Big XII Decisions Coming This Summer

[runningback43]

I vote for the SEC. Texas A&M has taken their program to new heights after leaving uterus and heading to the SEC. Like somebody else said, Missouri has also flourished in the almighty SEC. There are a lot of people that believe the SEC is the best conference in the country. All Sooner fans believe we have the one of if not the best football programs in the country. If we want to be the best, we have to beat the best. In order to do that, we should look at heading to the SEC.

The SEC also has a rich history in baseball, men's basketball, and softball. I'll take the SEC as a whole over any other conference in the country.

The RRR could still exist with us in the SEC and uterus in the Big XII or whatever conference they want to be in.

 

[Oklabama]

Looks like most favor OU to SEC but that may not be true. Someone that is savy and knows how to set up a poll should do so. I have no idea how, but would participate and like to hear what fans want.

 

[sybarite43]

I think I would rather be an Independent than to go to the SEC.

 

[SoonerTulsan]

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Not my quote....but the gist is.... OU is a reformed alcoholic (use to cheat but no longer does) would be competing with schools where cheating is believed to be alive and well by some people. The constant temptation would be huge. In other words like a reformed alcoholic serving others drinks.

That's naive IMO.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

What is the argument against OU joining the SEC? Hate? Fear? There has to be something. Would it be more difficult to win a national championship? Most likely. But if fans want to watch great match ups at least 3 or 4 times a season most years, then the SEC is the place to be. The OU - Tennessse game was as good as it gets. I like that type of game. Win or lose.

OU - Nebraska was as good as it gets... Eff the sucsucsuc... and eff texASS too...

 

[Oklabama]

Yeah, I would have liked to have continued with the annual OU - Nebraska game too, but the B12 ruined that. Now the Huskers are gone along with Colorado, Missouri and Texas A&M replaced by only two....TCU and West Virginia with little hope of ever attracting another significant program much less two. But based on your post, I take it that you feel the Big 12 is the best option for OU. You're not alone, but I'm on the other side. Why to you hate the SEC so much anyway? Just curious.

OU - Nebraska was as good as it gets... Eff the sucsucsuc... and eff texASS too...

 

[Oklabama]

I think I would rather be an Independent than to go to the SEC.

Sure in a perfect world being an independent would be great except for the challenge OU would have building a reasonably decent schedule that would give us an opportunity to vie for another national championship. Wouldn't that be a concern?

 

[Mister Moses]

I agree with ptlavaca, forget about Texas let em wallow in all that money. I would love to get Nebraska back as our main rival. I think OU has some power actually. Texas lost the big Thanksgiving rivalry vs A&M already. Take the RRR away from Texas, Texas doesn't care about the big 12 they are so selfish and always have been. Let em decide if they want Baylor, TCU or Texas Tech as their new big rival. I love that scenario.

 

[Jaaa]

That game in Knoxville last season was the most exciting of the year imo. Imagine games with that intensity week in and week out. Then compare that to the KU and ISU games of the schedule. *yawn*

Saying we can't compete in the SEC because they cheat - okay - well what happens when we draw a SEC team in the final 4? We decline the invitation bc we have no chance to compete?

It's all moot - bc DaBo is scared of the SEC. Some believe he is hades bent on the Big 10. Like others have said, the reality is we won't be leaving this Section 8 conference we currently reside in. Frog in a pot yada yada yada.

 

[Oklabama]

Some may be concerned about an annual schedule that includes Alabama, Auburn, Old Miss, Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Arkansas and LSU, and a couple of SEC eastern teams thrown in. Plus a descent non-conference schedule now and then. There aren't too many Iowa State or Kansas types many years in the SEC. The eastern SEC side has the traditionally weaker teams now that the Mississippi schools have a presence, but even Vandy and Kentucky have been playing better recently even though they aren't much to be concerned about. I would prefer to be with Missouri rather than A&M. I would love to play Tennessee, Georgia and Florida every year.

 

[CTOkie]

I believe that OU must move elsewhere to become a perennial national championship contender again.....whether it's to the SEC or Big10. The Big 12, if it does continue, must add two good teams and not the likes of Memphis, Cincinnati, Tulane, or Tulsa and sure as hell not UConn. I don't see the Big 12 adding two quality programs and I have a feeling that the conference will evaporate within the next 5-6 years.

 

[Tuloma]

That's naive IMO.

It was said as a joke........ people take this stuff too seriously,

 

[BillyRay]

I believe that OU must move elsewhere to become a perennial national championship contender again.....whether it's to the SEC or Big10. The Big 12, if it does continue, must add two good teams and not the likes of Memphis, Cincinnati, Tulane, or Tulsa and sure as hell not UConn. I don't see the Big 12 adding two quality programs and I have a feeling that the conference will evaporate within the next 5-6 years.

Exactly CT. There really just aren't any quality programs out there to add. The Big XII missed that boat years ago when they decided 10 teams was enough. I think there are programs that are the "best of the worst", but the pickings are pretty slim. I believe the only route the Big XII can take in regards to expansion, is simply increasing the footprint of the conference, then hope for the best in the long run.

 

[PtLavacaSooner]

Yeah, I would have liked to have continued with the annual OU - Nebraska game too, but the B12 ruined that. Now the Huskers are gone along with Colorado, Missouri and Texas A&M replaced by only two....TCU and West Virginia with little hope of ever attracting another significant program much less two. But based on your post, I take it that you feel the Big 12 is the best option for OU. You're not alone, but I'm on the other side. Why to you hate the SEC so much anyway? Just curious.

The sucsucsuc thrives on the idea that they are better based upon the success of a few teams. Saban (auto corrected to Satan, ha!) Has built Alabama back to an elite program. Where are the orhers? LSU won a title when the had two losses and other one loss teams were left out. Don't know if Kansas could've beat LSU, but they should have been playing Ohio State as the only other 1 loss team. Then we had the sucsucsuc vs sucsucsuc for another. I call b.s. to all of it.

Now we have the 4 team crapshoot. I wonder if tOSU would've beat Alabama again had they been given a shot.

My allegiance is to OU. All the rest of it all is secondary...

 

[SoonerTulsan]

It was said as a joke........ people take this stuff too seriously,

So saying that OU doesn't "cheat" was a joke? Oh, ok, sure didn't come across that way. I truly think t's naive to think they don't...they all "cheat".

 

[Oklabama]

Its kind of funny. In 1918, OU was in the same conference as Oklahoma A&M (OSU), Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas, SMU, Baylor, and Rice. I think that lasted about 3 or 4 years before OU woke up and joined a conference that eventually became the Big 8 after several name changes. Smart on the elder OU administrators getting out of the Texas conference.....the Southwest Conference.

 

[Oklabama]

The sucsucsuc thrives on the idea that they are better based upon the success of a few teams. Saban (auto corrected to Satan, ha!) Has built Alabama back to an elite program. Where are the orhers? LSU won a title when the had two losses and other one loss teams were left out. Don't know if Kansas could've beat LSU, but they should have been playing Ohio State as the only other 1 loss team. Then we had the sucsucsuc vs sucsucsuc for another. I call b.s. to all of it.

Now we have the 4 team crapshoot. I wonder if tOSU would've beat Alabama again had they been given a shot.

My allegiance is to OU. All the rest of it all is secondary...

PT, I'm 100% with you. I just think OU would be much better off in another conference, but not just any conference. My choices would be the Southeastern Conference, Big Ten and PAC in that order. The SEC would provide the best competition, and in my opinion, be a lot more fun for fans that attend away games. Being a member of the Big Ten would also give OU great match ups with Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State and our greatest rival ever (again in my opinion) Nebraska. (I put Texas as #2, sorry). The PAC would be a good change except for the travel and late nights fans here in the Central Time zone would have to deal with......not to mention Schoonerman and all the great OU fans back east. Even so, my allegiance is to what is best for the program, and as you put it.....all the rest of it is secondary.

 

[sooner_mike]

First, OU is not going to the SEC not happening. Some of you seem to forget that OU was invited to the SEC back when aTm, Nebish, MU, and CU bolted, guess what? OU said thanks but no thanks. OU was heading west before they where told OSU would not be welcome to come with them. OU/OSU are a package deal period, nothing has changed. So if OU joins another conference it would be the pack not the SEC with OSU beside them.


OU will do it's best to get the problems in this conference fix, if not.....welcome back CU, NU, MU, along with OSU, KSU, KU and ISU. I think the the big 8 could pull WVU and TCU and possibly Baylor. And bring in Pittsburgh. Because of the WVU rivalry. And play Texas annually as always. Recruiting was never better when OU and Texas was seperated.

OU has a great President and AD they will not cow down to Texas and the Big 12 -2 as we know it.

 

[sooner_mike]

Also for those of you saying Bob needs to go because of his refusal to join the SEC, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever see posted on any message board.

 

[Oklabama]

Bob Stoops will coach for the Sooners in any conference that OU is a member. He is going to leave OU when he decides it's time for him to hang it up. That may be sooner than any of us can imagine or much longer than some would like, but I really think Bob has a plan and he will be allowed to see it though. I doubt that he will have a lot of input in the "final" decision regarding the conference issue. He certainly will be asked his opinion but he won't leave OU if Boren and the regents feel it's in the program's best interest longterm to become a member of a conference Bob dislikes. I do believe it would be difficult to leave without OSU along side. But that depends on just how bad things get for OU as a B12 member. OSU just doesn't bring much for some conferences to accept them and OU isn't a big enough draw to insist on OSU come with them. Not anymore that the other majors have expanded. Again, poor decisions a few years ago may keep OU from having a better future. Unfortunately.

 

[Tuloma]

So saying that OU doesn't "cheat" was a joke? Oh, ok, sure didn't come across that way. I truly think t's naive to think they don't...they all "cheat".

Good grief man, the guy who said that was being humorous and he got a lot of laughs. Lighten up and appreciate a little humor.

 

[BillyRay]

Also for those of you saying Bob needs to go because of his refusal to join the SEC, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever see posted on any message board.

I would say that depends on the circumstances behind Bob not wanting to go to the SEC. If he doesn't want to go to the SEC because he is afraid of playing such a brutal schedule each year, then I think it's safe to ask the question why would anyone want a coach that is afraid of competition?? But if Bob has other reasons he doesn't want to go, then I'm all ears for hearing his reasons. If he simply doesn't like the culture of the SEC, then I totally respect that. Even posters on this board aren't at a consensus as to what conference they would rather see OU go to if they left the Big XII, and I respect their opinions as well.

 

[BillyRay]

First, OU is not going to the SEC not happening. Some of you seem to forget that OU was invited to the SEC back when aTm, Nebish, MU, and CU bolted, guess what? OU said thanks but no thanks.

I would like to know what Boren and JoeC are saying behind closed doors to that decision today. If Boren truly thinks it was a great decision, then why would he be publicly making statements as to what demands he wants the conference to meet going forward? Sounds like Boren is having a bit of "buyers remorse" to staying in the Big XII. Now that doesn't mean Boren or JoeC wants the SEC. But they also said no thanks to the Pac-12 all those years ago as well. So at this point, if OU were to jump to another conference, I wouldn't exactly rule out anything.

 

[Oklabama]

Well, all this about OU going to the SEC is just something to talk (wish) about since I'm not aware of any news suggesting the SEC is looking to expand beyond 14 teams in quite some time. However, the SEC has always been one of, if not the largest conference in terms of membership, for a major. The conference began with 13 schools back in the 30's. Going to 16 members just sounds like a lot to me.

 

[SoonerTulsan]

Good grief man, the guy who said that was being humorous and he got a lot of laughs. Lighten up and appreciate a little humor.

Sorry...there are some here that truly don't think it happens. While that's shocking, I guess I don't know you're "style" well enough to know better. I'll learn.

 

[SoonerTulsan]

Also for those of you saying Bob needs to go because of his refusal to join the SEC, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever see posted on any message board.

I think the bar is much lower. Top 20 though.