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I think she's not being paid to identify with student athletes and their issues, she's being paid to win games. She's been really good about that and should keep doing what she has done.

There are counselors that can deal with feelings but can't coach basketball.
 
I love Sherri, but I agree with those who say that this team is underperforming a little. And she has to be some responsibility for that.

On the flip side, especially if you go over to the pay side, there are a lot of people calling for her to be gone. I view that as craziness.

There also seems to always be a pretty significant percentage of posters here, not close to a majority, but not a small number, who want to complain about OUr best coaches as being overpaid. I think Sherri is a treasure, and she gets it, as the video shows.

I'm looking forward to seeing how well she and her staff develop the new 6-9 post girl, Nancy Mulkey who'll be a freshman next season. We also seem smaller than everybody else. And there is also a point guard from Sapulpa who is supposed to be a top 75 national player. Chelsea Dungee. And then there is a top player who is transferring from Kentucky. Morgan Rich. Rich won't play next season until the conference play begins.

So there is some help on the way. And most of this year's players are returning. I think OU might be better next season than they are this season. I also have a hunch that Ortiz will be a lot better player next season if she takes some time off this summer.

Having some sort of rim protector might be a first for the Sooner women's program. Even the Paris twins weren't great at that. OU might just be really good next year. And if some things click, it might happen Sooner. We'll see.
 
I love Sherri, but I agree with those who say that this team is underperforming a little. And she has to be some responsibility for that.

On the flip side, especially if you go over to the pay side, there are a lot of people calling for her to be gone. I view that as craziness.

There also seems to always be a pretty significant percentage of posters here, not close to a majority, but not a small number, who want to complain about OUr best coaches as being overpaid. I think Sherri is a treasure, and she gets it, as the video shows.

I'm looking forward to seeing how well she and her staff develop the new 6-9 post girl, Nancy Mulkey who'll be a freshman next season. We also seem smaller than everybody else. And there is also a point guard from Sapulpa who is supposed to be a top 75 national player. Chelsea Dungee. And then there is a top player who is transferring from Kentucky. Morgan Rich. Rich won't play next season until the conference play begins.

So there is some help on the way. And most of this year's players are returning. I think OU might be better next season than they are this season. I also have a hunch that Ortiz will be a lot better player next season if she takes some time off this summer.

Having some sort of rim protector might be a first for the Sooner women's program. Even the Paris twins weren't great at that. OU might just be really good next year. And if some things click, it might happen Sooner. We'll see.

Agreed, she's earned a bit more time. I'd like to see a bit harder line in all sports (maybe that's just the old school in me, or the military...can't decide) rather than catering to feelings. No one in this world gives 2 craps about your feelings or your ambitions when you play the game, you are either really good at what you do, or you sell cars. The coaches job is to make the player better, not give hugs.
 
AZ, have you ever coached? I have coached over 80 seasons of one sport or another. Not claiming any superiority, just wanted to make an observation. I've coached mostly boys. I spent three years coaching girls and I had some parents, especially moms tell me that I was not going to be able to do that the way I had boys for years.

I kind of blew it off and coached the way I always had. It was a huge mistake. My relationship with my daughter still bears those scars.

I doubt you'd see any more hugging at Sherri's practices than you do at the guys'. Don't know. But it is a very different task. There are a lot of factors in being a good or even great coach. But finding out what makes each player tick, and then learning how to best push those buttons are what the best coaches do.

And anybody coaching women is going to have to push different buttons. And more hugging will be involved. At least metaphorically. They're putting Sherri in the Hall of Fame just after this season. You don't earn such an honor without some pretty great accomplishments. On the court, and most of the time, off it, too.
 
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AZ, have you ever coached? I have coached over 80 seasons of one sport or another. Not claiming any superiority, just wanted to make an observation. I've coached mostly boys. I spent three years coaching girls and I had some parents, especially moms tell me that I was not going to be able to do that the way I had boys for years.

I kind of blew it off and coached the way I always had. It was a huge mistake. My relationship with my daughter still bears those scars.

I doubt you'd see any more hugging at Sherri's practices than you do at the guys'. Don't know. But it is a very different task. There are a lot of factors in being a good or even great coach. But finding out what makes each player tick, and then learning how to best push those buttons are what the best coaches do.

And anybody coaching women is going to have to push different buttons. And more hugging will be involved. At least metaphorically. They're putting Sherri in the Hall of Fame just after this season. You don't earn such an honor without some pretty great accomplishments. On the court, and most of the time, off it, too.

The only coaching at this level I have done is from the couch and I'm sure there is a reason for that (being that I'm better at other things). However, I have been coached when I played football and baseball and I remember it being very much a focused and disciplined environment.

I wasn't critiquing Sherry's mode of coaching at all. Frankly, I don't know that much about how she coaches and what I said really wasn't meant as anything other than an opinion about sports coaching in general and how it seems a lot more relaxed and concerned with feelings.

I can see your point in how being hard may not motivate women the same way it can men, but I would argue that most women are just as competitive at the collegiate level as any man, have the same drive and that most would respond to hard coaching if it's in their best interest as a player.
 
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OU had officially dropped women's basketball from their sports lineup in 1996.
The public announcement had been made.
They were not very good and there seemed to be little interest in the program.
This is a classic example of apathy.
I don't remember exactly what caused OU to change their mind, likely a small group who love the game made some noise.
Whatever caused it, OU decided to take one more stab at it.
They decided to look no further than Norman High School for the "last chance".
Sherri had taken a lackluster Norman HS program and transformed them it to a two-time state champion in just 6 years.
In the 19+ years she has spent at OU, Sherri has transformed a program that OU had decided to "pull the plug on" in to a perennial top 25 team and most of that 19 years, they have been a top 10 team.
Accomplishments:
Sixteen consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances.
Thirteen 20+ win seasons
Nine 24+ win seasons
Three 30+ win seasons
Nine Sweet 16+ appearances
Three Final Four appearances

Not bad for a program that was in hospice care the day before she was hired.
I think she has bought herself some time, based purely on her on-the-court accomplishments.
Granted, her performance has fallen off the last 2-3 years.
But that should serve as a wake-up call for her.

Regardless, from a dead program to the accomplishments above, she has earned more than a little time, in my opinion.
 
OU had officially dropped women's basketball from their sports lineup in 1996.
The public announcement had been made.
They were not very good and there seemed to be little interest in the program.
This is a classic example of apathy.
I don't remember exactly what caused OU to change their mind, likely a small group who love the game made some noise.
Whatever caused it, OU decided to take one more stab at it.
They decided to look no further than Norman High School for the "last chance".
Sherri had taken a lackluster Norman HS program and transformed them it to a two-time state champion in just 6 years.
In the 19+ years she has spent at OU, Sherri has transformed a program that OU had decided to "pull the plug on" in to a perennial top 25 team and most of that 19 years, they have been a top 10 team.
Accomplishments:
Sixteen consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances.
Thirteen 20+ win seasons
Nine 24+ win seasons
Three 30+ win seasons
Nine Sweet 16+ appearances
Three Final Four appearances

Not bad for a program that was in hospice care the day before she was hired.
I think she has bought herself some time, based purely on her on-the-court accomplishments.
Granted, her performance has fallen off the last 2-3 years.
But that should serve as a wake-up call for her.

Regardless, from a dead program to the accomplishments above, she has earned more than a little time, in my opinion.

So, could it be said she is to OU women's basketball what Bill Snyder is to KSU football in terms of resurrecting a moribund program? Just kidding. Sort of.... :cool:
 
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So, could it be said she is to OU women's basketball what Bill Snyder is to KSU football in terms of resurrecting a moribund program? Just kidding. Sort of.... :cool:
A close comparison.
I would say 10 win football seasons would be comparable to making the NCAA tournament.
Sherri's team played in one National Championship game.
Snyder was one B12 Championship game loss away from playing in a Championship game.
Very similar.
 
Geno Auriemma had a hand in Coales' hiring at OU following his recruitment of Stacy Hansmeyer (Norman High) and Page Sauer (Midwest City). Since then, Coale and Auriemma have been good friends....and OU's women's teams have been competitive since then. Not bad for a program that was pressured to survive by women's groups.
I have been a Sherri Coale fan since day one after finding out she hails from my mother's hometown, Healdton. I hope she can elevate her program to a higher level, but I don't see OU reaching UConn's level anytime soon.
Women's college basketball has parity, but that parity exists outside of UConn.
 
OU had officially dropped women's basketball from their sports lineup in 1996.
The public announcement had been made.
They were not very good and there seemed to be little interest in the program.
This is a classic example of apathy.
I don't remember exactly what caused OU to change their mind, likely a small group who love the game made some noise.
Whatever caused it, OU decided to take one more stab at it.
They decided to look no further than Norman High School for the "last chance".
Sherri had taken a lackluster Norman HS program and transformed them it to a two-time state champion in just 6 years.
In the 19+ years she has spent at OU, Sherri has transformed a program that OU had decided to "pull the plug on" in to a perennial top 25 team and most of that 19 years, they have been a top 10 team.
Accomplishments:
Sixteen consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances.
Thirteen 20+ win seasons
Nine 24+ win seasons
Three 30+ win seasons
Nine Sweet 16+ appearances
Three Final Four appearances

Not bad for a program that was in hospice care the day before she was hired.
I think she has bought herself some time, based purely on her on-the-court accomplishments.
Granted, her performance has fallen off the last 2-3 years.
But that should serve as a wake-up call for her.

Regardless, from a dead program to the accomplishments above, she has earned more than a little time, in my opinion.
Let's make the position that the University of Oklahoma had created a little clearer. When the SAE chant went viral, it was an embarrassment to the University, and Boren, as well as the national SAE, reacted strongly and quickly to make it clear that such an attitude did ot reflect the opinions of the University of Oklahoma. The football team and coaches banded together to assure everyone that this was not reflective of the atmosphere on the team. But, the termination of the women's basketball program was not done by some drunken fraternity boys. It had been the presumably sober university administration along with the AD's office that had shown a complete lack of sensitivity to a hot button issue.

The program was reinstated immediately. But, it was far from anything that could be called successful. When they lost their coach, they didn't invest in a successful coach from another university,, or even a respected assistant coach at a national power. They hired a high school coach.

What had begun as a quagmire from which extrication would be almost impossible, turned into the luckiest hire the university has ever made. Sherri Coale, even with no recruiting base, found players that nobody else really wanted and turned them into a successful team. Then, she got a little lucky. She put together some local prospects with a Canadian and built a team that played quite well against what even Connecticut fans regard as the greatest team in basketball history. That team would have beaten anyone else by thirty, just as it usually does now.

The image problem that threatened to make a program impossible was turned into one of the most positive images in women's basketball. Sherri Coale is respected by everyone in the game, and the University of Oklahoma's women's basketball program may not win every national title, but they are respected as the way that a basketball program should be, even admitted by Geno upon her acceptance into the Hall of Fame. From a national disgrace to the pinnacle of what the sport should be is a huge transformation.

If you haven't noticed, Boren is trying to build the University's image, even has a specialty academic program under development that he hopes will compete with Harvard and Stanford. He even looked at the Pacific Twelve, hoping to affiliate with a conference more respected for academia. One program that has the image that he wants for the University is the women's basketball program.

Sherri doesn't hold Boren and Joe C up at the point of a gun. They pay her what she is worth to the University, according to what they value. She had a raise in 2014, hardly a good year, with an extension to 2020. He is concerned with more than titles. After all, we have been to three Final Fours in women's basketball since we last won a national title in football, and we are capable of winning titles in football. We have never won one in men's or women's basketball.

Joe C. made these comments about Patti Gasso:

Is Gasso a solid business decision at $350,000 per season? Will she drive in that much revenue to the OU softball program each year? No. But Castiglione knows you can't put a price on what Gasso means to the university, or the sport itself.

"It was much more than a monetary evaluation," he said. "That's part of it, but Patty has become a coach that has not just garnered national attention, but really has reached some hearts of people, not just throughout Oklahoma, but through this region and nationally.

"People watch what we're doing and more importantly watch how we're doing it and that's worth a lot more than we can cobble together for compensation. We really believe it was a much bigger decision for us."

Boren and Joe C. pay for more than titles. They pay for what it means to the university, knowing full well that softball and women's basketball are not profitable. Yet, the "declining" OU women's basketball program is still #12 in the NCAA in attendance.

What Sherri has done for the image of the sport at OU is somewhat difficult to value. It may be off the charts.
 
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