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Not sure who deserves top billing. Since he's a player, I'd choose Mayfield. Folks, I believe we have found ourselves a quarterback. Quarterbacks have to have all sorts of attributes, besides being able to know everything about the offense, execute, be fundamentally sound in everything from making handoffs to throwing a tight spiral. But its about three things more than anything else. First you have to be a leader, second you have to make plays and third you have to not killer yourself with mistakes.

For a guy supposed to be too short and too slow, he has the playmaking gene we haven't seen since that kid quarterbacking the Eagles now. I don't know how many tackles he broke scrambling tonight, but it was easily more than 20. And against all those athletes on an SEC defense with their crowd going crazy.

He threw two picks. One was half on him, for a high throw on the first possession, but it was as much alligator arms on Westbrook. BTW,Dede, ,you're not in juco any more. I know you were a star there. I thought Mayfield was terrific for three quarters and brilliant for one plus overtime. It's just he wasn't getting much help for the first three. But there is a charisma about him that is difference making. We're going to have to live with some imperfect throws and maybe some at very inopportune times. And we're also going to have to fear for his body beating over the course of 13 games. But feel pretty confident that we have OUr quarterback. And while Landry made some throws that Baker can only aspire to, I don't know if we've seen a quarterback make lemonade more in the Stoops era.

He's not an elite NFL guy like Sammy. And won't be as prolific. But in this day when defense can dictate what you can do, at least some, and when we have maybe the least effective OLine since late 2001, Baker can take a broken play and make something really good happen. Living his dream? Might end up being OUr dream.

Billing 1A goes to the other Stoops brother. (btw, a great night for the brothers Stoops. Mark's guys beat the old ball coach tonight in Columbia, South Carolina) OU's defense had trouble with one little UTenn offensive abnormality in the first half. They were running an inside zone read. Instead of blocking down and leaving the outside box defender unblocked and reading his reaction, they left the three technique unblocked and even with less space, the less mobile DT, couldn't take the runner and the quarterback and was easier to read.

Everything UTenn did in the first half was based on how well that was working. It set up play action. But mostly, we didn't really stop it. But it was fixed at halftime. The gaps all got counted. And it looked a lot more like most of game one. Without the shutdown, the offense wouldn't have a chance to catch up. It was a brilliant performance by a much maligned DC. The Vols were and are a really good offensive team.

I think Zach Sanchez is the best corner at OU in years. He gives up a play occasionally, but what corner doesn't. Zach makes plays. And tonight, with sizable backs and a run game intent on making him make tackles against those guys, was a little tentative on the first one, and then got it done afterward. And then he made a pick to end the game. He spends most of his time on an island and he stands up incredibly well. And he is the rare corner who is good in man and good in zone.

I think that the combination of Walker and Wade might be getting it. Both had some big time push tonight when it was most needed. Walker seems to have become a factor. A play maker. An occupier of blockers. And Wade did the same. And when it got really close to must stop time, they played together in the fourth on the most crucial downs.

There was some greatness from the OC again. The Mixon running the zone read with Perine the RB was something good. And the little sublte move on fourth down for the tying touchdown was really the difference in the game. Running apparent zone read with Perine heading right to left, but really running the quarterback lead was wonderful. And that kid from Lake Travis showed he's a plus runner given a chance. Landry Jones doesn't make that play. Neither does Bradford. Having that there for fourth and goal from the two with the game on the line is the difference between one and one and 2-0.

Somebody teach OUr defenders how to recover a fumble.

Shep cost us some serious field position in the first half and early second for letting punts hit the ground three or four times. But he made catches with the game on the line that only great players make. I think he shed a tear or two when it was over. Great play for the final touchdown. Greater play for the first touchdown that made it 17-10.

What a difference wide right made when it was 17-3. Even more cruicial, and brilliant stand when it was 17-3 late third and Baker threw his second pick. Pretty sure the receiver ran a very unexpected route. But the defense didn't just hold them. They shoved them back. And once Mike saw how it was being blocked, he mixed up the blitzes in such a way that Butch wouldn't let his quarterback make a mistake. And the run plays that had worked so well in the first half, just weren't there in the second. That defensive series of downs after the interception, was the absolute key to the game. So long as it was only 14, there was still a chance.

Bob, please somebody besides number 5.

We got a break on the last regulation TD drive. Pretty sure Alvarez jumped a crucial snap count. But then they got Westbrook for holding on the next snap.

First time I remember Sooner Magic since maybe Trevor's Sugar Bowl. It is so much sweeter when it comes in SEC territory.

Any questions?
 
Not sure who deserves top billing. Since he's a player, I'd choose Mayfield. Folks, I believe we have found ourselves a quarterback. Quarterbacks have to have all sorts of attributes, besides being able to know everything about the offense, execute, be fundamentally sound in everything from making handoffs to throwing a tight spiral. But its about three things more than anything else. First you have to be a leader, second you have to make plays and third you have to not killer yourself with mistakes.

For a guy supposed to be too short and too slow, he has the playmaking gene we haven't seen since that kid quarterbacking the Eagles now. I don't know how many tackles he broke scrambling tonight, but it was easily more than 20. And against all those athletes on an SEC defense with their crowd going crazy.

He threw two picks. One was half on him, for a high throw on the first possession, but it was as much alligator arms on Westbrook. BTW,Dede, ,you're not in juco any more. I know you were a star there. I thought Mayfield was terrific for three quarters and brilliant for one plus overtime. It's just he wasn't getting much help for the first three. But there is a charisma about him that is difference making. We're going to have to live with some imperfect throws and maybe some at very inopportune times. And we're also going to have to fear for his body beating over the course of 13 games. But feel pretty confident that we have OUr quarterback. And while Landry made some throws that Baker can only aspire to, I don't know if we've seen a quarterback make lemonade more in the Stoops era.

He's not an elite NFL guy like Sammy. And won't be as prolific. But in this day when defense can dictate what you can do, at least some, and when we have maybe the least effective OLine since late 2001, Baker can take a broken play and make something really good happen. Living his dream? Might end up being OUr dream.

Billing 1A goes to the other Stoops brother. (btw, a great night for the brothers Stoops. Mark's guys beat the old ball coach tonight in Columbia, South Carolina) OU's defense had trouble with one little UTenn offensive abnormality in the first half. They were running an inside zone read. Instead of blocking down and leaving the outside box defender unblocked and reading his reaction, they left the three technique unblocked and even with less space, the less mobile DT, couldn't take the runner and the quarterback and was easier to read.

Everything UTenn did in the first half was based on how well that was working. It set up play action. But mostly, we didn't really stop it. But it was fixed at halftime. The gaps all got counted. And it looked a lot more like most of game one. Without the shutdown, the offense wouldn't have a chance to catch up. It was a brilliant performance by a much maligned DC. The Vols were and are a really good offensive team.

I think Zach Sanchez is the best corner at OU in years. He gives up a play occasionally, but what corner doesn't. Zach makes plays. And tonight, with sizable backs and a run game intent on making him make tackles against those guys, was a little tentative on the first one, and then got it done afterward. And then he made a pick to end the game. He spends most of his time on an island and he stands up incredibly well. And he is the rare corner who is good in man and good in zone.

I think that the combination of Walker and Wade might be getting it. Both had some big time push tonight when it was most needed. Walker seems to have become a factor. A play maker. An occupier of blockers. And Wade did the same. And when it got really close to must stop time, they played together in the fourth on the most crucial downs.

There was some greatness from the OC again. The Mixon running the zone read with Perine the RB was something good. And the little sublte move on fourth down for the tying touchdown was really the difference in the game. Running apparent zone read with Perine heading right to left, but really running the quarterback lead was wonderful. And that kid from Lake Travis showed he's a plus runner given a chance. Landry Jones doesn't make that play. Neither does Bradford. Having that there for fourth and goal from the two with the game on the line is the difference between one and one and 2-0.

Somebody teach OUr defenders how to recover a fumble.

Shep cost us some serious field position in the first half and early second for letting punts hit the ground three or four times. But he made catches with the game on the line that only great players make. I think he shed a tear or two when it was over. Great play for the final touchdown. Greater play for the first touchdown that made it 17-10.

What a difference wide right made when it was 17-3. Even more cruicial, and brilliant stand when it was 17-3 late third and Baker threw his second pick. Pretty sure the receiver ran a very unexpected route. But the defense didn't just hold them. They shoved them back. And once Mike saw how it was being blocked, he mixed up the blitzes in such a way that Butch wouldn't let his quarterback make a mistake. And the run plays that had worked so well in the first half, just weren't there in the second. That defensive series of downs after the interception, was the absolute key to the game. So long as it was only 14, there was still a chance.

Bob, please somebody besides number 5.

We got a break on the last regulation TD drive. Pretty sure Alvarez jumped a crucial snap count. But then they got Westbrook for holding on the next snap.

First time I remember Sooner Magic since maybe Trevor's Sugar Bowl. It is so much sweeter when it comes in SEC territory.

Any questions?

Nope, no questions.
You covered everything assiduously.:cool:
 
Sanchez is average....the Thomas duo is terrible. Secondary as well as oline need to improve drastically before big 12 play
 
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Good analysis as usual Plaino. Very impressed with Mayfield and the D. Frustrated with No. 5 too. With the two juco receivers and Shep playing so well is the WR corps that thin? Not good for down the road.
 
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Sanchez is average....the Thomas duo is terrible. Secondary as well as oline need to improve drastically before big 12 play

I knew you didn't know much, but holy cow. Were you drunk by the second quarter?

K2C, as I went to edit this, and insert the Yankees' quote, it's here already, but just not showing up in my post. On these nights when the post count increases tenfold or more, strange things happens.

I was responding to this: Sanchez is average....the Thomas duo is terrible. Secondary as well as oline need to improve drastically before big 12 play
 
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I knew you didn't know much, but holy cow. Were you drunk by the second quarter?

K2C, as I went to edit this, and insert the Yankees' quote, it's here already, but just not showing up in my post. On these nights when the post count increases tenfold or more, strange things happens.

I was responding to this: Sanchez is average....the Thomas duo is terrible. Secondary as well as oline need to improve drastically before big 12 play


Sorry, I should have known. I have them on ignore......
 
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I have a question....Why didn't we use the tight end tonight and early in the game? Readers Digest answer will be fine...........;)

They are doing a lot of spread plays that are quick throws and the receivers have to block for each other. Second series, we ran a quick throw to Shep on the right sideline and their db blew it up, because Andrews just whiffed on the block. I don't think he touched the defender. The quickness was more important I guess.

He made a couple of plays in the fourth. One of them because they tried to cover him with a linebacker. Also keep in mind that when we play Perine and Mixon on the same snap, unless it's short yardage, we aren't likely to use a tight end. I kinda like those two on the field together.
 
They are doing a lot of spread plays that are quick throws and the receivers have to block for each other. Second series, we ran a quick throw to Shep on the right sideline and their db blew it up, because Andrews just whiffed on the block. I don't think he touched the defender. The quickness was more important I guess.

He made a couple of plays in the fourth. One of them because they tried to cover him with a linebacker. Also keep in mind that when we play Perine and Mixon on the same snap, unless it's short yardage, we aren't likely to use a tight end. I kinda like those two on the field together.


You saw that missed block too? I can not for the life of me see you getting so much from a televised game in a bar....LOL

Okay, was the DB's as good as they looked tonight? You can wait to see a replay for an answer. To me, the safeties, esp, Parker looked great and both CB's played pretty good coverage. Look forward to your answer............
 
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Two other things I meant to mention. One is that Mixon just looks like he belongs. He'll be more spectacular offensively when the game starts to slow down. But he has poise like a guy barely 19 with four quarters of experience coming in, don't often show. He didn't play any football from the end of his senior fall season, until last spring. He's not in awe. We' are already counting on him a lot.

The other is more Riley. The most important thing logistically tonight was that we consistently were getting the play call with 20 or more seconds left. It left time to get everybody notified on audible. Get the shifting done and we're starting the snap count with ten or more seconds left. It is very impressive. With that kind of noise, you can't do anything if you haven't mastered that.

In the post game presser, a scribe told Bob that they set some sort of noise record tonight. Not sure if that was local, or bigger than that, but to win with that, and down 17 is a real tribute to the whole program. Afterward, Bob told the team that "everybody in the room ......... gets a game ball."

That game tonight, is why players come to OU.
 
K2C, I coached youth football for more than 30 years, half of it of it in times before it was common to video the games. So when you do that, if you're going to be any good at it, you have to be able to see the ball, but within seeing everybody on the screen. I can't do that as well as our quarterbacks, but if you ever watched a game with me, I can tell you stuff, before the replay, that just happened.

When I coached, I could usually see at least 16 guys. And in scrimmages when we were behind the offense, 20-22. If you're going to teach, you have to be able to see it all. On tv, I can still see the ball in that context depending on how many are on the screen. But I can see the blocking pattern, and most of the fits on defense.

I did some radio analyst work over 30 years ago and had a lot of fun at it,, but they kinda mooched on the pay. I told them they didn't have to pay me much, but they did have to pay me some. From a press box where I am most Friday nights, I can see the whole deal pretty easily. But now that I'm 64, seeing the numbers drives me crazy. And in my ST job, the latter is more important. The paper doesn't really care if I knew why a play worked, even though I prefer that.
 
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Well that's why your so respected by most on this board. You can see so many things a common viewer would have to have pointed out to their face. I caught the the missed block by Andrews and wondered if anyway else did....you did.

Don't let the detractors on this board get you down. Keep up the great work................ And go to sleep, I've already had my 4 hrs.........LOL
 
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Not sure who deserves top billing. Since he's a player, I'd choose Mayfield. Folks, I believe we have found ourselves a quarterback. Quarterbacks have to have all sorts of attributes, besides being able to know everything about the offense, execute, be fundamentally sound in everything from making handoffs to throwing a tight spiral. But its about three things more than anything else. First you have to be a leader, second you have to make plays and third you have to not killer yourself with mistakes.

For a guy supposed to be too short and too slow, he has the playmaking gene we haven't seen since that kid quarterbacking the Eagles now. I don't know how many tackles he broke scrambling tonight, but it was easily more than 20. And against all those athletes on an SEC defense with their crowd going crazy.

He threw two picks. One was half on him, for a high throw on the first possession, but it was as much alligator arms on Westbrook. BTW,Dede, ,you're not in juco any more. I know you were a star there. I thought Mayfield was terrific for three quarters and brilliant for one plus overtime. It's just he wasn't getting much help for the first three. But there is a charisma about him that is difference making. We're going to have to live with some imperfect throws and maybe some at very inopportune times. And we're also going to have to fear for his body beating over the course of 13 games. But feel pretty confident that we have OUr quarterback. And while Landry made some throws that Baker can only aspire to, I don't know if we've seen a quarterback make lemonade more in the Stoops era.

He's not an elite NFL guy like Sammy. And won't be as prolific. But in this day when defense can dictate what you can do, at least some, and when we have maybe the least effective OLine since late 2001, Baker can take a broken play and make something really good happen. Living his dream? Might end up being OUr dream.

Billing 1A goes to the other Stoops brother. (btw, a great night for the brothers Stoops. Mark's guys beat the old ball coach tonight in Columbia, South Carolina) OU's defense had trouble with one little UTenn offensive abnormality in the first half. They were running an inside zone read. Instead of blocking down and leaving the outside box defender unblocked and reading his reaction, they left the three technique unblocked and even with less space, the less mobile DT, couldn't take the runner and the quarterback and was easier to read.

Everything UTenn did in the first half was based on how well that was working. It set up play action. But mostly, we didn't really stop it. But it was fixed at halftime. The gaps all got counted. And it looked a lot more like most of game one. Without the shutdown, the offense wouldn't have a chance to catch up. It was a brilliant performance by a much maligned DC. The Vols were and are a really good offensive team.

I think Zach Sanchez is the best corner at OU in years. He gives up a play occasionally, but what corner doesn't. Zach makes plays. And tonight, with sizable backs and a run game intent on making him make tackles against those guys, was a little tentative on the first one, and then got it done afterward. And then he made a pick to end the game. He spends most of his time on an island and he stands up incredibly well. And he is the rare corner who is good in man and good in zone.

I think that the combination of Walker and Wade might be getting it. Both had some big time push tonight when it was most needed. Walker seems to have become a factor. A play maker. An occupier of blockers. And Wade did the same. And when it got really close to must stop time, they played together in the fourth on the most crucial downs.

There was some greatness from the OC again. The Mixon running the zone read with Perine the RB was something good. And the little sublte move on fourth down for the tying touchdown was really the difference in the game. Running apparent zone read with Perine heading right to left, but really running the quarterback lead was wonderful. And that kid from Lake Travis showed he's a plus runner given a chance. Landry Jones doesn't make that play. Neither does Bradford. Having that there for fourth and goal from the two with the game on the line is the difference between one and one and 2-0.

Somebody teach OUr defenders how to recover a fumble.

Shep cost us some serious field position in the first half and early second for letting punts hit the ground three or four times. But he made catches with the game on the line that only great players make. I think he shed a tear or two when it was over. Great play for the final touchdown. Greater play for the first touchdown that made it 17-10.

What a difference wide right made when it was 17-3. Even more cruicial, and brilliant stand when it was 17-3 late third and Baker threw his second pick. Pretty sure the receiver ran a very unexpected route. But the defense didn't just hold them. They shoved them back. And once Mike saw how it was being blocked, he mixed up the blitzes in such a way that Butch wouldn't let his quarterback make a mistake. And the run plays that had worked so well in the first half, just weren't there in the second. That defensive series of downs after the interception, was the absolute key to the game. So long as it was only 14, there was still a chance.

Bob, please somebody besides number 5.

We got a break on the last regulation TD drive. Pretty sure Alvarez jumped a crucial snap count. But then they got Westbrook for holding on the next snap.

First time I remember Sooner Magic since maybe Trevor's Sugar Bowl. It is so much sweeter when it comes in SEC territory.

Any questions?
I'll keep it simple.
This was a great confidence gainer for a young OU team and a win that now allows OU to improve over the next three weeks before playing West Virginia at home on 10/03. Lots of work to do by the players and coaches ahead and from my own observation, there's good talent on board to make it happen....and now, no more quarterbacking questions.
Coming from 14 points behind in the fourth quarter, on the road, in front of 100,000-plus fans made this game one of OU's biggest wins in the Stoops' era.....it will be even bigger if Tennessee ends up having a good season.
My favorite play was Perine's block at the goal line that allowed Mayfield to score for OU's tying touchdown on 4th down in the first overtime.
I'm also thankful for the non-call in OU's favor....the pass interference call in the end zone that was not a catchable ball. Bad call by the zebras.
 
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In all fairness to #5 Durron Neal, he had two receptions on two scoring drives. The first was a 29 yard reception on the field goal drive. The second one in the drive where Perine caught the TD pass to make it 17-10.
 
I don't know what happened in the last four drives. We had spent the entire afternoon making small mistakes to kill drives. Some were obvious. Some were not. We kept throwing behind receivers by about a yard on crossing routes allowing the defender to get to the ball. We kept throwing fly patterns in which we weren't really behind the defense. We didn't really take advantage of the fact that they were watching the run and hit them behind the linebackers on passes.

The offensive line couldn't run block, which isn't new. But, the inexperience was letting one or two people to penetrate on every play, like there was a blitz on every play. At least, I hope it was inexperience. It was easy to see the bad that the OL did. But, they also did some good things. Inconsistency.

The problem was no different than it has been---execution. It was like we hadn't run these plays in practice. at about fourteen left in the game, I was wondering if we would score a hundred points this year.

Then, I saw something I hadn't seen since 2000---determination. Mayfield refused to lose. I don't know if he has the talent to win. I didn't see it. But, he did have the determination not to lose. The next four drives were so unlike what the first 46 minutes had been to make me wonder if it was just that it takes a while to adjust to a new offense, like three quarters in every game. It went from not flowing to looking easy. The only difference was execution. the little mistakes were eliminated. Tennessee wasn't talented enough to beat us. We had to beat ourselves. I just didn't see anything in UT that I hadn't seen better a lot of times.

We hadn't seen that type of leadership since Josh. We weren't as bad as we looked for 46 minutes, and we weren't as good as our leadership made us look in the last four drives. We did have some individual talent step up: Shepard, Perine. But, it was the raw determination that won the game. It created flow when there had been none. Loved Perine's block. Loved Shepard's dive for a TD.

Incidentally, for those who complained, sometimes you use a guy like Shepard at punt returner simply because he's the only one that doesn't fumble punts.

One turnover for UT---the last play.
 
I don't know what happened in the last four drives. We had spent the entire afternoon making small mistakes to kill drives. Some were obvious. Some were not. We kept throwing behind receivers by about a yard on crossing routes allowing the defender to get to the ball. We kept throwing fly patterns in which we weren't really behind the defense. We didn't really take advantage of the fact that they were watching the run and hit them behind the linebackers on passes.

The offensive line couldn't run block, which isn't new. But, the inexperience was letting one or two people to penetrate on every play, like there was a blitz on every play. At least, I hope it was inexperience. It was easy to see the bad that the OL did. But, they also did some good things. Inconsistency.

The problem was no different than it has been---execution. It was like we hadn't run these plays in practice. at about fourteen left in the game, I was wondering if we would score a hundred points this year.

Then, I saw something I hadn't seen since 2000---determination. Mayfield refused to lose. I don't know if he has the talent to win. I didn't see it. But, he did have the determination not to lose. The next four drives were so unlike what the first 46 minutes had been to make me wonder if it was just that it takes a while to adjust to a new offense, like three quarters in every game. It went from not flowing to looking easy. The only difference was execution. the little mistakes were eliminated. Tennessee wasn't talented enough to beat us. We had to beat ourselves. I just didn't see anything in UT that I hadn't seen better a lot of times.

We hadn't seen that type of leadership since Josh. We weren't as bad as we looked for 46 minutes, and we weren't as good as our leadership made us look in the last four drives. We did have some individual talent step up: Shepard, Perine. But, it was the raw determination that won the game. It created flow when there had been none. Loved Perine's block. Loved Shepard's dive for a TD.

Incidentally, for those who complained, sometimes you use a guy like Shepard at punt returner simply because he's the only one that doesn't fumble punts.

One turnover for UT---the last play.
Well stated, Sybarite.
More than anything else, OU won this game out of shear determination and resiliency.
 
The refs had a bad night. The missed interference call on UT in the 3rd quarter at the 8:03 mark was as obvious as the missed motion call on OU down on the goal line, except that Dede was called for holding the next play, which set us back 10 yards. The missed interference call resulted in another 4th down punt by OU instead of a first down at a time we really needed one if for nothing else field position. Except for one punt, Seibert did a great job punting especially considering where he was punting from. Oh, and the quick whistle that took away a TD was major. No quick whistle play.....no overtime needed as the Sooners would have won in the fourth quarter. I know I am going to have this discussion with a Vol that has to buy a Sooner Nike T-shirt, wear it to a UT bar next weekend and send me the T-shirt and a picture of him in the bar with his Vols friends. Sweet!
 
I don't know what happened in the last four drives. We had spent the entire afternoon making small mistakes to kill drives. Some were obvious. Some were not. We kept throwing behind receivers by about a yard on crossing routes allowing the defender to get to the ball. We kept throwing fly patterns in which we weren't really behind the defense. We didn't really take advantage of the fact that they were watching the run and hit them behind the linebackers on passes.

The offensive line couldn't run block, which isn't new. But, the inexperience was letting one or two people to penetrate on every play, like there was a blitz on every play. At least, I hope it was inexperience. It was easy to see the bad that the OL did. But, they also did some good things. Inconsistency.

The problem was no different than it has been---execution. It was like we hadn't run these plays in practice. at about fourteen left in the game, I was wondering if we would score a hundred points this year.

Then, I saw something I hadn't seen since 2000---determination. Mayfield refused to lose. I don't know if he has the talent to win. I didn't see it. But, he did have the determination not to lose. The next four drives were so unlike what the first 46 minutes had been to make me wonder if it was just that it takes a while to adjust to a new offense, like three quarters in every game. It went from not flowing to looking easy. The only difference was execution. the little mistakes were eliminated. Tennessee wasn't talented enough to beat us. We had to beat ourselves. I just didn't see anything in UT that I hadn't seen better a lot of times.

We hadn't seen that type of leadership since Josh. We weren't as bad as we looked for 46 minutes, and we weren't as good as our leadership made us look in the last four drives. We did have some individual talent step up: Shepard, Perine. But, it was the raw determination that won the game. It created flow when there had been none. Loved Perine's block. Loved Shepard's dive for a TD.

Incidentally, for those who complained, sometimes you use a guy like Shepard at punt returner simply because he's the only one that doesn't fumble punts.

One turnover for UT---the last play.

Great post syb!!!
 
The refs had a bad night. The missed interference call on UT in the 3rd quarter at the 8:03 mark was as obvious as the missed motion call on OU down on the goal line, except that Dede was called for holding the next play, which set us back 10 yards. The missed interference call resulted in another 4th down punt by OU instead of a first down at a time we really needed one if for nothing else field position. Except for one punt, Seibert did a great job punting especially considering where he was punting from. Oh, and the quick whistle that took away a TD was major. No quick whistle play.....no overtime needed as the Sooners would have won in the fourth quarter. I know I am going to have this discussion with a Vol that has to buy a Sooner Nike T-shirt, wear it to a UT bar next weekend and send me the T-shirt and a picture of him in the bar with his Vols friends. Sweet!


I was shocked on the fumble for a TD. A very bad call. At least we didn't fold.......................


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First off k2c stop with the fake ignore. When someone actually ignores someone, they don't feel the need to announce it daily. Act your age. Plaino best secondary guy in some time at OU? I'm hoping you are only going back a few years. He isn't even as good as colvin. Seeing how he is this good on your mind, he should at least make all conference right? High draft pick right? Lol. Care to have a friendly wager on that? Anyways I don't think the guy sucks and I won't trash him continuously like some others have, but I'm not building him up to be something he isn't like you are.
 
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I think the wound up huge crowd actually got into the refs minds. Some of those calls were classic dumbass. The Vols QB would not have forward progress if he's being sacked....does not matter if you are seeing it through Crimson/Big 12 or Orange/SEC glasses. Botched call...
 
Of course I only made it through about 8 sentences (TL;DR), but I wholly agree. Mayfield will have his ups and downs, but OU needs to stick with this kid. Slippery in the pocket and tough.

I do wish he'd settle down just a little. Love the emotion, but he looks so erratic out there at times and all of the high hard ones he threw last night show how amped he is. That should come with more time.
 
The refs had a bad night. The missed interference call on UT in the 3rd quarter at the 8:03 mark was as obvious as the missed motion call on OU down on the goal line, except that Dede was called for holding the next play, which set us back 10 yards. The missed interference call resulted in another 4th down punt by OU instead of a first down at a time we really needed one if for nothing else field position. Except for one punt, Seibert did a great job punting especially considering where he was punting from. Oh, and the quick whistle that took away a TD was major. No quick whistle play.....no overtime needed as the Sooners would have won in the fourth quarter. I know I am going to have this discussion with a Vol that has to buy a Sooner Nike T-shirt, wear it to a UT bar next weekend and send me the T-shirt and a picture of him in the bar with his Vols friends. Sweet!
I knew the refs were questionable when they had trouble facing the camera when announcing the penalty.
 
Not sure who deserves top billing. Since he's a player, I'd choose Mayfield. Folks, I believe we have found ourselves a quarterback. Quarterbacks have to have all sorts of attributes, besides being able to know everything about the offense, execute, be fundamentally sound in everything from making handoffs to throwing a tight spiral. But its about three things more than anything else. First you have to be a leader, second you have to make plays and third you have to not killer yourself with mistakes.

For a guy supposed to be too short and too slow, he has the playmaking gene we haven't seen since that kid quarterbacking the Eagles now. I don't know how many tackles he broke scrambling tonight, but it was easily more than 20. And against all those athletes on an SEC defense with their crowd going crazy.

He threw two picks. One was half on him, for a high throw on the first possession, but it was as much alligator arms on Westbrook. BTW,Dede, ,you're not in juco any more. I know you were a star there. I thought Mayfield was terrific for three quarters and brilliant for one plus overtime. It's just he wasn't getting much help for the first three. But there is a charisma about him that is difference making. We're going to have to live with some imperfect throws and maybe some at very inopportune times. And we're also going to have to fear for his body beating over the course of 13 games. But feel pretty confident that we have OUr quarterback. And while Landry made some throws that Baker can only aspire to, I don't know if we've seen a quarterback make lemonade more in the Stoops era.

He's not an elite NFL guy like Sammy. And won't be as prolific. But in this day when defense can dictate what you can do, at least some, and when we have maybe the least effective OLine since late 2001, Baker can take a broken play and make something really good happen. Living his dream? Might end up being OUr dream.

Billing 1A goes to the other Stoops brother. (btw, a great night for the brothers Stoops. Mark's guys beat the old ball coach tonight in Columbia, South Carolina) OU's defense had trouble with one little UTenn offensive abnormality in the first half. They were running an inside zone read. Instead of blocking down and leaving the outside box defender unblocked and reading his reaction, they left the three technique unblocked and even with less space, the less mobile DT, couldn't take the runner and the quarterback and was easier to read.

Everything UTenn did in the first half was based on how well that was working. It set up play action. But mostly, we didn't really stop it. But it was fixed at halftime. The gaps all got counted. And it looked a lot more like most of game one. Without the shutdown, the offense wouldn't have a chance to catch up. It was a brilliant performance by a much maligned DC. The Vols were and are a really good offensive team.

I think Zach Sanchez is the best corner at OU in years. He gives up a play occasionally, but what corner doesn't. Zach makes plays. And tonight, with sizable backs and a run game intent on making him make tackles against those guys, was a little tentative on the first one, and then got it done afterward. And then he made a pick to end the game. He spends most of his time on an island and he stands up incredibly well. And he is the rare corner who is good in man and good in zone.

I think that the combination of Walker and Wade might be getting it. Both had some big time push tonight when it was most needed. Walker seems to have become a factor. A play maker. An occupier of blockers. And Wade did the same. And when it got really close to must stop time, they played together in the fourth on the most crucial downs.

There was some greatness from the OC again. The Mixon running the zone read with Perine the RB was something good. And the little sublte move on fourth down for the tying touchdown was really the difference in the game. Running apparent zone read with Perine heading right to left, but really running the quarterback lead was wonderful. And that kid from Lake Travis showed he's a plus runner given a chance. Landry Jones doesn't make that play. Neither does Bradford. Having that there for fourth and goal from the two with the game on the line is the difference between one and one and 2-0.

Somebody teach OUr defenders how to recover a fumble.

Shep cost us some serious field position in the first half and early second for letting punts hit the ground three or four times. But he made catches with the game on the line that only great players make. I think he shed a tear or two when it was over. Great play for the final touchdown. Greater play for the first touchdown that made it 17-10.

What a difference wide right made when it was 17-3. Even more cruicial, and brilliant stand when it was 17-3 late third and Baker threw his second pick. Pretty sure the receiver ran a very unexpected route. But the defense didn't just hold them. They shoved them back. And once Mike saw how it was being blocked, he mixed up the blitzes in such a way that Butch wouldn't let his quarterback make a mistake. And the run plays that had worked so well in the first half, just weren't there in the second. That defensive series of downs after the interception, was the absolute key to the game. So long as it was only 14, there was still a chance.

Bob, please somebody besides number 5.

We got a break on the last regulation TD drive. Pretty sure Alvarez jumped a crucial snap count. But then they got Westbrook for holding on the next snap.

First time I remember Sooner Magic since maybe Trevor's Sugar Bowl. It is so much sweeter when it comes in SEC territory.

Any questions?
The great Mike Stoops proved why Bob brought him back and why he is the best D coordinator in the land. The Stoops led D is really good up front and the linebackers are sick. The back end of the D will get better and better as the season goes on. I will fall on the sword for Mike Stoops
 
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The great Mike Stoops proved why Bob brought him back and why he is the best D coordinator in the land. The Stoops led D is really good up front and the linebackers are sick. The back end of the D will get better and better as the season goes on. I will fall on the sword for Mike Stoops

I REALLY hope you are right. I thought the same time at this point in the season last year and his defense turned out to be garbage later on. I give him props on this game. It was very well coached, played and the effort was over all striking. I'll wait a bit longer to form an opinion though. I think he has it in him to be a really great D coordinator, but what happened last year was terrible.

If he wants another shot at head coach, he's going to have to sustain a really good D long term.
 
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AbsoluteZero nailed it. A few games into last season there were some on here saying OU had a championship caliber defense. The tide turned not long after that.
I think last night could be a huge turning point for Mike and the defense. I have no doubt Mikes boys on defense are the reason OU won last night. But let's wait and see how the rest of the season plays out before claiming one game proves Mike and erases the defensive debacles of the last few seasons
 
The great Mike Stoops proved why Bob brought him back and why he is the best D coordinator in the land. The Stoops led D is really good up front and the linebackers are sick. The back end of the D will get better and better as the season goes on. I will fall on the sword for Mike Stoops
Look.... Ou will play against better offenses down the road but they passed there first test with flying colors. The D just comes at you in waves
 
My text to my UT bubby that attended the game. "Hell of a game". His reply, "Yep, Felt when we didn't go for touchdown in the first quarter (our) coach blew it". I assume he is referring to the missed FG. I don't know if I agree that that was a big factor considering UT was up 17-3 until 8 minutes remained in regulation. Bottom line, UT was much less aggressive after taking the 14 point lead, and OU's coaches did a much better job at halftime...but IMO the biggest reason for the win was our players' continuance to play hard, not give up, and battle though early mistakes. They showed a lot of class, which should go a long way in preparing them to play through other difficulties that will undoubtedly come about this season. I think this is a better win that the Bama game, and I am happy to see that Mike Stoops and Eric Striker proclaimed the same after the game. Bob giving out game balls to everyone speaks volumes how he feels. Great game Coaches and players.
 
My text to my UT bubby that attended the game. "Hell of a game". His reply, "Yep, Felt when we didn't go for touchdown in the first quarter (our) coach blew it". I assume he is referring to the missed FG. I don't know if I agree that that was a big factor considering UT was up 17-3 until 8 minutes remained in regulation. Bottom line, UT was much less aggressive after taking the 14 point lead, and OU's coaches did a much better job at halftime...but IMO the biggest reason for the win was our players' continuance to play hard, not give up, and battle though early mistakes. They showed a lot of class, which should go a long way in preparing them to play through other difficulties that will undoubtedly come about this season. I think this is a better win that the Bama game, and I am happy to see that Mike Stoops and Eric Striker proclaimed the same after the game. Bob giving out game balls to everyone speaks volumes how he feels. Great game Coaches and players.

Yep, Bob even gave game balls to the team chaplain and the game Dr. that is at every OU game. I hope Joe C. has enough money in the budget for that!
Ha!
 
The refs had a bad night. The missed interference call on UT in the 3rd quarter at the 8:03 mark was as obvious as the missed motion call on OU down on the goal line, except that Dede was called for holding the next play, which set us back 10 yards. The missed interference call resulted in another 4th down punt by OU instead of a first down at a time we really needed one if for nothing else field position. Except for one punt, Seibert did a great job punting especially considering where he was punting from. Oh, and the quick whistle that took away a TD was major. No quick whistle play.....no overtime needed as the Sooners would have won in the fourth quarter. I know I am going to have this discussion with a Vol that has to buy a Sooner Nike T-shirt, wear it to a UT bar next weekend and send me the T-shirt and a picture of him in the bar with his Vols friends. Sweet!

I don't think the crew was that bad. You do know that they are the best crew in the XII, and worked the Oregon - Ohio State NC game last season?

They have a tendency to let em play, especially the DBs and receivers. The only clearly missed call I saw was the false start on Kasitati on the final possession of regulation. But they made up for it on the next snap. TV replay had no view of the two holding calls on their mike linebacker. But those two calls got our offense going. It turned the momentum. I don't consider the DPI call at the back of the end zone a bad call. The receiver was standing there, and without the obviously early contact, he might have a chance to jump up to catch the ball. I think that the benefit of the doubt has to go to the receiver on that. I think it was close enough to marginal to call it.

We won't play in a tougher venue until November 14 in Waco. No assurances, but the Sooners should be favored in every game until then.
 
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Plaino, I agree except I'm surprised that you didn't think the interference no call against UT in the 3rd quarter wasn't missed. IMO, that was an obvious as the false start that should have been called on OU. You are right about the UT kicker keeping OU pinned deep, and Seibert did a good job too. The thing is, Austin was kicking from within the OU's 20 most of the time. LOL
 
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