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With all the talk of the Clemson D-line and both of the QBs, Baker & Watson. I do believe that Perine will be the focus of OU's game planning in the next two games. He hasn't carried the ball as much as lasy year, so he's a bit rested. I think we'll see a great deal of Perine the next two games.
 
I agree. And just when they think they have Perine contained, other good things happen including the unexpected Baker runs. Then it recycles. Perine starts running some more. I agree WNAS. OU will grind it out.
 
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With all the talk of the Clemson D-line and both of the QBs, Baker & Watson. I do believe that Perine will be the focus of OU's game planning in the next two games. He hasn't carried the ball as much as lasy year, so he's a bit rested. I think we'll see a great deal of Perine the next two games.

Hope So! Perine is a Fan Favorite and Game-Plan Favorite...Win/Win and sure to put Points on the Board and Smiles on OUr Faces! :D
 
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I agree. And just when they think they have Perine contained, other good things happen including the unexpected Baker runs. Then it recycles. Perine starts running some more. I agree WNAS. OU will grind it out.

We can only hope that the defense will hold up it's end of the bargain. They've no doubt improved but they still gave up a lot of yardage via the pass. If we are forced to 'keep up', it may neutralize Perine to some degree. But I sense a heavier dose of Perine is in the plans than we've watched all season.
 
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Clemson will have to load up to stop the run which leaves the passing game wide open. If they try to stop the pass it will leave the running game open. They have an impossible task before them.
 
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With all the talk of the Clemson D-line and both of the QBs, Baker & Watson. I do believe that Perine will be the focus of OU's game planning in the next two games. He hasn't carried the ball as much as lasy year, so he's a bit rested. I think we'll see a great deal of Perine the next two games.
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Clemson will have to load up to stop the run which leaves the passing game wide open. If they try to stop the pass it will leave the running game open. They have an impossible task before them.

Could say the same for Clemson..... or a lot of other teams.
Like Oklahoma, Clemson has a very good offense. I just see the real advantage being Clemson's defense. They won't stop Oklahoma like last year, that's for sure; but I'd be surprised to see Oklahoma break much over 30. I do see Clemson scoring more than that on Oklahoma. The biggest difference isn't that Oklahoma hasn't seen a QB as good as Watson (although true). The big difference is that Oklahoma hasn't seen a defense anywhere NEAR Clemson's defense. Your league has very, very good offenses, but the defenses are pretty poor. Very few are even in the top 50. Clemson has a top 10 defense.
Who knows? Gonna be a very good game. I'm stoked.
 
Funny thing about that. Would you say that they play pretty good defense in the SEC?

Against Arkansas, Alabama scored 27. Tennessee scored 24. LSU scored 14. Texas Tech scored 35 in Fayetteville. Why? Because Tech has a quarterback. Now he's a young guy. He makes some mistakes. He certainly doesn't have the surrounding cast that Bama has.

Arkansas scored 24 on Tech. They scored double that on Ole Miss and Mississippi State.

LSU has supposedly the best back in the country. But they scored 14 on Arkansas. That's 40% of what Tech scored.

Ole Miss lost to Memphis, because they dared to play a good non conference game on the road, something that nobody else in the conference did.

Look at Clemson's in conference opponents. they played three teams that were 3-9; one was 4-8. You don't get to bypass good teams from the other division in the XII. Clemson basically played two good team, both at home. The put a lickin' on Florida State and barely beat ND. Their toughest road game was against Louisville, who was 7-5. Do you really think that the Tigers played a tougher schedule than OU, who won at Tennessee, at Baylor and at OSU?

The good news is that all the conjecture doesn't matter. To me, the biggest plus for Clemson is Dabo's record in bowl games. There is a trick to getting a team ready for that one game. Since West Virginia embarrassed them four years ago, they beat LSU as an underdog, when those Tigers were considered really good, they beat Ohio State who was loaded again as an underdog and last year, they smoked OU.

Clemson will be a challenge. I expect a great game. And I expect an OU win. But then .... I would.
 
Funny thing about that. Would you say that they play pretty good defense in the SEC?

Against Arkansas, Alabama scored 27. Tennessee scored 24. LSU scored 14. Texas Tech scored 35 in Fayetteville. Why? Because Tech has a quarterback. Now he's a young guy. He makes some mistakes. He certainly doesn't have the surrounding cast that Bama has.

Arkansas scored 24 on Tech. They scored double that on Ole Miss and Mississippi State.

LSU has supposedly the best back in the country. But they scored 14 on Arkansas. That's 40% of what Tech scored.

Ole Miss lost to Memphis, because they dared to play a good non conference game on the road, something that nobody else in the conference did.

Look at Clemson's in conference opponents. they played three teams that were 3-9; one was 4-8. You don't get to bypass good teams from the other division in the XII. Clemson basically played two good team, both at home. The put a lickin' on Florida State and barely beat ND. Their toughest road game was against Louisville, who was 7-5. Do you really think that the Tigers played a tougher schedule than OU, who won at Tennessee, at Baylor and at OSU?

The good news is that all the conjecture doesn't matter. To me, the biggest plus for Clemson is Dabo's record in bowl games. There is a trick to getting a team ready for that one game. Since West Virginia embarrassed them four years ago, they beat LSU as an underdog, when those Tigers were considered really good, they beat Ohio State who was loaded again as an underdog and last year, they smoked OU.

Clemson will be a challenge. I expect a great game. And I expect an OU win. But then .... I would.

You make great points. QB play matters. That was my problem with a RB winning the Heisman. In today's game, excellent QB play, particularly a mobile guy in a spread package that offers him lots of options, is just far, FAR more important than ANY RB. 30 years ago, no question, RB was the most important position on the field. Today it's not even close. I don't care HOW good a RB is, he just doesn't compare to the QB.

One small correction: Above, you say Clemson has only played 2 teams. I think you forgot NC.
Clemson is the only team in the nation to have beaten 3 current top 10 teams. No one else's resume' compares to that, but you guy's resume probably comes closest. It's just a question how much those other guys were hurt by having to use their 2nd string QBs.
If Clemson wins out, they will be the only team in history to have gone 15-0 and beat FIVE top 10 teams along the way.
As far as the RECORD goes, that would make this the best college team in history.
Now, I think FlaSt 2 years ago was a better team, but their record won't match this one.
 
Can anyone name 1 good team UNC or fsu beat this year? Anyone? ACC was terrible. Clemson is stacked, but the conference is a joke
 
I like it when Perine and Mixon line up in the backfield together. That means either guy can flare out and get into one-on-one situations, sometimes against d-backs! Either guy can go into motion or block for a run by the other back! The defense still has to cover Shepard like a glove! Andrews is such a big guy that no CB can cover him and he's too skilled for a LB and most safeties can't even cover him - and with the extra bowl practices I expect big things out of our 6'-6" receiver/TE!
Then, just when they think they finally have us stopped. . . BOOM!!! Mayfield breaks out for a 24-yard run to the end zone!!!
Boomer Sooner!
 
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Can anyone name 1 good team UNC or fsu beat this year? Anyone? ACC was terrible. Clemson is stacked, but the conference is a joke
You mean other than Florida St and NC, right?
I could say the same thing about OhSt.

Really doesn't matter what the rest of the conference is, though.
Clemson has beaten 3 teams currently ranked in the top 10. 2 of those are ACC teams and the other is a partial member.
Clemson has beaten every (unranked) team they were supposed to beat for 4 years in a row, as well as a whole bunch of ranked teams. Alabama is the only other team in the nation that can make that claim.
Could care less how bad the unranked teams are.
Did OK beat all the unranked teams they played this year? Last year?
I think we know the answer to that, don't we?
 
FreeSC, since you keep bringing up OU playing against backup QBs didn't Clemson play against a backup QB at home against FSU? The ND QB was only making his 3rd start at Clemson and the Baylor QB was making his 2nd start against OU. If you want to question the OU wins against Baylor & OSU, do you have the same questions about the 2 biggest Clemson wins? Those games were at Clemson while the OU wins were on the road.
 
FreeSC, since you keep bringing up OU playing against backup QBs didn't Clemson play against a backup QB at home against FSU? The ND QB was only making his 3rd start at Clemson and the Baylor QB was making his 2nd start against OU. If you want to question the OU wins against Baylor & OSU, do you have the same questions about the 2 biggest Clemson wins? Those games were at Clemson while the OU wins were on the road.

FSUs QB designated the starter against Clemson not because the other QB was hurt; it was because he was thought to have the best skill set to give FSU the best chance to win. In fact, he started all the rest of their games if I'm not mistaken, and not because of injury to the other guy.

In the case of ND, their QB was "new", but a I think he also started the rest of the season, and not because of injury to anyone else. He is the best ND has.

And I don't keep bringing it up; I just mentioned it one time. Because a good team should ALWAYS beat an average team (although it doesn't always happen); so if you have a good team you look at what happened against other good teams.

Look, Oklahoma is a really good team. No doubt. This is going to be a really good game. I certainly don't see anyone blowing anyone else out like last year, but no one saw it coming last year either. I sure didn't! I was EXTREMELY concerned about you guys last year because Stout was our QB. In fact, the dropoff is so huge between him and Watson, I actually thought we would probably lose last year, but we know it didn't happen.
Just discussing differences based on the record, that's all. Wins against GOOD teams are what matter. Who cares what you did against scrubs.
 
First 6 Big XII Games - 14 carries/gm average
Baylor, TCU, OkSt - 23.7 carries/gm average

Lowest carries in a game, 10 in a loss to Texas.

Stats speak a lot of the story.
 
Who OU or Clemson beat, and in OU's case, was beaten by doesn't mean anything at this point, IMO. After the game is the best time for the victorious fans to beat their chest and tout the stats that resulted in their team winning. Right now, what does it matter? In a fortnight plus two we are going to see who wins and advances to the finals. Clemson deserves the #1 ranking, but it really doesn't look like there is much difference between any of the playoff teams. Actually, I like Oklahoma's chances to win a title more than any other time since the 2000 season. I just don't see any team better than the Sooners, but this is a very talented group of teams. Any school can win it all. If every team shows up, it's going to be very exciting.
 
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We cannot allow Clemson to use a "stun gun" on OU's Offense. Meaning we need momentum and good gaining plays out of the starting blocks. Texas used the stun gun and we never got on pace. I see our Offense having success and our Defense will be put to the test. I by no means a football expert but I have this gut feeling that Clemson is the team to beat. Bob has the game plan to beat Bama.....hurry up no huddle offense freezes Kirby Smart's defensive reads.
 
ND QB against Clemson was starting because of injury their QB went down against UVA. FSU starting QB was coming off an injury so they stayed with the backup. Also if we are talking about defense OU D gives up less yards per play than Clemson's. The reason we are ranked lower in total D is because we have had to defend 60 plus more plays in 1 less game. If you go by yards per play which to me is a more telling stat then OU would be tied for the 6th best D in the country ahead of Clemson.
 
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Who OU or Clemson beat, and in OU's case, was beaten by doesn't mean anything at this point, IMO. After the game is the best time for the victorious fans to beat their chest and tout the stats that resulted in their team winning. Right now, what does it matter? In a fortnight plus two we are going to see who wins and advances to the finals. Clemson deserves the #1 ranking, but it really doesn't look like there is much difference between any of the playoff teams. Actually, I like Oklahoma's chances to win a title more than any other time since the 2000 season. I just don't see any team better than the Sooners, but this is a very talented group of teams. Any school can win it all. If every team shows up, it's going to be very exciting.

Of the four teams & three games, greatness will occur. Whether it be play calling by the coaches or execution by the players, greatness will rise it's head. The greatness will unfold as the Champions are crowned. I want it to be the Sooners.
 
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ND QB against Clemson was starting because of injury their QB went down against UVA. FSU starting QB was coming off an injury so they stayed with the backup. Also if we are talking about defense OU D gives up less yards per play than Clemson's. The reason we are ranked lower in total D is because we have had to defend 60 plus more plays in 1 less game. If you go by yards per play which to me is a more telling stat then OU would be tied for the 6th best D in the country ahead of Clemson.

Speaking of more plays, which is also possessions, OU also leads in points per possession. :)
 
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Of the four teams & three games, greatness will occur. Whether it be play calling by the coaches or execution by the players, greatness will rise it's head. The greatness will unfold as the Champions are crowned. I want it to be the Sooners.

I think you're dead on. I could see any of the four winning the thing. Each team has some real strengths and each has a weakness or two. Which quarterback will be greatness? Who will be able to run the ball the best. Which running game excels the most?

I think most interesting is which defense will show up? Bama's defense is likely the best against the run. But will they be able to keep up with the pace that the winner of the OU - Clemson game will test them with? If Bama gets there at all.

I suspect the most telling two things that come to pass: 1. Who keeps their key players healthy? And 2. Who makes the most big plays? Defensive touchdowns? 40 yard plus offensive plays, especially for touchdowns. Who has those key converisions on third and hard to make? And maybe a 2A. Who seems less impacted by not playing for a month, and then being required to play at the highest level?

I am pleasantly surprised by those who think OU is going to win the next two. It may come down to which quarterback has the most lemonade plays. If it does, we have a pretty good chance.
 
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I sure didn't!.

Ummm... Many of us saw a loss last year going into the bowl game man.
The team was divided. The offense was 3 and out constantly during conference play. We were overrated at #24 and we knew it. The defense was visibly clashing with Mike Stoops on the sidelines.

I saw it coming, many of us did.
This year we don't
 
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If Clemson has a weakness in their defense, it might be depth in the front four. Now the guys they throw out there are great; but the two-deep talent falls off pretty quick. Clemson's DBs are big and fast, though. They will be a superior match physically to everyone except for 81 Andrews in the slot.

However, If we can wear those front dudes down, our running attack could have good success.
 
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