22 can not control content as bad as he still wishes to. To the point, he ran to the hills when it things got tough for him a year ago. I still chuckle on this one. He's become the poster of all the things he and several others fought hard to 'keep' out as wannabe gatekeepers back in the day. Now he's part of the same.

Winning!
 
WhyNotaSooner said:
Your actions and posts on many things do not reflect your post as written above. "Zero Space", but yet you & 22 are becoming the Yank/BW tag team of 2015. In seperable. But I guess you feel that it's a necessary for the need to 'group' togehter in an effort to assist in each of your weak commentaries.

And if you actually laughed at 22's commentary regarding me, you have a weak sense of humor.

Further, this board is open to all posters and as such, 22 can not control content as bad as he still wishes to. To the point, he ran to the hills when it things got tough for him a year ago. I still chuckle on this one. He's become the poster of all the things he and several others fought hard to 'keep' out as wannabe gatekeepers back in the day. Now he's part of the same.

Winning!
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wnas you are now advocating that the board is open to all posters?? You are being such a hypocrite considering your previous mod experience
 
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wnas you are now advocating that the board is open to all posters?? You are being such a hypocrite considering your previous mod experience
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It was indeed open for all posters that posted content within the rules. You didn't. You were bounced. By several mods. Not just me. It is what it is. But my point is 22 thinks and openly posts that he can disqualify posters of the board. As bad as he wants to, he can't, all he do these days are attempt to shun them. Which is no biggee for me as I'm not a groupie of him anyway.
 
WhyNotaSooner said:
To the point, he ran to the hills when it things got tough for him a year ago. I still chuckle on this one.
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What did I run from? How did things get tough for me? Tell me what your drugged-up narcissistic brain remembers. Spin up another BS story. I'd like to read all about it.

By my own decision, I took the 2014 FB season off from this board. It is no secret. I've mentioned it numerous times that I had only the time to watch and listen to games and the coaches shows. Not much more. And it was bliss. I'll probably do it again, although my schedule is opened up much more this fall and winter.

As for your threats of a physical confrontation with Medic and me, I could go back an hit the "report" button, but I've never ratted on a poster before and don't plan to start. You tend to get the admin's attention without anybody's help. You have quite a history here.
 
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Your actions and posts on many things do not reflect your post as written above. "Zero Space", but yet you & 22 are becoming the Yank/BW tag team of 2015. In seperable. But I guess you feel that it's a necessary for the need to 'group' togehter in an effort to assist in each of your weak commentaries.

And if you actually laughed at 22's commentary regarding me, you have a weak sense of humor.

Further, this board is open to all posters and as such, 22 can not control content as bad as he still wishes to. To the point, he ran to the hills when it things got tough for him a year ago. I still chuckle on this one. He's become the poster of all the things he and several others fought hard to 'keep' out as wannabe gatekeepers back in the day. Now he's part of the same.

Winning!
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It bothers you that I've got you pegged. How a man can derive any self worth/esteem from a message board is beyond me. But you've obviously got it figured out. Losing your status as a mod, by Mike no less, was the start of the slide for you. I actually feel bad for you. As in pity.

Hey 22, we can call off the plot to control the board. He's got us figured out.
 
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WhyNotaSooner said:
It was indeed open for all posters that posted content within the rules. You didn't. You were bounced. By several mods. Not just me. It is what it is. But my point is 22 thinks and openly posts that he can disqualify posters of the board. As bad as he wants to, he can't, all he do these days are attempt to shun them. Which is no biggee for me as I'm not a groupie of him anyway.
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You are full of crap wnas. You banned me and ran for cover because you knew it was totally bogus. Now you wanna cry when you get called out for all your nonsense...pretty funny.
 
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You are full of crap wnas. You banned me and ran for cover because you knew it was totally bogus. Now you wanna cry when you get called out for all your nonsense...pretty funny.
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Believe as you wish, but it doesn't make it true nor does it change things now. BTW, I enjoyed the hell out of sending you packing and watching you cozy up to the Horns. Now that's what was funny.
 
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Let's lay off wnas and take into consideration he is probably high as a kite when he comments such silly things. His claim to fame was being a mod of a small ou message board. The result? He was fired hahaha I'm sorry I can't stop laughing at that. Someone find jobea so we can really get the jokes going
 
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Yankees03 said:
Let's lay off wnas and take into consideration he is probably high as a kite when he comments such silly things. His claim to fame was being a mod of a small ou message board. The result? He was fired hahaha I'm sorry I can't stop laughing at that. Someone find jobea so we can really get the jokes going
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Watching you squirm the Horn board was a treat as well. :cool:
 
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/02/did-gun-control-work-in-australia

The Australian program was a buy-back of automatic weapons, not all weapons. It has worked effectively to reduce suicides. Murders have declined by about fifty percent. The statistics around the urder rate are not statistically significant due to a rather low murder rate i Australia to begin with. About a third of the guns in Australia were "bought back." At the time, a conservative was the leader of Australia, and he had the support of about ninety percent of the public due to some mass shootings. What is interesting and is of note is that there have been no mass shootings in Australia since the buyback.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...8458dc-0c09-11e3-8974-f97ab3b3c677_story.html
 
I remember living in Chicago when they were doing this. Buy backs. They would take thousands of guns off the streets by buying these guns from anyone that turned them in. It was FREE money to thugs. It got to the point that thugs were robbing houses of guns for the buy back and the cash.

Therein lies the problem, murders are still going to happen. Suicides might drop, but personally I don't care about that number. Thugs will still get posession of weapons. I do not wish to live in a society that thugs and police have guns and the good guys don't.

I won't be giving up my guns anytime soon. For any reason to any particular flavor of the month/year politician.
 
Oh I know it gets to you. Lol. Guess what wnas? Since u had a nap nothing has changed, you still got fired from a volunteer job hahahaha. Oh man that will always be funny
 
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WhyNotaSooner said:
I remember living in Chicago when they were doing this. Buy backs. They would take thousands of guns off the streets by buying these guns from anyone that turned them in. It was FREE money to thugs. It got to the point that thugs were robbing houses of guns for the buy back and the cash.

Therein lies the problem, murders are still going to happen. Suicides might drop, but personally I don't care about that number. Thugs will still get posession of weapons. I do not wish to live in a society that thugs and police have guns and the good guys don't.

I won't be giving up my guns anytime soon. For any reason to any particular flavor of the month/year politician.
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WNaS,

Am I reading you correctly? Your, "I do not wish to live in a society that thugs and police have guns and the good guys don't", indicates you believe the police are not the good guys? Really?

That's pretty warped. Do you lump the military in with the thugs and police as being the bad guys?

Boomer Sooner
 
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You have to be careful with who is generating the information and the graphs. In this study, murder rates correlate with gun ownership.
http://www.objectobot.com/?p=458

There has been a major thrust to attempt to disguise any link between guns and murder.
 
sybarite said:
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You have to be careful with who is generating the information and the graphs. In this study, murder rates correlate with gun ownership.
http://www.objectobot.com/?p=458

There has been a major thrust to attempt to disguise any link between guns and murder.
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Yes you do have to be careful. You posted a graph with Wikipedia listed as the source and no X or Y axis labels and no data point labels. Being an academic type guy, I'll stick with the labeled graph.
 
fortworth4ou2 said:
WNaS,

Am I reading you correctly? Your, "I do not wish to live in a society that thugs and police have guns and the good guys don't", indicates you believe the police are not the good guys? Really?

That's pretty warped. Do you lump the military in with the thugs and police as being the bad guys?

Boomer Sooner
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I can see that how that reads when I look back at it, but no that's not what I meant. In fact my son is in law enforcement. Simply put, I don't wish to be part of a police state and armed thugs.
 
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sybarite said:
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You have to be careful with who is generating the information and the graphs. In this study, murder rates correlate with gun ownership.
http://www.objectobot.com/?p=458

There has been a major thrust to attempt to disguise any link between guns and murder.
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I don't buy into the 'other country' theories. By contolling guns you appear to wish to control deaths by those that are mentally unstable, thugs, crazies. There's a part of me in which I personally do not care if any of these types live or die. The issues I see firsthand is not with gun ownership but with mental illness in tho country and the inabilities of many to wish to control this segment of the population. It's becoming disturbing.
 
Yankees03 said:
Coming from you that's comical. You are still fired son! Lol
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OK, your added the first on the ignore list. I have nothing to lose and all to gain as you never ever bring anything of substance to the board.

Piss off.
 
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fortworth4ou2 said:
WNaS,

Am I reading you correctly? Your, "I do not wish to live in a society that thugs and police have guns and the good guys don't", indicates you believe the police are not the good guys? Really?

That's pretty warped. Do you lump the military in with the thugs and police as being the bad guys?

Boomer Sooner
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Now... fortworth, here's a question for you... At what point does the good guys become the bad guys, if ever. Meaning... when the police and/or military (the good guys) that take direction from their brass who take direction from the govt., and then they come after your gun(s). Are they still the good guys or do they become the bad guys? Or in your view, do they always remain the good guys?
 
What do u bring? Lol. Your stance on why u do illegal drugs, your threats of wanting to fight people from the board or ur conspiracy as to why u got fired from ur job as a mod. There's a reason view you as a loser lol. Enjoy your fake ignore
 
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