I admit I'm not completely sure how this is going to effect internet users here in America. Without getting political, can anyone enlighten me on what ramifications this is going to have for all of us?
net neutrality
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A lot of the net neutrality discussion arose from Netflix and Internet Service Providers (ISPs).
Many ISPs recently had/have begun throttling certain content being served to their customers. Some other specifics are YouTube content. Have you ever been on an internet connection that seems fast and capable of streaming video easily, but then you went to YouTube and you could barely watch anything at low resolution? Netflix too.
ISPs had begun reducing the streaming priorities of these sites and this content to their customers.
Net neutrality prevents ISPs from prioritizing your content (speed) as long as the content is legal.
Many ISPs recently had/have begun throttling certain content being served to their customers. Some other specifics are YouTube content. Have you ever been on an internet connection that seems fast and capable of streaming video easily, but then you went to YouTube and you could barely watch anything at low resolution? Netflix too.
ISPs had begun reducing the streaming priorities of these sites and this content to their customers.
Net neutrality prevents ISPs from prioritizing your content (speed) as long as the content is legal.
bw - Thanks for asking. I was wondering, too.
JCX - Thanks for the reply. Would the ISP's reduce the streaming priorities in hopes of you becoming a subscriber of their own similar sites?
JCX - Thanks for the reply. Would the ISP's reduce the streaming priorities in hopes of you becoming a subscriber of their own similar sites?
Perhaps J's explanation was the intent, but the FCC has just classified the Interwebs as a now new Public Utility, so it is subject to the same regulating as Telcoms, e.g. Title II of the 1934 Communications Act.
Their argument is to stop the broadband charges from allowing more Bit access and/or restricting ISPs.
The issue here is the evolution of this new classification and the box of worms it just opened going forward for regulation.
If the Interwebs are now a Public Utility, then why are cable providers getting a free pass or will they get future free passes?
The courts have ruled against this in 2010, so the courts will have to rule again.
The end game is the tax revenues of Billions just like the Telcoms imho.
This post was edited on 2/26 3:36 PM by JMISASANO
Their argument is to stop the broadband charges from allowing more Bit access and/or restricting ISPs.
The issue here is the evolution of this new classification and the box of worms it just opened going forward for regulation.
If the Interwebs are now a Public Utility, then why are cable providers getting a free pass or will they get future free passes?
The courts have ruled against this in 2010, so the courts will have to rule again.
The end game is the tax revenues of Billions just like the Telcoms imho.
This post was edited on 2/26 3:36 PM by JMISASANO
Humble,
The ISPs were complaining that companies like Google (YouTube) and Netflix were accounting for more than 50% of all internet data. So those companies were using the pipelines the most yet they were not paying for their increased use.
The ISPs figured that they were the ones doing all of the work and therefore they deserved some of the profits.
So they planned to throttle video streaming in hopes of offering new streaming packages (more money) to kill those throttles.
Google makes money by YouTube ads, so if the ISPs throttle, they are essentially killing viewership and therefore revenue.
Netflix the same. How many subscribers would cancel because they can't stream at a watchable rate - and they wouldn't be willing to pay for upgraded service.
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The ISPs were complaining that companies like Google (YouTube) and Netflix were accounting for more than 50% of all internet data. So those companies were using the pipelines the most yet they were not paying for their increased use.
The ISPs figured that they were the ones doing all of the work and therefore they deserved some of the profits.
So they planned to throttle video streaming in hopes of offering new streaming packages (more money) to kill those throttles.
Google makes money by YouTube ads, so if the ISPs throttle, they are essentially killing viewership and therefore revenue.
Netflix the same. How many subscribers would cancel because they can't stream at a watchable rate - and they wouldn't be willing to pay for upgraded service.
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Government knows best.
I suggest reading the 1910 English version of Marx and Engles "Communist Manifesto".
I suggest reading the 1910 English version of Marx and Engles "Communist Manifesto".
1. Much higher costs to consumers
2. Much less quality service
3. Much more restricted access to start and maintain a website
Government is like a seagull that really never flies away. It flies in, craps all over everything, and instead of flying off, they just keep circling and crapping.
2. Much less quality service
3. Much more restricted access to start and maintain a website
Government is like a seagull that really never flies away. It flies in, craps all over everything, and instead of flying off, they just keep circling and crapping.
So when do we have turn in our equipment at the threat of paying for something that has always been free? (except for the electrical utility charges)
What this is really about is partisan politics. Those who give donations to the party in office get preferential classification.
Yahoo should be in great shape.
Yahoo should be in great shape.
A lot of it "sounds" pretty good until you look under the covers--they are letting the wolf in!
The first way it will most likely affect everyone is allowing all those hidden taxes you get on your phone bill to appear on your internet statement--expect to pay 11% more.Internet services will now fall under government regulation, their ability to do whatever they want--expect this to open the door for "Big Bother" to watch, like the IRS, your political views, and tagging internet NAMES to paid service subscriptions.With the government control--why would any of the services continue the rapid pace of innovation we've seen that last 15 years? Expect to see slowing of speeds ahead, and special government only fast lanes. you may get 100MB, but the switching centers will become clogged.
Simply put, they loaded up on the public's desire to not have services like Netflix pay their own way. They use 30% or something like that of the internet bandwidth-
The first way it will most likely affect everyone is allowing all those hidden taxes you get on your phone bill to appear on your internet statement--expect to pay 11% more.Internet services will now fall under government regulation, their ability to do whatever they want--expect this to open the door for "Big Bother" to watch, like the IRS, your political views, and tagging internet NAMES to paid service subscriptions.With the government control--why would any of the services continue the rapid pace of innovation we've seen that last 15 years? Expect to see slowing of speeds ahead, and special government only fast lanes. you may get 100MB, but the switching centers will become clogged.
Simply put, they loaded up on the public's desire to not have services like Netflix pay their own way. They use 30% or something like that of the internet bandwidth-
Basically, what we have here is the same Govt that struggled mightily and way overpaid to have a website built is now in charge of the internet. Yeah right. We have us another win/win for the people.
"The Master Switch" is a solid read on the love/hate relationship between business and government (and in some cases religion) throughout the emergence of radio and film and phones and television and ultimately the net. Don't read it if you're looking to lock in a "business bad government good" or "business good government bad" view of the world, though.
I'm not so sure, Plaino. Comcast CEO is big contributor to you know who. Comcast attempt to take over Time Warner Cable has been in limbo for over one year now. Smart money says Comcast will get FCC and Justice Department approval but with hoops to high to jump through. Comcast CEO is regular player at the golf course with you know who.
nail, have you, Chairman Pacheco, SiL, dfwsooner, coupe, and I fell from grace with hierarchy? The oil fields are playing out in South Texas. Many layoffs. I'm back, but no OOB.
Did the evil Comanches find SiL? Woman Called Wesley just signed on with Government Motors for regional sales manager in Fargo, ND. We're proud of the little chick.
nail, have you, Chairman Pacheco, SiL, dfwsooner, coupe, and I fell from grace with hierarchy? The oil fields are playing out in South Texas. Many layoffs. I'm back, but no OOB.
Did the evil Comanches find SiL? Woman Called Wesley just signed on with Government Motors for regional sales manager in Fargo, ND. We're proud of the little chick.
The phrase net neutrality has about as much credibility as the affordable care act. I used to be able to afford my health care just before it became affordable.
This notion of neutrality is a misnomer of major proportions.
This notion of neutrality is a misnomer of major proportions.
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