NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!!!!
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Boomer Sooner!!! Congrats ladies!!!
Soonersincefitty
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Sweet, doing a happy dance...if only in my mind!
Hey Ladies..... cue the Beastie Boys!
Great win tonight. Outstanding job by Parker, she deserves the Most "Outstanding" Player of the tourney! Damn, it's good to be a Sooner!
Great win tonight. Outstanding job by Parker, she deserves the Most "Outstanding" Player of the tourney! Damn, it's good to be a Sooner!
Congratulations Sooners! Great team, great coach and great series.
If anyone choked in this game, it was Auburn when they loaded the bases with nobody out and didn't score. I did feel sorry for the girl who made the last Auburn out. She battled gamely by fouling off a ton of pitches and was absolutely devastated when she grounded out to second base.
That said, I was unimpressed with the the snotty attitude of some of the Auburn players after the second game, especially their coach who came off as particularly douchey.
That said, I was unimpressed with the the snotty attitude of some of the Auburn players after the second game, especially their coach who came off as particularly douchey.
I was unimpressed with them after game 1, when they talked crap after losing that game. Paige pitched awesome the whole tournament. Congratulations to all of those great ladies.
IT'S A GREAT DAY TO BE A SOONER!
And I was home for the whole game enjoying the 5K's by Paige and the mostly fine Defense by these extremely young ladies. What if we get a repeat or three-peat... Dynasty !
I was disappointed we were not awarded 2nd base in the first inning when their 1st base gal tackled our hitter...
I was very glad our 3rd base gal could stand up after being slid into by their runner I think top of the 2nd. The rough play mostly ended after that it seemed.
I was disappointed we were not awarded 2nd base in the first inning when their 1st base gal tackled our hitter...
I was very glad our 3rd base gal could stand up after being slid into by their runner I think top of the 2nd. The rough play mostly ended after that it seemed.
That is on OU, not the umpire. I would say it was on the 1st base coach, but, with the ball getting away, I'm not sure where her attention was. She may not have seen the umpire.
If you watch the replay, notice the umpire sticking out her (his?) arm with the fist clinched. As long as the arm is extended, that means the runner is protected from being put out. If the runner goes back to 1st base, she is protected. If the runner tries to advance to 2nd base, she is protected. If/When she gets to 2nd base, if the arm is still out she is protected to 3rd base. If the umpire drops their arm, the runner is no longer protected. If Missy or the runner, either one saw the extended arm, they should immediately go to 2nd (runner) or tell the runner to go to 2nd base (Missy).
Here is the part that has you disappointed. If you do not make a move toward the next base, you are not automatically given the base. The extended arm and knowing you are protected from put out is the key.
This is a rule starting at the lowest levels of softball (4-5 year-olds).
I kept hearing the announcer say "she (umpire) has her arm out" but never heard your explanation last night. Thanks for the clarification. Glad it was not significant to the outcome.
Guess it's time to burn some cars and break into liquor stores !
Or Vicey Versy...Break into some cars and Axe/Burn some Liquor Stores...Let's have a Moment of Silence for Ms. Carrie Nation...
I was thinking about doing a variation of the same response, Senior (sans Carrie Nation)...
You beat me to it !
You beat me to it !
Soonersincefitty
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Is that the lady that said..."Lips that touch liquor shall not touch mine".
Then I saw her picture and thought, fair enough.
At 6 Ft./180#, she could have played for The Sooners...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/1900/peopleevents/pande4.html
Carosone, the player who hit the grand slam in the second game, was the person who was somewhat less than generous with her comments towards OU in the post-game interview. She also happened to be the second baseman who made the error and compounded it with the smart-alec move to fake a throw to first in order to get Caleigh to commit to going home. Losing her grip allowed Caleigh to score the first run and Knighten to get to second. Romero advanced her to third with a ground ball. Aviu singled her home with a ground ball behind second. Hence, Carosone's two errors on one play provided both OU runs.
If you will notice, all of the activity to get those two runs was accomplished by freshmen. Four freshmen and a sophomore pitcher won.
Most teams were dependent on their seniors for leadership, and their statistical leaders were seniors. They are now gone. Our freshmen and sophomores should be around a while.
If you will notice, all of the activity to get those two runs was accomplished by freshmen. Four freshmen and a sophomore pitcher won.
Most teams were dependent on their seniors for leadership, and their statistical leaders were seniors. They are now gone. Our freshmen and sophomores should be around a while.
One of the most enjoyable displays of Karma that I've ever seen.
Here's a one-finger salute to All-Barn and the SEC! SEC! SEC!
Plaino,
If its not too much trouble, please elaborate on the box score for OUr entire roster for game three. That first inning was awesome in the bottom half especially. Other than Paige, that short black gal was clutch in the first at bat for game 3 (and did well throughout if memory serves). Perhaps co-Mvp ? I suppose "co-Mvp" could be given to the whole team effort...
If its not too much trouble, please elaborate on the box score for OUr entire roster for game three. That first inning was awesome in the bottom half especially. Other than Paige, that short black gal was clutch in the first at bat for game 3 (and did well throughout if memory serves). Perhaps co-Mvp ? I suppose "co-Mvp" could be given to the whole team effort...
Soonersincefitty
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Delayed but for sure, back in her day, she had the weight for a nifty fullback.
I'm not certain what you're asking. Here's the box score page from the official site, which sshould include the play by play also.
http://www.soonersports.com//ViewContent.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31000&CONTENT_ID=1861962
We hit some balls decently, but at them. I thought that we made a ton of very solid plays defensively, and that was the difference in the game. And it showed that we play better defense behind Paige for a lot of reasons. Mostly the players have confidence that she'll keep the batters from ripping their heads off, and she will keep a pace in the game by not walking a bunch of people.
That is the opposite of Stevens. In her defense, it's pretty hard to sit out any game action for four weeks, and the pitch game two of the finals. But what she did is what she did much of the season, and it's why she didn't pitch more earlier. I believe the workload two years ago had a negative impact on her, and really hoping that doesn't happen with Paige.
I guess I was very impressed with Aviu & was thinking she had some key ab's, along with the crucial rbi up the middle. All the girls represented themselves very well. Thanks for the link
Avui's RBI wasn't up the middle. It was almost a carbon copy of game two. It was a bouncing grounder to short without a lot of pace. The SS, laid back on it and Fale lunged for first, beating the throw and stumbled on the bag and a runner at third scored. I think maybe in game two, the bases were loaded, and SS waited a little to avoid having to deal with the runner or maybe second and third. But it was runner at third and two outs in game three and she beat it with improved mobility and pure hustle. Turned out to be the winner.
I've watched the game now three times. Still get a little wet of eye when Clifton throws out the pinch hitter for the final out.
I've watched the game now three times. Still get a little wet of eye when Clifton throws out the pinch hitter for the final out.
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That look on Paige's face from the behind the plate camera is the one that gets me. That kid was a flat out warrior & deserved every second of that dogpile (although her ribs probably thought otherwise, lol )
Thanks for highlighting my most embarrassing admission here in this decade.
I agree. But to me, Paige looks like half warrior, and half innocent 17 year old. Or maybe I'm just getting really old, and all 25 year olds look like they're not old enough to be a prom date. I will say one thing about Parker. She hit so many edges of the strike zone in the last four innings. Just enough that any fair umpired couldn't call it a ball. But not good enough to hit hard.I know she rested the night before, but it was still six outings in seven days, counting Bama as two. Just incredible resolve.
I agree. But to me, Paige looks like half warrior, and half innocent 17 year old. Or maybe I'm just getting really old, and all 25 year olds look like they're not old enough to be a prom date. I will say one thing about Parker. She hit so many edges of the strike zone in the last four innings. Just enough that any fair umpired couldn't call it a ball. But not good enough to hit hard.I know she rested the night before, but it was still six outings in seven days, counting Bama as two. Just incredible resolve.
On the optics provided by the TV, Parker threw so many pitchers that an 1/8 of the ball was touching the zone. Clearly in the zone according to the technology, once she figured out what would and would not be called.
But both game one and three, both started with the Auburn pitcher throwing balls three or four inches off the plate to Miller called a strike. Then in game one, the second pitch worse, called a strike. Barely reachable pitches clearly out of the strike zone, called strikes. It took the bat out of the hands of not just Miller, but all of OUr lefties, who spent the rest of the series in protection mode. None of them had a very productive series. Parker didn't get that pitch until game three.
She was getting pitches high in the zone, but in the zone, called balls. The worst of it was in game one. Bama's pitcher was getting balls three inches out of the zone called a strike. Parker didn't get that call. And she needed the pitch low in the zone called a strike, on her off speed stuff. There were multiple pitches with the entire ball inside the zone and room around it, called a ball.
I started the game talking about that, and there were a couple like you calling me out for it. It took about three innings for them to see what I was talking about. The calls were brutal. Michigan was getting the same kind of screwing.
Parker consistently had the ball touching the upper corner of the zone called a ball. Auburn's pitcher didn't always get that call, but she got it more than we did. I thought about doing a little analysis, based on the KZone, at least I think that's what they were calling it. Parker did finally get that call a couple of inches off the plate called a ball some. But not for strike three.
MIller got screwed on the strike zone the whole tournament. She was a lot less effective because of it. I wasn't basing what I said in the two quotes one my raw view of the strike zone, but on what the graphic on the tv showed.
As an aside, I was going to say that usually the worst home cooking on strike zones in both softball and baseball come in regionals and supers. And it was the case in softball. And in the baseball regionals, though not as glaring as I've seen in the past. I can remember OU trips to Virginia a couple of years when I wanted to throw a brick through my tv. But it has not been the case in the supers in baseball. I have a hunch about that, but would like to verify first.
The Supers have had fair zones in every game I've looked at, switching around. I believe it's part of the reason that the SEC went like 1-6 in games so far, all in home games. A&M is 1-1 against TCU. Florida lost last night to Fla State. LSU got crunched by Coastal Carolina. Mississippi State played two and done against Arizona. Oklahoma State had a nice 9th inning for breathing room in a 5-1 win at South Carolina. All of these were SEC home games.
But both game one and three, both started with the Auburn pitcher throwing balls three or four inches off the plate to Miller called a strike. Then in game one, the second pitch worse, called a strike. Barely reachable pitches clearly out of the strike zone, called strikes. It took the bat out of the hands of not just Miller, but all of OUr lefties, who spent the rest of the series in protection mode. None of them had a very productive series. Parker didn't get that pitch until game three.
She was getting pitches high in the zone, but in the zone, called balls. The worst of it was in game one. Bama's pitcher was getting balls three inches out of the zone called a strike. Parker didn't get that call. And she needed the pitch low in the zone called a strike, on her off speed stuff. There were multiple pitches with the entire ball inside the zone and room around it, called a ball.
I started the game talking about that, and there were a couple like you calling me out for it. It took about three innings for them to see what I was talking about. The calls were brutal. Michigan was getting the same kind of screwing.
Parker consistently had the ball touching the upper corner of the zone called a ball. Auburn's pitcher didn't always get that call, but she got it more than we did. I thought about doing a little analysis, based on the KZone, at least I think that's what they were calling it. Parker did finally get that call a couple of inches off the plate called a ball some. But not for strike three.
MIller got screwed on the strike zone the whole tournament. She was a lot less effective because of it. I wasn't basing what I said in the two quotes one my raw view of the strike zone, but on what the graphic on the tv showed.
As an aside, I was going to say that usually the worst home cooking on strike zones in both softball and baseball come in regionals and supers. And it was the case in softball. And in the baseball regionals, though not as glaring as I've seen in the past. I can remember OU trips to Virginia a couple of years when I wanted to throw a brick through my tv. But it has not been the case in the supers in baseball. I have a hunch about that, but would like to verify first.
The Supers have had fair zones in every game I've looked at, switching around. I believe it's part of the reason that the SEC went like 1-6 in games so far, all in home games. A&M is 1-1 against TCU. Florida lost last night to Fla State. LSU got crunched by Coastal Carolina. Mississippi State played two and done against Arizona. Oklahoma State had a nice 9th inning for breathing room in a 5-1 win at South Carolina. All of these were SEC home games.
Yeah, Paige was out there five days in a row, and so had no touch on her off speed stuff. She fought through without it. So her at maybe 60% and no change up that she can throw for strikes and they are talking like they own her after a two run homer in the seventh for all they got.
So basically in 14 innings, Rhodes hit two out, and that's all the runs they can score. Just awesome hitters. The thing about their defense, was that they had a lot of talent. They made some spectacular plays. A decade from now, Beth Mowins will still be telling us that it was a better catch in left field against Knighten, that Willie Mays made on Vic Wertz in the 1954 WS. But Auburn screwed up plays that have to be made. Their pitcher really didn't deserve to allow any runs in the first inning. But the Sooners took advantage with hustle, and poor Auburn fundamentals. Breaks my heart that their trash talking second baseman, made the two errors that gave us OUr two runs.
Maybe they get to Parker after she pitches 80 innings in a week.
I notice that the top ten plays according to the NCAA website included Shay Knighten's home run that beat Alabama. While that was the only OU play that made the top ten, four of the top five plays were made by Auburn. You might believe that Auburn won the CWS.
But, OU was 9-1 against the SEC. In the regular season, Auburn was 16-7 in the SEC. It is interesting that OU beat Tennessee soundly in Knoxville, 9-0. Tennessee was 2-0 against Auburn the following weekend, run-ruling them 10-2 and 12-1, both in five innings. It is interesting that Auburn only was able to beat our #2 and 3 pitcher in extra innings with our starting pitcher resting after beating Alabama, Michigan, LSU, and Auburn on successive days.
The only hitter who was able to generate an rbi against Paige graduated, At least, she demonstrated some class in the post-game interview. Meanwhile, OU had 24 runs batted in during the CWS, 18 by freshmen, 2 by sophomores. Twenty of twenty-four rbis returning should exert caution on the part of Auburn who lost three of their four top hitters. They return one good hitter and two good pitchers. We return a team.
But, OU was 9-1 against the SEC. In the regular season, Auburn was 16-7 in the SEC. It is interesting that OU beat Tennessee soundly in Knoxville, 9-0. Tennessee was 2-0 against Auburn the following weekend, run-ruling them 10-2 and 12-1, both in five innings. It is interesting that Auburn only was able to beat our #2 and 3 pitcher in extra innings with our starting pitcher resting after beating Alabama, Michigan, LSU, and Auburn on successive days.
The only hitter who was able to generate an rbi against Paige graduated, At least, she demonstrated some class in the post-game interview. Meanwhile, OU had 24 runs batted in during the CWS, 18 by freshmen, 2 by sophomores. Twenty of twenty-four rbis returning should exert caution on the part of Auburn who lost three of their four top hitters. They return one good hitter and two good pitchers. We return a team.
That double play on top of the strikeout, erased bases loaded and no outs and was the most important play of the tournament. Knighten's homer was second. I'd think Romero's three run dinger for OU's only runs of game one would fit into the top ten somewhere.
But I think most of us would rather have OUr girls wearing championship tee shirts more than being in seven of the labeled top ten plays. The SEC needs some sort of alternate reward. Like a second grade participation trophy.
But I think most of us would rather have OUr girls wearing championship tee shirts more than being in seven of the labeled top ten plays. The SEC needs some sort of alternate reward. Like a second grade participation trophy.
My thoughts were that the strike zones were a rectangle (as they should be) rather than the square ESPN had on the screen.
Problem is, while the actual strike zone is higher than it is wide, the WCWS umpires had it wider than tall.
With very few exceptions, everyone's strike zone is taller than it is wide.
The umpires were, overall and in general, fairly consistent with the wide calls. One of them even gave the wide calls only on one side of the plate.
While not accurate, if they are consistent, the players can adjust.
The BIG problem with the umpiring, was even with the ESSPN's square tighter horizontally than the true zone, the umpires consistently missed strikes in the upper and lower parts of the strike zone.
If one pitch was at the top of the zone and 2-3 inches outside, it was a ball.
The next pitch would be 3-4 inches outside, but down about two inches and it was a strike.
Pretty maddening.
The women's softball strike zone isn't really taller than it is wide, though the techno box was slightly rectangular. Top of the knees, to the bottom of the sternum, isn't that tall when somebody 5'7 bends into a stance.
The one time it was truly rectangular in the way it was called, was when Bama was pitching. But that same ump didn't give Parker the same call.
Umpires set up on the inside corner, so they get a good look at that. But a ball moving laterally on the outside corner is a pure guess, really. You just consistently call what you see. But saying that batters just adjust is a little tough when the ball four inches outside at the knees is being called a strike.
The one time it was truly rectangular in the way it was called, was when Bama was pitching. But that same ump didn't give Parker the same call.
Umpires set up on the inside corner, so they get a good look at that. But a ball moving laterally on the outside corner is a pure guess, really. You just consistently call what you see. But saying that batters just adjust is a little tough when the ball four inches outside at the knees is being called a strike.
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