Chris Simms admits he took money from Longhorn boosters

[bullmarket]

Somehow this does not surprise me. Chris said many others did the same thing, yet poooor texas still could not beat Oklahoma from 2000 to 2004, Five straight OU Red River Rivalry Wins!

Simms claimed "that boosters giving money to student-athletes happens all the time, and that it's "stupid" to think that it doesn't happen"

LINK......CHEATERS........
http://m.chron.com/sports/longhorns...admits-he-took-11882650.php?ipid=mobhappening

 

[BillyRay]

Happens everywhere. I don't doubt that OU players under Stoops got some money from boosters over the years. If it makes them cheaters, then about every program has to wear the label as cheaters.

 

[bullmarket]

Happens everywhere. I don't doubt that OU players under Stoops got some money from boosters over the years. If it makes them cheaters, then about every program has to wear the label as cheaters.

link?

 

[BillyRay]

link?

Don't need a link. I live in reality. You truly believe the Bomar ordeal was the only shady dealing that occurred in over 16 years of Bob Stoops being head coach??

 

[bullmarket]

Don't need a link. I live in reality. You truly believe the Bomar ordeal was the only shady dealing that occurred in over 16 years of Bob Stoops being head coach??

Absolutely. Stoops being a strong disciplinarian would not tolerate this.

Look how quickly Bob responding with his axe to his starting QB Bomar.

Bob kicked his starting RB Damian Williams off of the team. Damian is still in the NFL

 

[OUSOONER67]

Don't need a link. I live in reality. You truly believe the Bomar ordeal was the only shady dealing that occurred in over 16 years of Bob Stoops being head coach??

I agree that it happens a lot more than people would like to think. A HC or any Coach on the staff cannot babysit 24/7 365 days a year. Also kids will be kids and I am sure a lot of players come from families that struggled and had little to nothing. JMO

 

[BillyRay]

Absolutely. Stoops being a strong disciplinarian would not tolerate this.

Look how quickly Bob responding with his axe to his starting QB Bomar.

Bob kicked his starting RB Damian Williams off of the team. Damian is still in the NFL

And Chris Simms was paid by boosters over 15 years ago and if he hadn't dimed himself out then none of us would have never known. Don't be naïve to think it happens at places other than OU. Bomar was a situation he was privy to learn about and could deal with it. Has absolutely nothing to do with whether Bob woud tolerate it or not. No telling how many things went on that Bob never knew about.

 

[OUSOONER67]

What I don't get is why these players like Chrissy take money from boosters and years and years later decide they need to come clean? If they knew it was wrong then they should know its wrong 2, 5, 10 yrs later. Sour grapes perhaps? Guilty conscience? Or is Chrissy still the lil biotch he always was? Ha ha, couldn't help myself.

 

[Oklabama]

Why the f*** would any former player, e.g., Chris Simms, admit to taking money during his college days 15 years after the fact? What's the motivation? This kind of crap just makes my head spin. I don't get it. "Aren't you getting enough attention, Chrissy?"

 

[BillyRay]

Ya I don't understand it either. Years and years later, then they feel the need to fess up that they took improper benefits. Is there a statute of limitations in regards to the NCAA and infractions like this?? Maybe 15 years is the breaking point and Simms feels the need to get it off his chest (or brag about it). Lol

 

[Oklabama]

Ya I don't understand it either. Years and years later, then they feel the need to fess up that they took improper benefits. Is there a statute of limitations in regards to the NCAA and infractions like this?? Maybe 15 years is the breaking point and Simms feels the need to get it off his chest (or brag about it). Lol

Billy, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guys like Chrissy are just bragging.......and I will add....love the fricking attention. Maybe it's just me but I never think bad of the university, which may be dumb of me, I always think how stupid they are for telling the world that they were so damn corrupt. How smart is that?

 

[larwilli]

It's not that this happens everywhere that makes this a non story. Texas fans make the claim that it happens everywhere EXCEPT Texas. That's the story!

 

[iasooner1]

If there's a statue of him anywhere, it needs to come down fast !

 

[Oklabama]

If there's a statue of him anywhere, it needs to come down fast !

LMAO. This has been a good day.

 

[OUSOONER67]

This should be his statue.

 

[Oklabama]

This should be his statue.

Perfect.

 

[Medic007]

Absolutely. Stoops being a strong disciplinarian would not tolerate this.

Big Red and their no pay Adrian Peterson Lexus special say hello. Everyone looked the other way until he slow rolled a stop sign and got popped for driving under suspension. They couldn't keep looking the other way when the reality that he didn't own the car was about to become public.

 

[OUnabomber]

Ole Chrissy Sims. I sure miss watching us knock that guy around and Mack taking up for him in the post game presser conference. Those were the days

 

[kcstorm06]

Seems like a weak publicity stunt...his only memorable moment was losing his man card at the goal line... then making Sooner fans young and old go wild.

 

[BillyRay]

Seems like a weak publicity stunt...his only memorable moment was losing his man card at the goal line... then making Sooner fans young and old go wild.

I agree here. But I also remember the game where he got his man card back while in the NFL. The game against Carolina where he get pulled from the field after getting brutalized. He returned to the game and played through the pain. After the game he was taken to the hospital and ended up having a ruptured spleen and needed emergency surgery to save his life.

Chrissy Simms finished the game and played through that. He earned his man card back that night in my book.

 

[Berryhillboomer]

I'm pretty sure everyone is guilty of this including OU. What I don't understand as bama stated, why talk about it now and what is the benefit?

 

[Berryhillboomer]

Also let me state I don't believe Bob knew about it directly, but if anyone believes this doesn't happen everywhere they are just lying to themselves

 

[bullmarket]

Also let me state I don't believe Bob knew about it directly, but if anyone believes this doesn't happen everywhere they are just lying to themselves

Bob Stoops has proven what a strict disciplinarian he is and what a tight ship he runs so I believe this has not happened at OU

Mack Brown on the other hand let his kids do what they want and they were undisciplined. .

The proof for Mack and texas is..........
When Charlie Strong in 2014 took over at texas after Mack Brown got fired, , he promptly kicked at least 9 (maybe more) Mack players off of the texas team "for breaking team rules" including not going to class

Before you make a statement like you did about OU, please show some proof.
Saying "everybody does it" IS NOT PROOF. Because not everybody takes money from Boosters. Players today in college football get money now from their schools in addition to their scholarships paying for room and board and meals

And just recently Mississippi got caught with boosters giving money to players and Baylor's head coach Art Briles & the President of the University got fired for many problems with undisciplined players.

Bob and Joe C and David Boren run a very clean program at OU.They are strict disciplinarians. Guys like Frank Shannon (OU's leading tackler the year before) got kicked off of the team for a year involving Title 9. Boren even went to court against Frank Shannon to get him off of the team. Earlier Damian Williams OU's RB starter was kicked off of the OU team breaking team rules. Damian is now still in the NFL. Do you remember Damian's 95 yard run from scrimmage for a TD against texas

 

[Berryhillboomer]

With due respect, I don't care what you believe. It's my opinion and I'm sure I'm in the majority. If you want to turn the other way and pretend it doesn't happen that's on you.

 

[OUSOONER67]

I would like to think it does not happen at OU, at least if it does then I hope no player comes forward after he leaves OU and snitches. No reason to punish others for your stupidity. Ever notice they don't snitch on themselves while they are there, its only after the fact. They won't get into trouble with the NCAA but they don't mind if others do that had nothing to do with it.

 

[Gramps]

Absolutely. Stoops being a strong disciplinarian would not tolerate this.

Look how quickly Bob responding with his axe to his starting QB Bomar.

Bob kicked his starting RB Damian Williams off of the team. Damian is still in the NFL

LOL

 

[Berryhillboomer]

Rhett bomar and jd Quinn say hello. Again it happens everywhere.

 

[CTOkie]

There are elements of dirt everywhere in all college sports. No team, not even Notre Dame, is immune from misdeeds by coaches, players, administrators and boosters.
These off-the-field misdeeds can do far more damage to a program than losing games on Saturdays.

 

[MiccoMacey]

With your head in the sand, you see nothing.

I think your new name shall be ostrichmarket.

 

[Berryhillboomer]

Haha

 

[JConXtsy]

If you're getting paid to attend a university, I'd guess that would lower or kill all dedication to that school.

Shaq and Barkley admit to it, and I really doubt these guys are seeking attention. They've already got it all. This is just something for them to laugh about.

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/26/shaq-paid-play-lsu-basketball-shareef-oneal-recruiting

 

[JConXtsy]

I think they're coming out because they're advocating paying players. They're just saying, look, this is going to happen. Legalize it.

 

[BillyRay]

Bob Stoops has proven what a strict disciplinarian he is and what a tight ship he runs so I believe this has not happened at OU

Mack Brown on the other hand let his kids do what they want and they were undisciplined. .

The proof for Mack and texas is..........
When Charlie Strong in 2014 took over at texas after Mack Brown got fired, , he promptly kicked at least 9 (maybe more) Mack players off of the texas team "for breaking team rules" including not going to class

Before you make a statement like you did about OU, please show some proof.
Saying "everybody does it" IS NOT PROOF. Because not everybody takes money from Boosters. Players today in college football get money now from their schools in addition to their scholarships paying for room and board and meals

And just recently Mississippi got caught with boosters giving money to players and Baylor's head coach Art Briles & the President of the University got fired for many problems with undisciplined players.

Bob and Joe C and David Boren run a very clean program at OU.They are strict disciplinarians. Guys like Frank Shannon (OU's leading tackler the year before) got kicked off of the team for a year involving Title 9. Boren even went to court against Frank Shannon to get him off of the team. Earlier Damian Williams OU's RB starter was kicked off of the OU team breaking team rules. Damian is now still in the NFL. Do you remember Damian's 95 yard run from scrimmage for a TD against texas

Knowing how Bob andJoe C and Boren run OU's sports programs, I would bet that there are not $100 dollar booster handshakes at OU.

And no, not "everybody does this."

Believe what you want.

I guess before Simms admitted to taking money, there was zero proof, so for 15 years it never happened?? Give me a break...

And like I said before....whether Bob and the admin knew about it to control it is completely irrelevant.

 

[BillyRay]

I would like to think it does not happen at OU, at least if it does then I hope no player comes forward after he leaves OU and snitches.

And this is exactly why there is no "proof" for people who demand proof to hang their hats on. These secret handshake deals that Simms is talking about is something that unless one of the sides decides to fess up and admit it, then no one will ever know it happened.

And I had forgotten about the Adrian Peterson ordeal that Medic mentioned. Funny how Bob and the admin and staff looked the other way until it was obvious the details were about to come out.

 

[bullmarket]

Mississippi has 12 big boosters the NCAA is looking at.

The NCAA says Ole Miss has 21 violations of which 15 are Level 1 the most serious.

These are not 100 dollar handshakes but are big time bucks.

The head coach Freeze (now gone) had to know about it.

OU & OU coaches never has and never will be a part of a big time boosters scandal
giving large amounts of money to recruits and team players

This I am 100% certain

15 years ago, OU came down hard on Bomar & Davis and Big Red Auto when they learned about it.
..
LINK MISSISSIPPI & MANY BOOSTERS & THE NCAA
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...es-of-boosters-in-ncaa-allegations/104088472/

 

[Berryhillboomer]

Will never? That's purely opinion and nothing else.

 

[UofOKalum]

I don't get why Chris Simms didn't just get money from his dad. It's easier to get a great deal buying a car if your a D1 star. I remember when it looked like Herman Johnson 6'7" 385, Denton, TX, was going to be a Sooner until his mom landed a sweet Secretary job near LSU.

 

[Medic007]

And this is exactly why there is no "proof" for people who demand proof to hang their hats on. These secret handshake deals that Simms is talking about is something that unless one of the sides decides to fess up and admit it, then no one will ever know it happened.

And I had forgotten about the Adrian Peterson ordeal that Medic mentioned. Funny how Bob and the admin and staff looked the other way until it was obvious the details were about to come out.

To add to your great post J, if Chris Simms, the son of a wealthy former QB, was accepting money, just imagine how tempting it is when you come from nothing.

 

[Medic007]

OU & OU coaches never has and never will be a part of a big time boosters scandal
giving large amounts of money to recruits and team players

This I am 100% certain

15 years ago, OU came down hard on Bomar & Davis and Big Red Auto when they learned about it.

Uh, bull, OU has quite the history of big time booster scandals and the probations to prove it.

They only dropped the hammer on Bomar when someone ratted him out. Did Bob know the specifics? Maybe not all of them, but he knew what Big Red was about. OU is very lucky Big Red didn't produce the documents showing the history because it was widespread and had been going on for some time.

 

[JConXtsy]

I don't get why Chris Simms didn't just get money from his dad. It's easier to get a great deal buying a car if your a D1 star. I remember when it looked like Herman Johnson 6'7" 385, Denton, TX, was going to be a Sooner until his mom landed a sweet Secretary job near LSU.

Well, he only admitted to $100 handshakes. Didn't sound like arranged payments. Sounded more like surprises, and nobody would refuse a handshake like that and bring attention to the room.