Long term friendships on this board

[bullmarket]

There are many people I have known on this board for many many years who I truly care about them and their families . Its silly to jeopardize long term board friendships over politics or other controversial issues in our country.

I will now and in the future only talk about Sooner sports or personal things in our friends lives if they ask us to do so on this board.

Just like with my friend Sean Medic, I truly feel he helped saved the life of my wife. with his medical expertise. Also I have gained a lot talking to my great friend Gary iasooner on the phone for several years and others by e-mail,
I hope Steve Section 22 reads this as his friendship is very important to me.

I hope all of us no longer talk about anything controversial on this Sooner message board. Its not worth it to destroy board friendships.

Thanks

BOOMER SOONER!

 

[BillyRay]

It's easy to let emotions get out of control when discussing politics. Geez especially in today's world.
I get into arguments and disagreements with one friends outside of this board. Hell me and the wife have brutal disagreements from time to time!! Lol. But in the end you can't allow it to jeopardize friendships and relationships. Just agree to disagree and move on in life.
Cuz whatever we disagree about today, something else in the future will pop up and you find you completely agree with the same person on that issue. No reason to harbor hard feelings that's for sure.

Great thread Bull with several threads on the front page discussing a very heated topic in this country these days.

 

[Senior Sooner]

Thanks, Gentlemen, for both of your comments...

 

[Medic007]

There are many people I have known on this board for many many years who I truly care about them and their families . Its silly to jeopardize long term board friendships over politics or other controversial issues in our country.

I will now and in the future only talk about Sooner sports or personal things in our friends lives if they ask us to do so on this board.

Just like with my friend Sean Medic, I truly feel he helped saved the life of my wife. with his medical expertise. Also I have gained a lot talking to my great friend Gary iasooner on the phone for several years and others by e-mail,

I hope all of us no longer talk about anything controversial on this Sooner message board. Its not worth it to destroy board friendships.

Thanks

BOOMER SOONER!

bull, I'll only speak for myself, but politics would never ruin a friendship for me. All people will disagree over something, even lifelong friends. A true friend won't dump you over political beliefs, sports rivalries, choice in music, etc. I have friends across the entire political spectrum and even college team spectrum. I enjoy hearing different views even if I don't agree with them.

That said, some people are as passionate about their politics as they are college sports and religion, which is why we should just stick to college sports on this board since that's the topic by design.

 

[CTOkie]

To fight and feud here is playing into the hands of the media propaganda we are being fed daily. The media's goal is no longer to inform but to divide and indoctrinate.

 

[iasooner1]

Hell Tom & I have been through it all for almost 50 years. I put up with his Todd Rundgren Utopia while he 'enjoyed' my Kansas albums just about as much...

 

[pssooner]

Hell Tom & I have been through it all for almost 50 years. I put up with his Todd Rundgren Utopia while he 'enjoyed' my Kansas albums just about as much...

i could listen to both for the rest of my day's!!!!!!!

 

[bcsoonerfan]

To often people take it personal when someone disagrees with their beliefs or opinions. It doesn't have to be that way. It's a funny thing watching somebody get upset when another questions their opinion as if they're saying they aren't entitled to one, all the while telling that person they're wrong and should shut up. Irony.

 

[veritas59]

To often people take it personal when someone disagrees with their beliefs or opinions. It doesn't have to be that way. It's a funny thing watching somebody get upset when another questions their opinion as if they're saying they aren't entitled to one, all the while telling that person they're wrong and should shut up. Irony.

I have no issue with differing opinions/conclusions based upon a given set of data/facts, but I have zero tolerance for spreading misinformation, or outright lies. It's as simple as that.

 

[OhYouSooner]

Its much bigger than posts on this board. This country has never been so divided. Can you really see things changing back? We already see riots, protests, mass killings, overturned police cars, burning buildings, etc. We are two separate countries living together.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Ah, the memories. I remember how sensitive I was at the age of seventeen. I survived the third mile walk among the buffalo at the Wichita Wildlife Refuge at age 17. The world changes. Politics? No sensitivity for me. I can debate with the best. What was our coach's name who became head coach at Kansas? He always made me think of the old Comanche who coached my walk among the buffalo. I guess some of the Kansas players never could have cut it with the Quahada Comanches.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Hell Tom & I have been through it all for almost 50 years. I put up with his Todd Rundgren Utopia while he 'enjoyed' my Kansas albums just about as much...

Don't you cry no more...

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

 

[bcsoonerfan]

I have no issue with differing opinions/conclusions based upon a given set of data/facts, but I have zero tolerance for spreading misinformation, or outright lies. It's as simple as that.

Yea it should be. But everybody wants to jump to conclusions that fit their narrative.

 

[OUnabomber]

Its much bigger than posts on this board. This country has never been so divided. Can you really see things changing back? We already see riots, protests, mass killings, overturned police cars, burning buildings, etc. We are two separate countries living together.

Its been this way since the Bush Gore election. Its gradually gotten worse

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Its been this way since the Bush Gore election. Its gradually gotten worse

It's Ross Perot's fault.

 

[opk]

Ah, the memories. I remember how sensitive I was at the age of seventeen. I survived the third mile walk among the buffalo at the Wichita Wildlife Refuge at age 17. The world changes. Politics? No sensitivity for me. I can debate with the best. What was our coach's name who became head coach at Kansas? He always made me think of the old Comanche who coached my walk among the buffalo. I guess some of the Kansas players never could have cut it with the Quahada Comanches.

Could you have meant Ted Owens? Ha, not many here have memories that go back that far.

 

[Senior Sooner]

Could you have meant Ted Owens? Ha, not many here have memories that go back that far.

I haven't read his book, but I realllllllly like the Title...Will follow up, for sure!
http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/fea...cle_5bb595f3-504d-5f08-a71f-8a79c3a60833.html

 

[Oklabama]

It's Ross Perot's fault.

Every time I have voted for the independent I’ve lost. What’s up with that? Maybe one day that cycle will change and give the country a chance to come together, but someone better than that nut Gary Johnson has to run.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Every time I have voted for the independent I’ve lost. What’s up with that? Maybe one day that cycle will change and give the country a chance to come together, but someone better than that nut Gary Johnson has to run.

And that's the reason I wrote in on the last ballot... He can go "Bake that cake," I'm not going to...

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Mangino was the coach. He took the Jayhawkers to the Orange Bowl and won. Mangino always reminded me of my Comanche "coach". I understand Mangino hurt the feelings of some Kansas football players and was fired. Today Kansas football can barely compete with Moody High.

 

[iasooner1]

Sunburnt this is not meant as a slight to your ancestors but what does your DNA testing point to as to "who were here first" ? Eastern Asian Bearing strait migration of 20,000 years ago or some form of South American migration northward ? Just wondering what you think. Tecumseh was a great forward thinker for the Cherokee

 

[Schoonerman]

Gary (iasooner) and I go back to junior year at Hale H.S. in Tulsa. We lived together with another friend right after H.S. and we put up with each other's musical tastes, but we all agreed that Led Zep's "Physical Graffiti" rocked the house and we wore out the grooves on that LP!

 

[iasooner1]

Yep and it's closer to 45 than 50 years (my bad) but we always had each other's back ! Our's was a veritable Love Shack years before that album came out...

 

[bullmarket]

Sunburnt this is not meant as a slight to your ancestors but what does your DNA testing point to as to "who were here first" ? Eastern Asian Bearing strait migration of 20,000 years ago or some form of South American migration northward ? Just wondering what you think. Tecumseh was a great forward thinker for the Cherokee

Gary, I always thought that American Indians were on our land first. As far back as the explorers who came to our land when it was unpopulated, they were met by the Indians who were here. My guess is that the cavemen were American Indians.
In my mind the American Indian is the only group that was here until others of us were from immigrants who showed up on America soil.

The rest of us came here as immigrants.

Gary, what country did your family immigrate from?
Mine were from Ireland on my mothers side and my fathers side immigrated from Eastern Europe., My great grandparents migrated to NY and eventually to Oklahoma.

 

[iasooner1]

I'm a mutt mixture from Germany/France (Alsace-Lorraine), Holland, possibly a touch of Irish and maybe a tiny smidge Native American; mostly Western European. Great-grands on Dad's side were not in the run but homesteaded in Western OK in a mud hut, I'm told.
The 'native-americans' came here from Russia/Alaska or were immigrants from South America, possibly along Inca Roads

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Oops!

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Sunburnt this is not meant as a slight to your ancestors but what does your DNA testing point to as to "who were here first" ? Eastern Asian Bearing strait migration of 20,000 years ago or some form of South American migration northward ? Just wondering what you think. Tecumseh was a great forward thinker for the Cherokee

Every last one of us can be traced back to East Central Africa. Indigenous Americans carry the East Asian genes, especially Cherokee. Cherokee are believed to be last to walk across the Bering Strait to North America.

There are four family groups in the world. They are European Caucasian, Indigenous American, East Asian and Sub Saharan African. I am part of all 4 with about 9 percent East Asian. There are no known Chinese, Japanese or Vietnamese in my family tree. I am about 12 percent Indigenous American. Genelex Labs in Seattle did my DNA ethnicity testing from both parents.

My haplogroup testing was Y chromesome (paternal) Neanderthal/Viking. The Lab boys believe the Vikings drifted down from Greenland to Tennessee/Kentucky circa 1000's/1100's and bred with indigenous Americans. Viking descendants bred with Sub Saharan African slaves beginning in the 1600's.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

The first humans came to North America over the Bering Strait.

 

[iasooner1]

Yes and the way I read it we can be traced to a single original African female (Eve if you will)

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Correct, iasooner. The Bering Strait Bridge is theory but most scientists agree first humans came here from Asia. We are indeed brothers. You and I are of Sub Saharan African descent my sunburnt brother. You just happen to be a little more removed than I.

 

[iasooner1]

Yep. My maternal great, greats were Millers (by name & trade) from the Alsace region. One of the forefathers was a blacksmith named Blanck (which means white) in Southern Kansas near Wichita. They spoke German and French. Fathers side came to OK via Tenn or KY and texsa

 

[bullmarket]

I'm a mutt mixture from Germany/France (Alsace-Lorraine), Holland, possibly a touch of Irish and maybe a tiny smidge Native American; mostly Western European. Great-grands on Dad's side were not in the run but homesteaded in Western OK in a mud hut, I'm told.
The 'native-americans' came here from Russia/Alaska or were immigrants from South America, possibly along Inca Roads

The "Mutts mixture" are the best kind. We have two rescue dogs who are fantastic.

 

[MiccoMacey]

I’ve never gotten into the whole genealogy thing. I know where my Dad and Mom’s ancestors came from a few generations back, but not much more. Nor do I care to. It’s just not what interests me.

But my daughter did, and she did the “23 and me” DNA test. Which, I honestly believe that whole “send in your DNA to us and we’ll collect it for you” is the first step to Skynet coming to self actualization, but that’s another story. All that matters was that SHE enjoyed getting to know about her heritage(s). So it was worth it. And pretty much spot on from what my father told me about where I come from.

 

[CTOkie]

I have only a slight curiosity about my genealogy. Not enough to do a DNA test.
I know I am of English ancestry with some Indian (Chickasaw) from my mother's side. I was told that her ancestors survived the Trail of Tears forced relocation (1830-1850)....and settled in southern Oklahoma.

If I may rant:
It annoys me when the new generation of liberal historians declare that slavery was the ONLY cause of the Civil War....while demonizing the Southern cause and comparing it to the Third Reich under Hitler....and advocating the "sanitizing" of our history with the removal of Confederate statues and flags.
Never is there much outrage and hysteria over the genocide committed by our government on the American Indian...a genocide far more complete than any other time in history and one that still exists. The Negro slaves from Africa were mostly captured by stronger tribes and sold to white settlers who shipped them to the American colonies. The American Indians were invaded in their homeland and subjected to genocide by the same same government that fought a costly war that ended slavery.

 

[iasooner1]

"Manifest Destiny"

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Use care when selecting DNA testing. $99 Ancestry is nothing more than one's haplogroup. Most U. S. Nationals are Western Europe. Most of us can look in the mirror and make that determination. Oprah Winfrey and I used Genelex Labs in Seattle, but we shelled out in the neighborhood of $600. Genelex no longer does ethnicity DNA testing. Today Family Tree has various grades of testing and of course the more one pays more accuracy. I'm probably about to spring for $199 to Family Tree for #1 son ethnicity testing from both parents. I know 1/2 of kid's make up. I'd like to know the half from spouse.

 

[bullmarket]

I had my DNA checked and I thought that I was 100% Sooner.

After about two weeks I got my results back and I was shocked.....really shocked!

They said I was 95% Sooner and 5% Longhorn.

I going to go to an exorcist to rid my body of this 5% evil.

BOOMER SOONER!

 

[CTOkie]

You are what you are.
Deal with it.

 

[bullmarket]

You are what you are.
Deal with it.

No. Its not like I am 95% Sooner and 5% French or 95% Sooner and 5% Russian.
Since I am 95% Sooner and 5% Longhorn, I am getting rid of the 5% Evil so I won't have nightmares.