OT...FYI, Just say 'No' to Blue Bell...

[Senior Sooner]

Guys, I'm not an Alarmist, but for the short term, this info' MUST be considered. It has been 'whispered' in the news for a while, but the Shut-Down gives credibility.

Sadly, it's possible that the findings of Listeria in their products will bankrupt Blue Bell...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/04/blue-bell-suspends-operations-at-oklahoma-plant/

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Well hell, that's unfortunate.

That plant is just about 4 miles up the highway from my abode, and will adversely affect around four or five peeps I know that worked there.

(trite saying alert!..."Tomorrow is promised to no one.")

 

[Section22Sooner]

A side note that I want to share.... The older we get, the less tolerant we are to dairy products, especially milk. When I quit milk (and started using almond milk) on my cereal, I started feeling MUCH better within a couple of days. I cut back on cheeses too. That great advice was given to me by a nurse when I went into the hospital last month. All those doctor visits were a waste of time. I feel great once again. I love Blue Bell products as much as the next guy, but feeling better every day is worth not enjoying any ice cream. That said, I hope BB will rebound from this.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Oh man!

Cheese fries...completely out of the question?

 

[Section22Sooner]

White cheese isn't all that bad. But the more processed yellow cheeses... no dice. Chili & onions are fine. I can't live without those.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

You're quite right there 22.

I've had to adjust my diet, (kicking and screaming all the way of course) to compensate for the aging process.

Like, no more giant pizza platters of nachos smothered in three kinds of yellow cheeses with copious amounts of sliced jalapenos, sour cream and picante sauce. (damn, I miss that one)

I'm trying to 'behave' if you will, but it has been a challenge for sure.

 

[soonerfastnloud]

Blue Bell is probably using OLD LONGHORN steers, being that it's a TEXASS company.

 

[iasooner1]

I haven't seen Blue Bell in these parts for quite some time; if I'm anywhere south of KC & eating Ice cream, it's gonna be BRAUM'S all day long...

 

[soonerfastnloud]

Yes, now that is the way to go a company from our neck of the woods.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by soonerfastnloud:
Blue Bell is probably using OLD LONGHORN steers, being that it's a TEXASS company.

ahemmm... you might want to edit this post... as it was the Tulsa plant that was shut down. The plants in Texas are not having issues. At least yet anyway. Having said this, HEB pulled all of the Blue Bell product from their shelves today. I think it's an over re-action by HEB as the faulty product(s) have been identified. We have a carton of Homemade Vanilla we bought two days ago from our local HEB. There's nothing wrong with it. Anyway, this is not good for Blue Bell. A company who has served up ice cream for many generations.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Well, I don't generally buy BB products.
Pretty locked into Braums around these parts. (they never disappoint)

However, got to think that with the market share they command, they're 'too big to fail'.

Of course I could be wrong as that's certainly not my expertise...just spit balling really.

Come on...I didn't enjoy Peter Pan peanut butter for over a year for the same damn reason.

They came back stronger than ever, just by their brand name alone.

This shouldn't be that difficult for Bluebell to do the same. IMO

This post was edited on 4/4 11:47 PM by Soonersincefitty

 

[Section22Sooner]

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

ahemmm... you might want to edit this post... as it was the Tulsa plant that was shut down. The plants in Texas are not having issues. At least yet anyway.

ahemmm...

Three of these strains, which are highly similar, have also been found in products manufactured at the Blue Bell Creameries production facility in Brenham, Texas. Illness onset dates range from January 2014 to January 2015.

FDA was notified that these three strains and four other rare strains of Listeria monocytogenes were found in samples of Blue Bell Creameries single serving Chocolate Chip Country Cookie Sandwich and the Great Divide Bar ice cream products collected by the South Carolina Department of Health & Environmental Control during routine product sampling at a South Carolina distribution center, on February 12, 2015. These products are manufactured at Blue Bell Creameries' Brenham facility.



The Texas Department of State Health Services, subsequently, collected product samples from the Blue Bell Creameries Brenham facility. These samples yielded Listeria monocytogenes from the same products tested by South Carolina and a third single-serving ice cream product, Scoops, which is also made on the same production line.



http://www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/Outbreaks/ucm438104.htm

 

[roygbell]

I find all of this interesting. My diet is one not recommended by the AMA. First, I consume lots of dairy products, including cheese. That doesn't include the so-called processed cheese. I only consume real cheese. I like aged sharp cheddar and eat several ounces a day and have been doing it my entire life. I eat three real eggs every morning as part of an omelet that included a couple of ounces of sausage, onions and jalapenos. I consume quite a bit of mild as I have all of my life. I also eat a good 2 to 3 pounds of marbles strip steak a week. Don't eat junk food ... you won't find chips, cookies or other junk snack foods in my house. The majority of the carbs I get come from fruit, nuts thinks like apples, blackberries, blueberries, oranges, grapefruit, bananas etc. I don't eat fake food, only the real thing that God intended for us to eat. Don't take vitamins and/or mineral supplements as I see it as a waste of money and time. I don't consume pasta and/or any other high simple carbohydrate foods. My diet is high in protein and fat and low in carbs.

My weight is at my Senior year of high school football playing weight. I stay active and walk 25 to 30 blocks 3 or 4 times a week. I just had my yearly physical and passed with flying colors. Lots of good cholesterol, not much of the bad stuff. Everything else normal and easily passed a stress test.

This is my diet and I am not recommending it to anyone else. I am amused at people on a sports message board suggesting someone eat this or that.

While we are all the same animal, we aren't identical. We have the same type systems, but individually our digestive systems vary considerably from person to person. Groups like the AMA like to make like we are all the same and we aren't. I used to deal with acid reflux and spent many years with Drs trying to figure out how to combat it. Not one of my Drs could help me. I figured out my problem on my own by experimenting. When I went back to my roots of high protein/fat and low in simple carbs I solved my own problem. My personal Dr at the time told me I was wrong. I found another GP who just smiled and said whatever works for you.

I know this is off the topic, but my advice on diet is figure out what works best for you and then stick to it. Don't just trust someone pushing a diet or anyone telling you to do this or that, especially if they don't know your history.

On topic, my guess is that Blue Bell will quickly figure out what happened and fix it. Personally I won't hold this against Blue Bell as anyone in the food business is susceptible to this kind of thing. It just happens no matter how hard we try ... it is just very hard to be perfect all the time.

Please excuse this rant.

 

[Senior Sooner]

Good Read, rgb...If it ain't broke...You know the drill...

 

[Section22Sooner]

Originally posted by roygbell:

I am amused at people on a sports message board suggesting someone eat this or that.

First of all, "OT" means "off topic". Probably means that it isn't sports related. Ya know?

Secondly, almost your entire post was about what you do (and do not) eat. That's amusing.





This post was edited on 4/5 10:50 AM by Section22Sooner

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by Section22Sooner:

Originally posted by roygbell:

I am amused at people on a sports message board suggesting someone eat this or that.

First of all, "OT" means "off topic". Probably means that it isn't sports related. Ya know?

Secondly, almost your entire post was about what you do (and do not) eat. That's amusing.





This post was edited on 4/5 10:50 AM by Section22Sooner

Interesting reply.... this is your first post in this thread...

"When I quit milk (and started using almond milk) on my cereal, I started feeling MUCH better within a couple of days. I cut back on cheeses too. That great advice was given to me by a nurse when I went into the hospital last month. All those doctor visits were a waste of time. I feel great once again. I love Blue Bell products as much as the next guy, but feeling better every day is worth not enjoying any ice cream."

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by Section22Sooner:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

ahemmm... you might want to edit this post... as it was the Tulsa plant that was shut down. The plants in Texas are not having issues. At least yet anyway.

ahemmm...

Three of these strains, which are highly similar, have also been found in products manufactured at the Blue Bell Creameries production facility in Brenham, Texas. Illness onset dates range from January 2014 to January 2015.

FDA was notified that these three strains and four other rare strains of Listeria monocytogenes were found in samples of Blue Bell Creameries single serving Chocolate Chip Country Cookie Sandwich and the Great Divide Bar ice cream products collected by the South Carolina Department of Health & Environmental Control during routine product sampling at a South Carolina distribution center, on February 12, 2015. These products are manufactured at Blue Bell Creameries' Brenham facility.


The Texas Department of State Health Services, subsequently, collected product samples from the Blue Bell Creameries Brenham facility. These samples yielded Listeria monocytogenes from the same products tested by South Carolina and a third single-serving ice cream product, Scoops, which is also made on the same production line.

from your artlicle posted...Additionally, on April 3, 2015, the CDC recommended that retailers and institutions do not sell or serve any Blue Bell brand products made at the Oklahoma production facility.

But back to my point, HEB has pulled ALL products from their shelves. Not just the products that have been identified and/or products made in Oklahoma, but ALL products. I do believe this is a complete over reach. Perhaps everything stocked at an HEB in Texas are products made at the Oklahoma plant, but I doubt it. HEB is a Texas retailer that prides itself on buying and selling Texas produced foods. They are the only retailer that has removed BB from their shelves. I'm sure some legaleze type suggested this to occur. Most down here I'm talking to agree that it's a major reach and discussions turned to a negation price ploy from HEB to put Blue Bell back on their shelves once this subsides. Which it eventually will. BB will take a hit but I seriously doubt that it put them under. I suspect that HEB will be selling their product soon again, but I doubt the consumer will see the reduced cost. I like to shop at HEB, but I don't like how they are handling this situation at all. It's definitely changed how I view or look upon them as a grocery retailer going forward.

 

[Section22Sooner]

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

Interesting reply.... this is your first post in this thread...

"When I quit milk (and started using almond milk) on my cereal, I started feeling MUCH better within a couple of days. I cut back on cheeses too. That great advice was given to me by a nurse when I went into the hospital last month. All those doctor visits were a waste of time. I feel great once again. I love Blue Bell products as much as the next guy, but feeling better every day is worth not enjoying any ice cream."




I discussed my diet. He discussed his diet. That was my point. So what is your point? Or rather, what is your motive? No need to answer. I already know.

This post was edited on 4/6 4:39 AM by Section22Sooner

 

[Section22Sooner]

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

From your artlicle posted...Additionally, on April 3, 2015, the CDC recommended that retailers and institutions do not sell or serve any Blue Bell brand products made at the Oklahoma production facility.

But back to my point, HEB has pulled ALL products from their shelves. Not just the products that have been identified and/or products made in Oklahoma, but ALL products. I do believe this is a complete over reach. Perhaps everything stocked at an HEB in Texas are products made at the Oklahoma plant, but I doubt it. HEB is a Texas retailer that prides itself on buying and selling Texas produced foods. They are the only retailer that has removed BB from their shelves. I'm sure some legaleze type suggested this to occur. Most down here I'm talking to agree that it's a major reach and discussions turned to a negation price ploy from HEB to put Blue Bell back on their shelves once this subsides. Which it eventually will. BB will take a hit but I seriously doubt that it put them under. I suspect that HEB will be selling their product soon again, but I doubt the consumer will see the reduced cost. I like to shop at HEB, but I don't like how they are handling this situation at all. It's definitely changed how I view or look upon them as a grocery retailer going forward.

But back to your first response...



Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

ahemmm... you might want to edit this post... as it was the Tulsa plant that was shut down. The plants in Texas are not having issues. At least yet anyway.





I'll help you to post a proper reply. "I didn't know that. Sorry soonerfastnloud. It looks like I better go back and edit my own post."

 

[roygbell]

Originally posted by Section22Sooner:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

From your artlicle posted...Additionally, on April 3, 2015, the CDC recommended that retailers and institutions do not sell or serve any Blue Bell brand products made at the Oklahoma production facility.

But back to my point, HEB has pulled ALL products from their shelves. Not just the products that have been identified and/or products made in Oklahoma, but ALL products. I do believe this is a complete over reach. Perhaps everything stocked at an HEB in Texas are products made at the Oklahoma plant, but I doubt it. HEB is a Texas retailer that prides itself on buying and selling Texas produced foods. They are the only retailer that has removed BB from their shelves. I'm sure some legaleze type suggested this to occur. Most down here I'm talking to agree that it's a major reach and discussions turned to a negation price ploy from HEB to put Blue Bell back on their shelves once this subsides. Which it eventually will. BB will take a hit but I seriously doubt that it put them under. I suspect that HEB will be selling their product soon again, but I doubt the consumer will see the reduced cost. I like to shop at HEB, but I don't like how they are handling this situation at all. It's definitely changed how I view or look upon them as a grocery retailer going forward.

But back to your first response...



Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

ahemmm... you might want to edit this post... as it was the Tulsa plant that was shut down. The plants in Texas are not having issues. At least yet anyway.





I'll help you to post a proper reply. "I didn't know that. Sorry soonerfastnloud. It looks like I better go back and edit my own post."

22, just for the record I wasn't trying to be critical of your post and I should have said that at the beginning of my rant. My intended point with what I wrote about what is in my normal diet was to show that my diet is almost directly opposite of what the AMA and the AHA associations suggest. I consume lots of red meats and dairy products along with lots of eggs. My digestive system handles it perfectly. Others shouldn't follow my lead.

I don't have heart problems in my families history. I come from a long line of red meat and high dairy product eaters. We are all consumers of lots of good protein and lower carbs. My thoughts are that in general most people need more protein and way less carbs in their diets. But that is just my opinion.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Originally posted by Section22Sooner:

Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

From your artlicle posted...Additionally, on April 3, 2015, the CDC recommended that retailers and institutions do not sell or serve any Blue Bell brand products made at the Oklahoma production facility.

But back to my point, HEB has pulled ALL products from their shelves. Not just the products that have been identified and/or products made in Oklahoma, but ALL products. I do believe this is a complete over reach. Perhaps everything stocked at an HEB in Texas are products made at the Oklahoma plant, but I doubt it. HEB is a Texas retailer that prides itself on buying and selling Texas produced foods. They are the only retailer that has removed BB from their shelves. I'm sure some legaleze type suggested this to occur. Most down here I'm talking to agree that it's a major reach and discussions turned to a negation price ploy from HEB to put Blue Bell back on their shelves once this subsides. Which it eventually will. BB will take a hit but I seriously doubt that it put them under. I suspect that HEB will be selling their product soon again, but I doubt the consumer will see the reduced cost. I like to shop at HEB, but I don't like how they are handling this situation at all. It's definitely changed how I view or look upon them as a grocery retailer going forward.

But back to your first response...



Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:

ahemmm... you might want to edit this post... as it was the Tulsa plant that was shut down. The plants in Texas are not having issues. At least yet anyway.





I'll help you to post a proper reply. "I didn't know that. Sorry soonerfastnloud. It looks like I better go back and edit my own post."

22... you wish that you could post my posts for me, you can't. Won't. and never will. Simply put, the only plant that has been closed is the Oklahoma plant. The article you posted even shows this. My only motive was to show soonerfastnloud his distaste for everything Texas is senseless and in this case has come back to bite him in his butt. Then you jump into the boat with him and begin to row upstream as well. I'm not going to to post a rhetorical question of what's your motive. As I already know. Hope you have a Blue Bell Ice Cream day. I really do.

 

[Deweygolfer]

I don't care for Blue Bell anyway, too damn hard coming out of the Carton. I'm a Braum's, Dreyer's or Breyers fan myself.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

I like them all!

I'd place Braum's and Blue Bell as a 1-2, or a 2-1 but no way does BlueBell rank #4 in my bowl!