Sooners add a QB to the 2015 class
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Because...?
He's got the physical tools, it looks like. Can he not throw well? Are his mechanics such that he can't be taught to throw correctly?
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I saw this guy play 3X, and to get him as a PW, I believe, will be a strong positive for the team and coaching staff.
He looks to be 6'2" 175lbs on his film.
He's a lefty and distributes the ball from the pocket well, but most of his passes are typical floaters to spots on the field. In other words he doesn't throw the ball on a rope, so DBs would enjoy picking those all day long.
If he runs a 4.36, he'll be faster than any RB on the roster.
He's a lefty and distributes the ball from the pocket well, but most of his passes are typical floaters to spots on the field. In other words he doesn't throw the ball on a rope, so DBs would enjoy picking those all day long.
If he runs a 4.36, he'll be faster than any RB on the roster.
Those highlights are not all-inclusive, and certainly don't capture his other skills as a QB. And yes, he CAN throw the ball on a rope. I'm certainly not here to say he's some 5* QB that everyone missed on, and who will be a heisman finalist in 2 years, nor am I saying he's a lock for some all-conference or all-American accolades. Just saying that based on what I saw of him several times in person, picking him up as a PW is a very positive thing for the team and coaching staff.Originally posted by JMISASANO:
He looks to be 6'2" 175lbs on his film.
He's a lefty and distributes the ball from the pocket well, but most of his passes are typical floaters to spots on the field. In other words he doesn't throw the ball on a rope, so DBs would enjoy picking those all day long.
If he runs a 4.36, he'll be faster than any RB on the roster.
where does it show a 4:36 ? 247 has him listed as a 4:75 . Looks like some schools were looking at him.
http://247sports.com/Player/Connor-McGinnis-38634
http://247sports.com/Player/Connor-McGinnis-38634
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Height 6'4"
Weight195lbs
40yd Dash4.36
Shuttle3.96
Vertical34.5"
Bench Press225lbs
Squat425lbs
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The 6'4" has no bearing. Tall guys can run fast too. That one guy with the last name Bolt is 6'5".
It doesn't make sense that a guy with 4.36 speed would have to walk on at any college. I'd guess the 4.75 speed is the more accurate speed.
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It doesn't make sense that a guy with 4.36 speed would have to walk on at any college. I'd guess the 4.75 speed is the more accurate speed.
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This is what I'm thinking. You can't coach speed. Even if a program doesn't see the kid as a college QB, he would have gotten offers based on 4.36 speed alone and brought him in as an athlete.
Who cares about his size or speed ? If his talent can be developed to compete on a college level, he will play. Let's see where he is a year from now before we decide how good or how bad he will become. Right now that is something impossible to determine.
Quarterbacks are like pitchers in that a team can never have too many.
Quarterbacks are like pitchers in that a team can never have too many.
You guys are comparing a walk on college QB to the fastest human being in the history of the world. World class sprinters are not typically 6'4 or taller. Bolt even has difficulty in the first half of the race maybe due to his height. Whatever the case, I'm not buying the kid runs a 4.3
Nobody is comparing this kid to Usain Bolt; just making a point that you can't ASSume a tall kid can't be fast, as you did. For the record, and I've said this many times on this board, I don't buy ANY of the 40 times posted by recruiting services, or even those spewed out by coaches. I think you can safely add at least .2 seconds to most any reported 40 time. Every year, there are dozens and dozens of supposed sub 4.4 guys on the recruiting boards, yet every year there are less than a handful of players that are actually timed under a 4.4 at the NFL combine. Those kids aren't getting slower in college.
Oh I know some tall kids can be fast, but its more uncommon. Its even more uncommon for them to have quick 40 times. There are exceptions like Randy Moss, but for the most part the taller you are the more difficult it is to run fast.
I wonder what the average height is of the all time top 20 times. I bet there are very few 6'4 or taller
If he can run anywhere close to a 4.3 then I think being a TE at OU is a waste. We've shown that we are unwilling to get the TE involved in the offense.
Thanks for the research Jcon. I figured most of the guys on the list would be 6' or shorter. I've been involved with track most of my life and its not the norm for sprinters to be very tall. Carl Lewis, at 6'2, seemed much taller than everyone else. Bolt, of course, is the rare exception.
Not quite sure about that Jcon. Most 100 meter world record holders are not tall athletes. Same goes for distance runners who tend to be on the short side and stride length is really not a factor. Its been my experience that the taller athletes tend to excel in events such as the high jump, hurdles, 400 and maybe the 200. Shorter events, such as the 100 and certainly a 40 yr dash, favor the shorter more explosive athletes.
Here is a short list of some of the best sprinters in history. There are a few exceptions but it looks like most are around 6 ft or shorter
Maurice Greene 5'9 1/2
Leroy Burell 6'
Carl Lewis 6'2
Ben Johnson 5'10
Donovan Bailey 6'1
Asafa Powell 6'3
Justin Gatlin 6'1
Usain Bolt 6'5
Tyson Gay 5'10
Tim Montgomery 5'10
Calvin Smith 5'10
Bob Hayes 5'11
Jesse Owens 5'10
Linford Christie 6'2
Frankie Fredericks 5'11
Dennis Mitchell 5'9
Here is a short list of some of the best sprinters in history. There are a few exceptions but it looks like most are around 6 ft or shorter
Maurice Greene 5'9 1/2
Leroy Burell 6'
Carl Lewis 6'2
Ben Johnson 5'10
Donovan Bailey 6'1
Asafa Powell 6'3
Justin Gatlin 6'1
Usain Bolt 6'5
Tyson Gay 5'10
Tim Montgomery 5'10
Calvin Smith 5'10
Bob Hayes 5'11
Jesse Owens 5'10
Linford Christie 6'2
Frankie Fredericks 5'11
Dennis Mitchell 5'9
No way is he 4.3 and maybe 195 on in pads. He played defense as well and had actually earned a defensive award in the Oklahoman. He does have legit speed, maybe 4.5 on a good day but he is faster than he looks. Tall and skinny. I thought he would end up at an Ivy League school possibly...agree with other poster... Will never see field at OU. Not the talent or arm for oklahoma.
Horribly slow release. Bad mechanics. Good HS team with some get open guys. D1 defense will eat his lunch.
