What is depth looking like this upcoming season, if Mayfield goes down has anybody looked good this spring?
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That's a hundred dollar question. I doubt anyone can answer your question.
BTW, welcome to the board................
Kendall has to be the number two guy, even if Cody Thomas returns.....and Kendall needs to be good in a hurry.
When all the lofty write ups mention OU contending for a national championship, I have yet to see where OU's depth at QB, or lack thereof, is mentioned, especially with Mayfield having had two concussions in his last three games. We saw what OU's offense was in the second half of the TCU game last year without Mayfield.
I doubt if there's any team in college football that is as dependent on one player as OU is. Some good things need to happen quickly with Kendall or McGinnis or Davis.
OU's fate in 2016 is like that of a trapeze artist performing without a net.
As an armchair QB - and a pretty good one at that, I volunteer my ample services.
Boomer Sooner
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Whatever can be said, or has been said of OU's chances this season, Mayfield's health has to be considered THE most important element for a successful season.
Kendall is a talented player, but a true freshman cannot be realistically considered as a proven commodity at quarterback for a team hoping for a championship of any kind.
If I coached OU this year, I would try to get Mayfield on the sidelines as soon as I considered the game won. Cosmetic or style points would not be a goal.....keeping Mayfield on the field only when the game is still up for grabs and developing Kendall as much as possible would be my intent.
Without Mayfield, it won't matter how the young receivers, linebackers, defensive backs or offensive linemen come through.
Kendall is a talented player, but a true freshman cannot be realistically considered as a proven commodity at quarterback for a team hoping for a championship of any kind.
If I coached OU this year, I would try to get Mayfield on the sidelines as soon as I considered the game won. Cosmetic or style points would not be a goal.....keeping Mayfield on the field only when the game is still up for grabs and developing Kendall as much as possible would be my intent.
Without Mayfield, it won't matter how the young receivers, linebackers, defensive backs or offensive linemen come through.
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Baker got hurt in the TCU game while going down.
I really get your point but even sliding early to prevent an unnecessary hit means nothing to the cheap shot opportunist. They merely trade their place on the field through ejection for the removal of our top star performer (ala the NFL's bounty hit).
A tradeoff the defender may indeed desire. Fortunes have been changed and made in such ways.
I agree with CT. Get Bake May out of the game at the earliest possible opportunity instead of pursuing "style" points.
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TCU was especially adept at this method of improving their team's odds of winning. Baylor also did it a few times.
Wonder if these teams coach it or players just take it on themselves to try to knock opposing players out of the game ... and maybe the season?
TCU's LB knocked Baker out of the game allowing TCU to mount a 2nd half comeback that was nearly completely successful. Don't believe it was a coached hit.
BU's DE Oakman knocked out Trevor in Waco at the end of the 2014 season while Trevor was already down. A penalty was not called against the home team. Oakman was the dirtiest player in the Big 12. I believe Coach Montgomery coached and encouraged such play from hardcore animals such as Oakman. I also believe that blessings were given by Briles to Montgomery regarding such play.
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Soonersincefitty
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I agree DD, that there is a clandestine policy to do just that. I mean, they aren't stupid enough to put it in writing, like in the playbook, but uh, I think it is taught, like how to do it and perhaps only get a flag and not ejected.
Not necessarily the head coach, but his subordinates, and certainly with his tacit approval.
I say this remembering how Miami, with malice and aforethought took Troy Aikman out.
It can be a dirty business.
(twas ever thus)
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If Cody doesnt come back and it comes game time....
1. Baker
2. Kendall
3. Mixon running the wildcat
and I am not kidding
1. Baker
2. Kendall
3. Mixon running the wildcat
and I am not kidding
From what I've read Kendall is actually an upgrade as back up from last year already. I don't subscribe to the theory that just because Baylor struggled w/ a freshman that OU will do the same. In fact, when any school goes to their 3rd QB, you're going to see Freshman QBs in play, if not, that school has an issue with scholarship distribution. Of course, time will tell.
Remember in 2014 the Baylor/OU game was played in Norman. I disliked the Oakman hit on Trevor as much as anyone. But really if you watch any football game there are hits like that all the time when players lay a blow on a player that is right on his way down.
That's right, BillyRay. Does anyone think its really different now than 50 years ago except that everyone is bigger, stronger and faster? I've seen some very iffy blows back in the day and the equipment (helmets especially) were more like egg cartons compared to what the players have now. Football has always been very physical and dangerous.....and dirty. It will remain that way most likely so Bob needs and probably has a plan for "when" Baker gets injured.
I believe that in addition to players being bigger and faster causing more injuries, the other reason is what I perceive as an intent to injure mentality that is much more widespread today than it's ever been.
Oakman's hit on Knight two years ago is one example. Ndamukong Suh's antics are out of control....and I think many fans like what they consider to be Suh's "intensity".
Soonersincefitty
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Yep, there's a big gray area between good, aggressive defensive play and outright causation of permanent or short term injuries.
That's why I don't envy what the refs have to figure out, quickly, in real time.
Everyone thought Jack Tatum was just a bad ass, technically correct safety until he made Darryl Stingley a quad.
Broke his neck that no surgery could fix.
Jack Tatum had that taint on him until he died. (his book is pretty good, 'They called me assassin')
I just hope that they don't muzzle the spirit of the game in the name of safety too much.
It's football for gawd sake, people get hurt.
Nature of the beast.
Of course football is a violent sport, but the violence should be a byproduct of collisions and not the crap Suh dishes out. Big difference.Yep, there's a big gray area between good, aggressive defensive play and outright causation of permanent or short term injuries.
That's why I don't envy what the refs have to figure out, quickly, in real time.
Everyone thought Jack Tatum was just a bad ass, technically correct safety until he made Darryl Stingley a quad.
Broke his neck that no surgery could fix.
Jack Tatum had that taint on him until he died. (his book is pretty good, 'They called me assassin')
I just hope that they don't muzzle the spirit of the game in the name of safety too much.
It's football for gawd sake, people get hurt.
Nature of the beast.
As for Tatum, he was a great player, but his hit on Stingley....in an exhibition game...was over the top. Tatum never expressed remorse and regarded the hit that eventually killed Stingley as his badge of "Woody Hayes honor".
Good point, CT. I had Tatum in mind along with guys like Romanowski, Dobler and Huff. There were plenty dirty NCAA players as well back then, but until cable TV we fans didn't really see a lot of college ball. Today's ever expanding coverage along with players' mindset of just trying to knock the shit out everyone instead of using good basic tackling fundamentals results in dirty play and injuries occurring on both sides of the ball. Plus a lot of missed tackles.
Gotta disagree. IMO, I think the game has been drastically cleaned up in the past 25-30 yrs. The players might be bigger, faster, stronger etc, but they are also 'cleaner' . Rules have been put into the game to protect a QB as well. The game was meaner, tougher, and nastier years back.
The rules protecting the QB are meant to protect from the basic physical nature of the game, which has become more of a problem with the increase in size and speed over the past 5 decades. Those rules do not protect the QB from a cheap hit, however.
Some can gripe about the "pussification" of making rules to protect players, but football is becoming more and more of a violent sport as time goes by....and while you can't protect a player from collisions or having someone roll up his leg or ankle....you can at least try to diminish what Oakman did to Knight or what Suh does too often.
I did see the left hand walk on in the 4th. Sorry, forgot his name. At that time, they were doing more interviews than showing the game.
