Top secret scouting report on Saturday morning opponent at the earliest convenience. Plus any dings in our armor if available. Tia
Plaino or anyone
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I don't think there are a lot of secrets. Baylor reminds a lot of many of Snyder's best KState teams. They played a weak non conference schedule.
Sat, Aug 31
vs S.F. Austin W 56 - 17
Sat, Sep 7
vs UTSA W 63 - 14
Bye Week
Sat, Sep 21
@ Rice W 21 - 13
Sat, Sep 28
vs Iowa St. W 23 - 21
Sat, Oct 5
@ Kansas St. W 31 - 12
Sat, Oct 12
vs Texas Tech W 33 - 30
Sat, Oct 19
@ (25) Oklahoma St. W 45 - 27
Thu, Oct 31
vs West Virginia W 17 - 14
Sat, Nov 9
@ TCU W 29 - 23
Sat, Nov 16
vs (6) Oklahoma L 34 - 31
Sat, Nov 23
vs Texas W 24 - 10
Sat, Nov 30
@ Kansas W 61 - 6
In the conference, they were every bit OUr equal by almost any measure. We got some breaks to come back on them in Waco, where they lead 28-3 two thirds of the way through the 2nd quarter. I thought we were trying to feel our way around missing our biggest offensive threat, CeeDee Lamb. We kind of figured it out after halftime. We went run heavy.
Baylor's defense is really good. They will knock your head off and play a defense that tries to emphasize that. The give you room a lot in the secondary, then come make you pay for catching it. They also hold a runner up occasionally to come deal some punishment. It's clean, but painful. It is universally spoken in the XII this year, that Baylor plays tough, hard hitting defense. They were particularly effective at forcing Hurts turnovers. His streak of ball security issues started that night.
They might have the two best DL's in the conference, 99 and 93. One, Brevvion Roy is huge. The other, James Lynch, is just really really good. They are hard to block. But somehow in Waco, we figured out a way to put up 27 (three TD's two FG's) in the second half. And OUr D, which gave up 31 in the first half, got a shut out after intermission.
Denzel Mims, their best receiver might be the best receiver in the game. He is fast and strong. Great playmaker for three years, even when their team sucked two years ago. He was still the third best receiver in the conference at midseason. But then OSU's stud went down for the year, and CeeDee hasn't been as good since he came back from concussion protocol. His burst seems to be less impactful. OU needs him to look great again this Saturday.
Mostly they have a Steve Davis kind of a quarterback who is more athletic than he looks, and very effective. Charlie Brewer has been terrific all year, especially in the clutch at the end of games. He also threw a pick to Nik Bonitto at the end of game 1. But he got surprised by an early snap and didn't get a good read on the defense, and had moderate quick pressure. And Bonitto made an incredible play. Other than that play, Brewer has been money on end of game drives when it mattered. It's part of why Baylor has been so good in close games. Most Sooner fans know that he is the son and grandson of a Longhorn quarterback. But UT wasn't interested. He was born in Austin and graduated from Lake Travis, nearby.
Baylor hurt OU in the first half in Waco with a number of quarterback draw kinds of plays, with OL's downfield blocking on pass looking snaps. OU adjusted in the second half, until the last possession, and Baylor moved it pretty quickly, until Bonitto's pick. Before that, OU limited the Bears so much, that we had a season low of defensive snaps in a half.
Baylor has the best red zone defense in the conference and one of the best in the country. I believe that OU's freshman TE Austin Stogner, surprised them a bit with his effectiveness inside the 20 for two TD's, both on nice catches. Braden Willis also had a receiving touchdown. Baylor will likely give some extra attention to the tight ends in the red zone. All three tight end TD receptions were under 5 yard completions.
Baylor's plays two running backs pretty equally. They have totaled about 1250 yards rushing. John Lovett starts and has a few more yards. JaMycal Hasty has more burst, but his strip fumble on their first possession of the 2nd half in game 1, was the key play of OU's comeback.
Baylor beat Texas and Kansas worse than OU did. They beat KState in Manhattan by three touchdowns.
OU best West Virginia soundly, Baylor barely won. OU killed Tech. Baylor beat them 33-30. Ok State, TCU and Iowa State were kind of a comparison wash. Obvious we won the head to head at their place, but it was a very strange game.
Sat, Aug 31
vs S.F. Austin W 56 - 17
Sat, Sep 7
vs UTSA W 63 - 14
Bye Week
Sat, Sep 21
@ Rice W 21 - 13
Sat, Sep 28
vs Iowa St. W 23 - 21
Sat, Oct 5
@ Kansas St. W 31 - 12
Sat, Oct 12
vs Texas Tech W 33 - 30
Sat, Oct 19
@ (25) Oklahoma St. W 45 - 27
Thu, Oct 31
vs West Virginia W 17 - 14
Sat, Nov 9
@ TCU W 29 - 23
Sat, Nov 16
vs (6) Oklahoma L 34 - 31
Sat, Nov 23
vs Texas W 24 - 10
Sat, Nov 30
@ Kansas W 61 - 6
In the conference, they were every bit OUr equal by almost any measure. We got some breaks to come back on them in Waco, where they lead 28-3 two thirds of the way through the 2nd quarter. I thought we were trying to feel our way around missing our biggest offensive threat, CeeDee Lamb. We kind of figured it out after halftime. We went run heavy.
Baylor's defense is really good. They will knock your head off and play a defense that tries to emphasize that. The give you room a lot in the secondary, then come make you pay for catching it. They also hold a runner up occasionally to come deal some punishment. It's clean, but painful. It is universally spoken in the XII this year, that Baylor plays tough, hard hitting defense. They were particularly effective at forcing Hurts turnovers. His streak of ball security issues started that night.
They might have the two best DL's in the conference, 99 and 93. One, Brevvion Roy is huge. The other, James Lynch, is just really really good. They are hard to block. But somehow in Waco, we figured out a way to put up 27 (three TD's two FG's) in the second half. And OUr D, which gave up 31 in the first half, got a shut out after intermission.
Denzel Mims, their best receiver might be the best receiver in the game. He is fast and strong. Great playmaker for three years, even when their team sucked two years ago. He was still the third best receiver in the conference at midseason. But then OSU's stud went down for the year, and CeeDee hasn't been as good since he came back from concussion protocol. His burst seems to be less impactful. OU needs him to look great again this Saturday.
Mostly they have a Steve Davis kind of a quarterback who is more athletic than he looks, and very effective. Charlie Brewer has been terrific all year, especially in the clutch at the end of games. He also threw a pick to Nik Bonitto at the end of game 1. But he got surprised by an early snap and didn't get a good read on the defense, and had moderate quick pressure. And Bonitto made an incredible play. Other than that play, Brewer has been money on end of game drives when it mattered. It's part of why Baylor has been so good in close games. Most Sooner fans know that he is the son and grandson of a Longhorn quarterback. But UT wasn't interested. He was born in Austin and graduated from Lake Travis, nearby.
Baylor hurt OU in the first half in Waco with a number of quarterback draw kinds of plays, with OL's downfield blocking on pass looking snaps. OU adjusted in the second half, until the last possession, and Baylor moved it pretty quickly, until Bonitto's pick. Before that, OU limited the Bears so much, that we had a season low of defensive snaps in a half.
Baylor has the best red zone defense in the conference and one of the best in the country. I believe that OU's freshman TE Austin Stogner, surprised them a bit with his effectiveness inside the 20 for two TD's, both on nice catches. Braden Willis also had a receiving touchdown. Baylor will likely give some extra attention to the tight ends in the red zone. All three tight end TD receptions were under 5 yard completions.
Baylor's plays two running backs pretty equally. They have totaled about 1250 yards rushing. John Lovett starts and has a few more yards. JaMycal Hasty has more burst, but his strip fumble on their first possession of the 2nd half in game 1, was the key play of OU's comeback.
Baylor beat Texas and Kansas worse than OU did. They beat KState in Manhattan by three touchdowns.
OU best West Virginia soundly, Baylor barely won. OU killed Tech. Baylor beat them 33-30. Ok State, TCU and Iowa State were kind of a comparison wash. Obvious we won the head to head at their place, but it was a very strange game.
Before we played Baylor the first time, I pointed out that they were a bit of a sham.
Not sure I have changed my mind.
They played one D1-AA team (SFA) and another who should still be D1-AA (UTSA).
They beat Rice by one score (8 Pts).
They beat Iowa State by 2 Pts.
They beat WVA by 3 Pts.
The officials blatantly missed a call that about 99% would have led to a Tceh win on OT.
The KSU comparison between BU and OU is the anomaly here, meaning OU had an "Off" day that day.
By late November, Texas was exposed for the "Back.... to mediocre" team they have been recently.
I think the B12 CCG will be as boring as the BIG and ACC CCGs.
The OU defensive adjustment at half in the first game should make this a comfortable win for OU.
Not sure I have changed my mind.
They played one D1-AA team (SFA) and another who should still be D1-AA (UTSA).
They beat Rice by one score (8 Pts).
They beat Iowa State by 2 Pts.
They beat WVA by 3 Pts.
The officials blatantly missed a call that about 99% would have led to a Tceh win on OT.
The KSU comparison between BU and OU is the anomaly here, meaning OU had an "Off" day that day.
By late November, Texas was exposed for the "Back.... to mediocre" team they have been recently.
I think the B12 CCG will be as boring as the BIG and ACC CCGs.
The OU defensive adjustment at half in the first game should make this a comfortable win for OU.
As long as OU takes care of the ball we should be fine. Turnovers led to that deficit in the first half. Put the hammer down on offense and keep the hammer down for the entire game.
Riley will call a lot of plays in the early part of drives that are designed to cause the Baylor players to become winded / tired.
Since Baylor doesn't have great defensive team depth this will work in OU favor.
Since Baylor doesn't have great defensive team depth this will work in OU favor.
@Plainosooner pretty much nailed it. These Bears bring the fight to you. They remind me of the 2014 Bears that smoked us at home. Difference is these Bears play like their hair is on fire because they got a chip on their shoulder, where 2014 Baylor was more of a manufactured "swagger".
Bottom line: we have to be able to run the ball to open up the pass. Defenses have figured Jalen out. Riley has been making some obvious adjustments but Jalen's accuracy creates limits. Defensively I think we're going to have to get aggressive and get some turnovers or sacks. Can't play contain and give Brewer and Mims all day. And Kenneth Murray has got to slow down till he settles into the game.
Bottom line: we have to be able to run the ball to open up the pass. Defenses have figured Jalen out. Riley has been making some obvious adjustments but Jalen's accuracy creates limits. Defensively I think we're going to have to get aggressive and get some turnovers or sacks. Can't play contain and give Brewer and Mims all day. And Kenneth Murray has got to slow down till he settles into the game.
All great stuff and thanks to everyone. Really all I was searching for by the "top secret" lead was report of key missing pieces on their side this week; maybe they had plenty of rest last week vs KU while we had a little tougher test at Stilly...
