Mixon tape to be released. Get ready for the onslaught.

[WhyNotaSooner]

Brace yourselves Sooners. Looks like the video of Joe Mixon punching the female student is about to released to the public.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/court-rules-release-video-oklahoma-213300992.html

From a legal stand point, I'm curious as to how a government's court, be it local, state, or federal can remove the ownership title of an item that is privately owned. In this case the video. Then claim the video to be used for public consumption. Strange. Perhaps, the owner of the video has wanted to share the video publicly all along, only to be stopped by Mixon's attorneys. So they (the owner) sued & finally won the right to do with the video as they wish.

I don't blame OU admin, Stoops or the such for this tragic event. They dealt with this straight up, kick the kid off the team for a full year. Having curfews on incoming freshmen over this one strange unique case is not the way to handle this going forward. From Frshmen to Senoirs, they are all team and should all have equal discipline. There have been hundreds, thousands of freshmen that have never face clocked a female before this. And I'm thinking that OU will have hundreds more come through without ever having issues like this repeat.

OU will survive, as will Mixon. Through the eyes of quite a few, the video might just exonerate Mixon in that he was provoked. I hope he keeps his head down... again and uses this to once again focus his energies and has a huge year for OU.

 

[Gramps]

If curfews were for all freshman athletes at all colleges, what's the issue ?
Joe Mixon came to OU with no previous character issues in high school reported. No one saw his problem coming. But had he been in his dorm room at midnight that fateful night, the event wouldn't have happened. And OU would have been spared the huge task of image fixing which now looks to raise its ugly head again 18 months after the event.
Mixon, like all OU athletes, is not just an average freshman. He's a boy in a man's body with very high expectations put upon him to perform at a high level in front of thousands. He represents his team, the coaches, OU and himself....unlike the average freshman....and he and his teammates need to recognize this.
It may be time to instill in young kids that certain forms of discipline help to make them more responsible adults, which makes them better people. They can't go through life thinking things should be given to them on a silver platter, or that there are not consequences for making stupid and careless decisions even with celebrity status.
I can't help wondering how Mixon would be regarded had he been a walk-on player (or a tennis player or golfer) at OU, instead of a highly recruited running back.

Good question CT. This goes for every school. Brown kicked a player off for hitting a UT tennis player. CS kicked two off for rape charges. They where found not guilty. He didn't let them back on the team. Mixon was basically red shirted.
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[JConXtsy]

From a legal stand point, I'm curious as to how a government's court, be it local, state, or federal can remove the ownership title of an item that is privately owned. In this case the video. Then claim the video to be used for public consumption. Strange. Perhaps, the owner of the video has wanted to share the video publicly all along, only to be stopped by Mixon's attorneys. So they (the owner) sued & finally won the right to do with the video as they wish.

It's very clear why this video is being released publicly. The video was used in court as evidence in a criminal case. The use of the video in court makes it public.
They tried to illegally withhold it from the public, so the media requested that the courts release the video. A judge decided that he'd let certain members of the media see the video and that would be good enough. An appeals court said, nope, that's not good enough. It's public property now.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Good question CT. This goes for every school. Brown kicked a player off for hitting a UT tennis player. CS kicked two off for rape charges. They where found not guilty. He didn't let them back on the team. Mixon was basically red shirted.
.

Gosh just if every university and head coach had the morality and fortitude for justice like the University of Hey Watch Out for That Apartment Complex...

...I mean, Texas.

 

[Gramps]

Gosh just if every university and head coach had the morality and fortitude for justice like the University of Hey Watch Out for That Apartment Complex...

...I mean, Texas.

I was just trying to make a point. Read CT post.
at all colleges, what's the issue ?
Joe Mixon came to OU with no previous character issues in high school reported. No one saw his problem coming. But had he been in his dorm room at midnight that fateful night, the event wouldn't have happened. And OU would have been spared the huge task of image fixing which now looks to raise its ugly head again 18 months after the event.
Mixon, like all OU athletes, is not just an average freshman. He's a boy in a man's body with very high expectations put upon him to perform at a high level in front of thousands. He represents his team, the coaches, OU and himself....unlike the average freshman....and he and his teammates need to recognize this.
It may be time to instill in young kids that certain forms of discipline help to make them more responsible adults, which makes them better people. They can't go through life thinking things should be given to them on a silver platter, or that there are not consequences for making stupid and careless decisions even with celebrity status.
I can't help wondering how Mixon would be regarded had he been a walk-on player (or a tennis player or golfer) at OU, instead of a highly recruited running back.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Meh... OU's image is not and will not be tarnished because of this. Perhaps maybe to those w/ rabid anti Sooner sentiments. But the facts are these types (Gramps) are already biased and are looking for reasoning to justify their thoughts. When it's all said & done, OU will actually look good. Incoming kid hits female, Stoops kicks him off team w/ stipulations upon return, kid answers the call, leaves as a model student and citizen of the community. Rabid anti- Sooner sentiments will still continue to rag, while the rest of the world moves on.

 

[JConXtsy]

I can't help wondering how Mixon would be regarded had he been a walk-on player (or a tennis player or golfer) at OU, instead of a highly recruited running back.

Would have been different, of course, just as it would be in "real life" and should be.
Just like you hire chumps in any industry on a probationary period or as contractors, but you hire highly skilled and regarded personnel directly and without a probationary period.
If you have a clock-puncher Joe Schmoe and an executive working for you, and they both go out and get DWIs or some drug offense, you fire Joe Schmoe on the spot and you simply have a conversation with the executive to see if everything is OK. That's real life. Protect your investments.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Love that post JCon. Reality ain't fair. Most can't handle it and we see that trend growing stronger and stronger in American culture. Everybody special. Everybody gets a trophy. Everybody is important.

Joe Schmoe doesn't want to admit he's not better, smarter, more qualified or doesn't work as hard as the guy that gets the special treatment.

 

[CTOkie]

I understand there is no way anyone could have seen something like this coming. Nobody can predict how a person is going to react in a situation like that until they are confronted with it. But life is a series of lessons you learn as you get older. Mixon learned his lesson his first year on campus about how NOT to react to a situation like that. Simply putting a curfew on the kid doesn't guarantee he wouldn't be faced with a similar situation in upcoming years while at OU. So if he had no moral compass as a freshman on how to handle a chick getting in his face and getting physical in that manner, then that lack of moral compass is still there as a sophomore, junior, etc. Because everyone who enjoyed drinking and partying at that age knows, going out to bars and clubs there are always going to be situations like what happened with Mixon. It's unavoidable. Besides, curfews don't prevent situations like this anyways. Alcohol related events and/or disagreements like this happen 24/7. But I'm just not a fan of increasing controls on kids because of isolated events of teenagers making wrong decisions. At some point you have to let them live their lives and sometimes learn right from wrong the hard way.

Putting curfews aside, as well as any defense on behalf of Mixon, Stoops or OU, it is my hope that lessons were learned from this event....that somehow, someway, this won't happen again. But that's like hoping for statesmanship in current politics.
it's not about "increasing controls on kids". I'm advocating just a few rules and regulations on kids with huge egos and a sense of entitlement coming onto campus. Putting a curfew on incoming freshman might convey to them that there is at least one "moral compass" in the world outside of high school....in the real world. I'm not advocating OU becoming a monastery here.

 

[Gramps]

Meh... OU's image is not and will not be tarnished because of this. Perhaps maybe to those w/ rabid anti Sooner sentiments. But the facts are these types (Gramps) are already biased and are looking for reasoning to justify their thoughts. When it's all said & done, OU will actually look good. Incoming kid hits female, Stoops kicks him off team w/ stipulations upon return, kid answers the call, leaves as a model student and citizen of the community. Rabid anti- Sooner sentiments will still continue to rag, while the rest of the world moves on.

You missed my whole point. Most of my post was a quote made by CT. His quotes are not biased.

 

[Plainosooner]

Why didn't kick him off the team? Most coaches would.

I am pretty sure Texas wouldn't.

This wasn't some series of bad behavior. This was a one time occurrence with a woman who hit him twice first and used the N word multiple times.

Not claiming that Joe is some innocent victim in this. But he certainly didn't do something that should prohibit him from ever playing again. Most of us believe that everybody deserves a second chance, after dealing with whatever penalty was dished out. Joe did that.

If he screws up again, there would be a pretty short leash and should be. But he also should be allowed to resume his career. Even Longhorns believe in second chances.

 

[Plainosooner]

I was just trying to make a point. Read CT post.
at all colleges, what's the issue ?
Joe Mixon came to OU with no previous character issues in high school reported. No one saw his problem coming. But had he been in his dorm room at midnight that fateful night, the event wouldn't have happened. And OU would have been spared the huge task of image fixing which now looks to raise its ugly head again 18 months after the event.
Mixon, like all OU athletes, is not just an average freshman. He's a boy in a man's body with very high expectations put upon him to perform at a high level in front of thousands. He represents his team, the coaches, OU and himself....unlike the average freshman....and he and his teammates need to recognize this.
It may be time to instill in young kids that certain forms of discipline help to make them more responsible adults, which makes them better people. They can't go through life thinking things should be given to them on a silver platter, or that there are not consequences for making stupid and careless decisions even with celebrity status.
I can't help wondering how Mixon would be regarded had he been a walk-on player (or a tennis player or golfer) at OU, instead of a highly recruited running back.

It was his birthday and it was the summertime a month before school started. August practice hadn't started. Your comprehension of the situation is non existent, except for your bias against OU. He wasn't redshirted. He had to stay away from the practice field and the program for the entire season. That's not redshirting.

I'm wondering still what your view of Brock Edwards was, when he beat up a guy, almost killing him.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Why didn't kick him off the team? Most coaches would.

Baylor players rape people and don't get suspended, so you are obviously out of your element, Whorn...

 

[sooner_mike]

It's very clear why this video is being released publicly. The video was used in court as evidence in a criminal case. The use of the video in court makes it public.
They tried to illegally withhold it from the public, so the media requested that the courts release the video. A judge decided that he'd let certain members of the media see the video and that would be good enough. An appeals court said, nope, that's not good enough. It's public property now.

And the courts no longer have a copy of the video. Also Picklemans destroyed the only copy available. They said that their corporate office ruled against letting the public see the vedio. The public as much as they like to be nosey will never see the tape of the Mixon incident period. It has been said that the DA might have a copy, but even if they did it is the property of Pickelman, and wouldn't be released to the public but only to the original own.

 

[Senior Sooner]

I agree with this comment...The Joe Mixon Tape is no longer about Joe Mixon...

http://newsok.com/article/5480721?utm_source=NewsOK.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign

 

[Schoonerman]

Guess I was wrong about that "onslaught." But, there is a lot of time between now and the second Saturday in October.

 

[bcsoonerfan]

Guess I was wrong about that "onslaught." But, there is a lot of time between now and the second Saturday in October.

I figure at least 5 to 7 Horns would show up for this.

 

[Tic-Toc-Tic-Toc]

I figure at least 5 to 7 Horns would show up for this.

They're too busy trying to figure out how to defend Core Values Charlie for his apparent indiscretions. So far, they've decided he's only guilty of obstructing a passageway...

 

[SoonerTulsan]

I figure at least 5 to 7 Horns would show up for this.

blh was the sacrificial point man. Once they saw he got the crap beat out of him they aborted the mission.

 

[Gramps]

I am pretty sure Texas wouldn't.

This wasn't some series of bad behavior. This was a one time occurrence with a woman who hit him twice first and used the N word multiple times.

Not claiming that Joe is some innocent victim in this. But he certainly didn't do something that should prohibit him from ever playing again. Most of us believe that everybody deserves a second chance, after dealing with whatever penalty was dished out. Joe did that.

If he screws up again, there would be a pretty short leash and should be. But he also should be allowed to resume his career. Even Longhorns believe in second chances.

They kicked Jones off the team for hitting a tennis player.

 

[trademarcs]

Whorn spin......Mixon, DGB, Shannon all should have been removed from the teams for discrepancies against women, but if CS had an affair while at Louisville, he made a mistake and deserves another chance. LOL, what a bunch of hypocrites. Texas, a whole other planet down there.

 

[Tic-Toc-Tic-Toc]

They kicked Jones off the team for hitting a tennis player.

No he wasn't kicked off the team. He was suspended then reinstated in June of that year. He was going to miss the first game of the season against New Mexico state as punishment. He transferred to Arizona in August of 2013.

Revisionist stories can be entertaining if used in the appropriate setting. Unfortunately for you, you are trying to pass the story revision off as fact, so I felt compelled to chime in and call you on your BS.

Carry on.

 

[Plainosooner]

They kicked Jones off the team for hitting a tennis player.

I believe we're very likely talking apples and oranges. But if you're right, and that was his only issue, then Charlie did the wrong thing. My strong suspicion is that it was part of a pattern of behavior.

Mixon's pattern showed this to be an aberration.... that cost him a year.

 

[JConXtsy]

And now the tape remains sealed....

http://collegespun.com/big-12/oklah...les-the-joe-mixon-punch-tape-will-stay-sealed

 

[sooner_mike]

And now the tape remains sealed....

http://collegespun.com/big-12/oklah...les-the-joe-mixon-punch-tape-will-stay-sealed

I told you guys from the beginning of this thread that no one in the public would view that tape. Hope that puts and end to this thread. Lol

 

[Oklabama]

Hope that puts and end to this thread. Lol

Yes! Good news for all involved and Sooner fans everywhere.

 

[humblesooner]

Interesting that the City Attorney has a copy.
As long as he has a copy, there is a possibility that it will be made public someday.
You would think, if it wasn't to be used as evidence, they would return it/get rid of it.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

From a legal stand point, I'm curious as to how a government's court, be it local, state, or federal can remove the ownership title of an item that is privately owned. In this case the video. Then claim the video to be used for public consumption. Strange.

 

[MiccoMacey]

Joe Mixon came to OU with no previous character issues in high school reported. No one saw his problem coming. But had he been in his dorm room at midnight that fateful night, the event wouldn't have happened. And OU would have been spared the huge task of image fixing which now looks to raise its ugly head again 18 months after the event.

The curfew issue is a non-starter. The time had zero to do with his actions. Unless you're stating that something like that couldn't happen prior to curfew time, which we all know it could. What if this had happened at 7:30 pm at the student union on campus? Then what?

If coaches just want to have a curfew, then fine. I understand that the later it becomes, the less positive things that can arise. It's been said before, the only two things open after 2:00 am are legs and jail.

The coaches and legal system fixated (appropriately) on his actions, took all things into account, and came up with a punishment. Whether you and I agree or disagree on the level of punishment meted out is irrelevant. It's already been adjudicated, the punishment has been dished out, and it's time to move on.