ok its simple. or how about straight-forward instead. oregon beats utah, auburn beats bama, lsu beats georgia and of course we beat baylor. but those results have to happen or we get left out.
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I think you are right; if all that happens OU is in. However, I think the committee moving Baylor up from 14 to 9 is noteworthy. If things hold form the last weekend of the regular season, OU will have a chance to beat a top 10 team for a second time and collect another conference championship. I think that moves them ahead of a one loss Alabama (easily), and makes it a lot closer with Utah if they win out...should be interesting as long as OU keeps winning.
OU wins out, the only issue would be if Georgia beats LSU.
Agreed; if that happens and the game is close the SEC gets two teams in.
I sure hope the players don't forget we have to beat ostate first. The way we are playing that won't be easy.
I think we end up ahead of Bama if we win out. We'll see.
You omitted though, Ohio State wins out. If they have a loss, they're still going. And so might their conference champ, especially if it Minnesota.
Don't think we'll jump Bama and don't see them losing to Allbarn. Bo Nix is struggling down the stretch and their offense was below average anyway.
Bama played one good opponent and lost. They are very beatable...and now without Tua...they are no better than Baylor. We jump them. Getting a feeling this is between Georgia and Utah for that 4th spot. Saban’s stumble could be start of something. If they were any good, they should have beat LSU’s defense soundly. They did not do that. Getting phat on teams like W. Carolina do nothing and mean nothing.
I really can't see us jumping Bama if they beat Auburn. Their schedule sucks but we all know how a lot of people feel about them. Clemson's schedule is equally as bad
Alabama was beaten by the #1 or #2 team in the country depending upon how you want to look at it, but OU lost to Kansas State!!! I agree with you as long as Bama beats Auburn.
We have more quality wins, but not sure that is going to matter. Lets be honest....do we think OU is better than Alabama? I don't know that I can say that
Chances are pretty good that we will get Georgia, IMO. Obviously we have to earn the right to represent the B12.
The problem is that Alabama is bring credited way to much for a quality loss. They ( CFP Committee) are totally ignoring quality wins against there very own perceived Top 25 listings snd if Bama beats Auburn they would have only one win while OU would be 3-0 against the committees top 25.
My issue with this is that a team should have to earn its way in ( Think most deserving not the eye test best) and that starts with being a conference champion. Quality wins would be 2nd on my list and then maybe you could use quality losses as a last tie breaker But to use it as a first breaker which the committee seems to be doing is stupid.
“Best” is very subjective when you have other data to use for most “deserving”. Do I think OU is better than Bama ? Not really but at the same time I am not convinced Bama is better than OU.
In the end none of this matters because we may lose to OSU this weekend or even Baylor but if Utah or Baylor finish 12-1 as a conf champ Bama will not have earned its place in the playoffs over either.
Yeah we beat texass when they were "back"
That has to count for something.
That has to count for something.
true bomber but they have not beaten even one currently ranked team.
Do they even play ranked teams more than once every season ?
I think it might all depend on how they look against Auburn.
Now what I really hope is that OU is not so focused on everyone else that we forget to come out ready to play. We have been known to do that in the past
Why is it that people act like this loss qualifies Bama when the rest of it’s schedule is less than impressive. No quality wins and even if the beat Auburn it is at best a fringe top 20 team with 4 losses. This reminds me of 2011 when Bama and the media cried to anyone who would listen that they had the best loss and should go over Pokes. The pollsters listened and OSU got screwed even though they had the better SOS.
Hopefully KSU doesn’t beat ISU to knock them out of the top 25 as that could hurt OUs chances. If we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs I would hope we get matched up against LSU because I think OU matches up with them the best due to both having very good offenses and at times leaky defenses.
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OU will be in the CFP if, (1) We beat OSU and Baylor (both ranked), (2) LSU beats Georgia & (3) Oregon beats Utah. We will jump Bama even if they beat Auburn. Conference Champions earns a data point. And by the way, I think we can beat Bama is a bowl game.
Yep, original poster had a brain fart - both LSU and UGA stay in the top 4 if UGA wins. We only need the Ducks to beat Utah. If we play well against both oSu and BU we'll go over Bama, and maybe even Utah if they barely beat the Ducks.
Bama w/o a Conference Title and w/o Tua will probably cost them though. And while this talk is all good and stuff, we're two games too early. OU still has to handle OSU & then Baylor again.
The talking heads are now pimping Utah because I believe they have an agenda wanting a PAC 12 team in for a change vs a Big 12. Cannot really blame them as we have laid an egg too many times when they showed us some love in the past.
Good point. OU's CFP track record may stick in the minds of the selection people, perhaps even if OU beats Baylor. Going to need some help from other teams, that's for sure.
Utah has played 1 top 25 team & they lost. Their resume sucks. Go Ducks!
Yet the past should have no bearing on the NOW. This is another thing that is wrong with this committee and when you hear them say “ we looked at the past” it just makes them look even more foolish. Teams are suppose to be evaluated on the current year and if it comes down to Utah and OU the numbers say OU is more deserving by virtue of quality wins against the committees own Top 25.
However I highly suspect that Utah will get the nod as we will hear the committee use the term “ Game Control” which translates to “ Eye Test” by them. Again when you hear the the CFP people say “ We evaluate everything” its just all BS.
CFB committee is 100% BS....Utah has not even played a top 20 opponent. Complete crap.
I watched a little bit of the Utah Colorado game last night. I can't remember who the announcers were but they said that Utah deserves to get in over OU, becasue OU doesn't have a defense.
This is the opinion of many ignorant folks outside of the B12. We keep hearing people refer to the high scoring games as "This is a B12 game here" and yet those idiots don't even realize that overall the scoring is down in the conference. At one point the average score of B12 games including the OOC games were 34-23 which is really more than respectable and I will have to go and refigure them now that the regular season is over. The average score of the SEC was like 31-23 at that time so they really don' t do their homework when they talk out of there asses.
The only confence that remotely can brag about defense is the B10 but then again they have an awful lot of really bad offenses. Yet you never hear them talk about how bad those offenses are on average.
EDIT: Just done the B12 overall season and the average score this year for all games in the season was 32-23 rounded up/down. The average pts scored in B12 games by the winning team was only 29. Will have to break down each game for a better average score in conference. SEC: The average score of games for that conference this season overall was 30-23. Guess the idiots that are talking don't do very good research.
Please let me know if my math is incorrect.
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Agree. Decisions should be based on the current season only.
