Chris Simms admits he took money from Longhorn boosters

[MiccoMacey]

Mississippi has 12 big boosters the NCAA is looking at.

The NCAA says Ole Miss has 21 violations of which 15 are Level 1 the most serious.

These are not 100 dollar handshakes but are big time bucks.

The head coach Freeze (now gone) had to know about it.

OU & OU coaches never has and never will be a part of a big time boosters scandal
giving large amounts of money to recruits and team players

This I am 100% certain

15 years ago, OU came down hard on Bomar & Davis and Big Red Auto when they learned about it.
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LINK MISSISSIPPI & MANY BOOSTERS & THE NCAA
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-of-boosters-in-ncaa-allegations/104088472/

All of which is irrelevant to Chris Simms' situation. Unless you can prove Mack Brown and his coaches knew there were rogue boosters giving out $100 handshakes. And that he failed to take action once he knew.

I applaud Coach Stoops on his toughness and the way he ran his program. He had many tough decisions to make regarding numerous legal, moral, and ethical happenings, and while I don't say I agree with all his decisions, I do believe he made those decisions with the best intentions for all involved. And for that I commend him.

But those rogue boosters who aided Bomar et al are far more akin to Simms' story in regards to boosters helping athletes without a coaching staff knowing about it than any of the red herring stuff you've thrown out there concerning Freeze, who knowingly and openly violated NCAA regulations.

 

[BillyRay]

To add to your great post J, if Chris Simms, the son of a wealthy former QB, was accepting money, just imagine how tempting it is when you come from nothing.

You're exactly right Medic. Some of these kids that grow up with next to nothing. Then they become a big-time recruit for a blue-blood program that has boosters coming out of the woodwork wanting to slip them free money. If I was in their shoes I would take that money in a heartbeat. I won't lie.

 

[iasooner1]

I wish I had the skills to get some of those; it would help with the stinking Cobra Continuation coverage bucks I'm paying out at this point

 

[bullmarket]

Uh, bull, OU has quite the history of big time booster scandals and the probations to prove it.

How many probations did OU have under Stoops?

Zero I think.

The last OU probation I remember was Kerry Jackson in 1973 (44 years ago.)

 

[Berryhillboomer]

Bullmarket i think you should just give up. You believe what you want and that's fine. However it's probably wrong.

 

[Oklabama]

How many probations did OU have under Stoops?

Zero I think.

The last OU probation I remember was Kerry Jackson in 1973 (44 years ago.)

Bull, not that it matters much to this thread, but Gary Gibbs coached the team when we were on probation for three years (1989-1991). And OU was on probation for two years under Bob (2008 and 2009).

 

[BillyRay]

Bull, not that it matters much to this thread, but Gary Gibbs coached the team when we were on probation for three years (1989-1991). And OU was on probation for two years under Bob (2008 and 2009).

Oklabama you beat me too it.

Not to mention, how many times was Texas on probation under Mack Brown. The answer to that one is actually...zero. Yet, here we are talking about $100 handshakes that happened during that time that never got reported. Hmmm....but apparently if it doesn't get reported it doesn't happen.....

 

[Oklabama]

Oklabama you beat me too it.

Not to mention, how many times was Texas on probation under Mack Brown. The answer to that one is actually...zero. Yet, here we are talking about $100 handshakes that happened during that time that never got reported. Hmmm....but apparently if it doesn't get reported it doesn't happen.....

That's the first time I ever beat you at anything. LOL

 

[Berryhillboomer]

Oklabama is becoming king of this board

 

[bullmarket]

Bull, not that it matters much to this thread, but Gary Gibbs coached the team when we were on probation for three years (1989-1991). And OU was on probation for two years under Bob (2008 and 2009).

Thanks my friend. What were we on probation for in 2008-2009?

It must have been minor because we were in a National Championship game after the 2008 season.

 

[Oklabama]

Thanks my friend. What were we on probation for in 2008-2009?

It must have been minor because we were in a National Championship game after the 2008 season.

It stemmed from the Bomar deal in 2005. I think it cost us 2 or 3 scholarships for 2008 and 2009, but I could be wrong. We got hit with a bigger penalty then won an appeal, which is the reason nothing happened until 2008.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Absolutely. Stoops being a strong disciplinarian would not tolerate this.

Look how quickly Bob responding with his axe to his starting QB Bomar.

Bob kicked his starting RB Damian Williams off of the team. Damian is still in the NFL

I believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy too.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

It's not that this happens everywhere that makes this a non story. Texas fans make the claim that it happens everywhere EXCEPT Texas. That's the story!

Big Deal. Bull says the same about OU.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Bob Stoops has proven what a strict disciplinarian he is and what a tight ship he runs so I believe this has not happened at OU

Mack Brown on the other hand let his kids do what they want and they were undisciplined. .

The proof for Mack and texas is..........
When Charlie Strong in 2014 took over at texas after Mack Brown got fired, , he promptly kicked at least 9 (maybe more) Mack players off of the texas team "for breaking team rules" including not going to class

Before you make a statement like you did about OU, please show some proof.
Saying "everybody does it" IS NOT PROOF. Because not everybody takes money from Boosters. Players today in college football get money now from their schools in addition to their scholarships paying for room and board and meals

And just recently Mississippi got caught with boosters giving money to players and Baylor's head coach Art Briles & the President of the University got fired for many problems with undisciplined players.

Bob and Joe C and David Boren run a very clean program at OU.They are strict disciplinarians. Guys like Frank Shannon (OU's leading tackler the year before) got kicked off of the team for a year involving Title 9. Boren even went to court against Frank Shannon to get him off of the team. Earlier Damian Williams OU's RB starter was kicked off of the OU team breaking team rules. Damian is now still in the NFL. Do you remember Damian's 95 yard run from scrimmage for a TD against texas

Knowing how Bob andJoe C and Boren run OU's sports programs, I would bet that there are not $100 dollar booster handshakes at OU.

And no, not "everybody does this."

Oh God.

 

[CTOkie]

It's probably a good idea to focus on the events at OU....only.

 

[Gramps]

Mississippi has 12 big boosters the NCAA is looking at.

The NCAA says Ole Miss has 21 violations of which 15 are Level 1 the most serious.

These are not 100 dollar handshakes but are big time bucks.

The head coach Freeze (now gone) had to know about it.

OU & OU coaches never has and never will be a part of a big time boosters scandal
giving large amounts of money to recruits and team players

This I am 100% certain

15 years ago, OU came down hard on Bomar & Davis and Big Red Auto when they learned about it.
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LINK MISSISSIPPI & MANY BOOSTERS & THE NCAA
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-of-boosters-in-ncaa-allegations/104088472/

LOL

 

[Gramps]

Mississippi has 12 big boosters the NCAA is looking at.

The NCAA says Ole Miss has 21 violations of which 15 are Level 1 the most serious.

These are not 100 dollar handshakes but are big time bucks.

The head coach Freeze (now gone) had to know about it.

OU & OU coaches never has and never will be a part of a big time boosters scandal
giving large amounts of money to recruits and team players

This I am 100% certain

15 years ago, OU came down hard on Bomar & Davis and Big Red Auto when they learned about it.
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LINK MISSISSIPPI & MANY BOOSTERS & THE NCAA
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-of-boosters-in-ncaa-allegations/104088472/

Bull it can happen at any school. Your living in a dream world.

 

[bullmarket]

Bull it can happen at any school. Your living in a dream world.

Yes the 100 dollar handshakes can happen anywhere but the large scale cheating that is happening at Ole Miss involving many boosters and obviously the head coach would not happen at OU.

 

[bullmarket]

Also Rogue Boosters & Rogue agents can get any team in trouble.

I remember the Miami Hurricanes who had a rogue booster giving money to many Cane players. I cannot remember if any Cane coach was aware of this.

Miami was put on probation because of this

 

[bullmarket]

Yes the 100 dollar handshakes can happen anywhere but the large scale cheating that is happening at Ole Miss involving many boosters and obviously the head coach would not happen at OU.

Also rogue boosters & rogue agents can get any team in trouble.

I remember the Miami Hurricanes who had a rogue booster giving money to many Cane players. I cannot remember if any Cane coach was aware of this.

Miami was put on probation because of this

 

[Gramps]

Yes the 100 dollar handshakes can happen anywhere but the large scale cheating that is happening at Ole Miss involving many boosters and obviously the head coach would not happen at OU.

Bull take a look at this.

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A few years ago when Southern California was placed on probation. Some people were surprised by the severity of the penalties (only USC fans, really). But in the report released by the NCAA, it was directly noted that the USC football program had previously been placed on probation five times since the early 1950s. I’m sure USC’s repeat violations had some impact on the severity of the penalties they received in 2010.

Listed below are the current FBS schools that have been placed on probation, in which the school’s football team was somehow involved. It’s important to keep in mind that violations in other sports often bring attention to a school’s entire athletic program. Sometimes the football violations paled in comparison to violations in other sports, but if the football program was involved I still listed them (i.e. Baylor’s probation from 2005-09).

College Football (FBS) Programs That Have Been Sanctioned the Most

Note: The count includes seasons not yet completed (i.e. USC 2012-2013).
Rk School Seasons Sanctioned
1 Southern Methodist (TX) 17 7
2 Southern California 15 6
3 Auburn (AL) 11 4
4t Alabama 10 3
4t Michigan St. 10 3
4t Oklahoma 10 5
7t Colorado 9 5
7t Illinois 9 5
7t Texas A&M 9 4
7t Wisconsin 9 4
11t Arizona St. 8 4
11t California 8 3
11t Cincinnati (OH) 8 4
11t Kansas 8 4
11t Kansas St. 8 4
11t Miami (FL) 8 3
11t Oklahoma St. 8 2
11t South Carolina 8 3
19t Florida Intl 7 2
19t Houston (TX) 7 3
19t Memphis (TN) 7 3
19t Mississippi 7 3
19t Mississippi St. 7 3
19t Ohio St. 7 3
19t Texas Tech 7 3

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[BillyRay]

Also Rogue Boosters & Rogue agents can get any team in trouble.

Well that's the whole point here. We aren't talking about whether Bob or JoeC would run a strict and disciplined program or not.

 

[Medic007]

Bull take a look at this.

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A few years ago when Southern California was placed on probation. Some people were surprised by the severity of the penalties (only USC fans, really). But in the report released by the NCAA, it was directly noted that the USC football program had previously been placed on probation five times since the early 1950s. I’m sure USC’s repeat violations had some impact on the severity of the penalties they received in 2010.

Listed below are the current FBS schools that have been placed on probation, in which the school’s football team was somehow involved. It’s important to keep in mind that violations in other sports often bring attention to a school’s entire athletic program. Sometimes the football violations paled in comparison to violations in other sports, but if the football program was involved I still listed them (i.e. Baylor’s probation from 2005-09).

College Football (FBS) Programs That Have Been Sanctioned the Most

Note: The count includes seasons not yet completed (i.e. USC 2012-2013).
Rk School Seasons Sanctioned
1 Southern Methodist (TX) 17 7
2 Southern California 15 6
3 Auburn (AL) 11 4
4t Alabama 10 3
4t Michigan St. 10 3
4t Oklahoma 10 5
7t Colorado 9 5
7t Illinois 9 5
7t Texas A&M 9 4
7t Wisconsin 9 4
11t Arizona St. 8 4
11t California 8 3
11t Cincinnati (OH) 8 4
11t Kansas 8 4
11t Kansas St. 8 4
11t Miami (FL) 8 3
11t Oklahoma St. 8 2
11t South Carolina 8 3
19t Florida Intl 7 2
19t Houston (TX) 7 3
19t Memphis (TN) 7 3
19t Mississippi 7 3
19t Mississippi St. 7 3
19t Ohio St. 7 3
19t Texas Tech 7 3

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Shouldn't you be on periodbloods.com? Go wrangle the tards on that cesspool of morons that has become unreadable to anyone with a single brain cell. We can handle our own here Gramps.

Oh, and yes, Texass does it too.

 

[Gramps]

Shouldn't you be on periodbloods.com? Go wrangle the tards on that cesspool of morons that has become unreadable to anyone with a single brain cell. We can handle our own here Gramps.

Oh, and yes, Texass does it too.

I never said they didn't. I said it happens at all schools.

 

[OUSOONER67]

I remember when the Bomar story made the papers. I worked for the biggest jerk I have ever worked for, he was also my first cousin. We met at a local diner to have breakfast and coffee every morning and that morning the Bomar story was in the paper, he had it on the table waiting for me at my seat when I arrived. I had not heard about it yet so it ruined my whole day which is why he did it. Anyway he is a huge Ole Miss fan and I hope that little thing called karma is biting him in the arse right now. Fans always think their teams program is immune to it or that their school is clean as a whistle. It happens everywhere. When I was young we lived in a small town and the HS football coach bought his star player a brand new Trans Am so his parents would not move to a larger town where he would have more exposure. This was around 1975. I have heard similar stories where it happens to this day. My point is athletes are given things even in HS so why would they not take things offered to them in College?

 

[Medic007]

I never said they didn't. I said it happens at all schools.

No, you actually said "it can happen at any school." That's different from "it happens at all schools."

That aside, us OU fans can police bullmarket very effectively. My message to you was that if you feel you need to do some tard wrangling, the girls over at the UTerus Rival's site could use your enthusiasm.

 

[Gramps]

No, you actually said "it can happen at any school." That's different from "it happens at all schools."

That aside, us OU fans can police bullmarket very effectively. My message to you was that if you feel you need to do some tard wrangling, the girls over at the UTerus Rival's site could use your enthusiasm.

lol

 

[Medic007]

lol

Just yanking your chain Gramps. How the heck are you? You and yours doing well?