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Huh, I can't think of any. This post might be on page 3 tomorrow with no replies....

If I had one it would be punt returns, but I really believe Stoops would have to want a safe catch over a return. Just my thoughts.............
 
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Oline still is a bit flimsy. Mayfield's scrambling neutralizes most of it, but the fact he has to scramble in the first place is a relative weakness. A better Oline might free up a blocking assignment for Perine or Mixon on some plays.

The secondary is a bit small. Sanchez often is looking across at a receiver bigger and taller than he is.

Other than that, we are scary good.
 
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Oh there are weaknesses.

A freshman kicker and punter, who may not be great in the clutch can be a factor. Baker's relative lack of height, makes it hard to throw the ball in the middle of the field. Two freshman offensive tackles are vulnerable to stunts and blitzes at times.

OUr whole defense is aligned to defend spread offenses with lightweight offensive players. An offensive team with size and big running backs could be a problem. OUr two most important backs and OUr quarterback have leg issues nd are vulnerable to re-injury. Running backs are often bigger than OUr OUtside linebackers. Even some quarterbacks are.

We've been very inconsistent in KO returning. OUr normal D only has three big guys on the field at a time. A power running game can be an issue.

We have one great receiver, but the others are inconsistent. We rely a lot on pace. A good defense that keeps us from getting that first 1st down can make it hard for us to use pace.

That's a little harsh. But every team in the final four is good enough to beat any other team. If Baker isn't out there doing what he does, then the rest gets to be hard to sustain. If he plays really well, then we can win the whole deal and look good doing it.
 
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Oh there are weaknesses.

A freshman kicker and punter, who may not be great in the clutch can be a factor. Baker's relative lack of height, makes it hard to throw the ball in the middle of the field. Two freshman offensive tackles are vulnerable to stunts and blitzes at times.

OUr whole defense is aligned to defend spread offenses with lightweight offensive players. An offensive team with size and big running backs could be a problem. OUr two most important backs and OUr quarterback have leg issues nd are vulnerable to re-injury. Running backs are often bigger than OUr OUtside linebackers. Even some quarterbacks are.

We've been very inconsistent in KO returning. OUr normal D only has three big guys on the field at a time. A power running game can be an issue.

We have one great receiver, but the others are inconsistent. We rely a lot on pace. A good defense that keeps us from getting that first 1st down can make it hard for us to use pace.

That's a little harsh. But every team in the final four is good enough to beat any other team. If Baker isn't out there doing what he does, then the rest gets to be hard to sustain. If he plays really well, then we can win the whole deal and look good doing it.
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This is the one that immediately came to mind for me. Take a look at the 3 big game run OU just went on:

Baylor- Shep had 14 catches, nobody else had more than 2
TCU- Shep had 8 grabs, six others had one. That's it.
OSU- Shep finished with 10 catches, Baxter was next high with 2. Five others had 1 each.

If it'd been a case of Mayfield just throwing Shep's way 90% of the time, that'd be a different thing to talk about, but that's not the case. There have been more than a few flat out drops (even a couple by Shep himself last game) & I don't think that's going to cut it from here on.
 
The weakness that I've seen is also a strength. I'm going to play the card that no one wants to hear and say the corners. I have re-watched the games and I can tell you that there are more burns in the secondary than there are outstanding plays.

In fairness, the B12 plays a different style of offense from a lot of others and you WILL get burned no matter who you are. This is where I see our strength. Having faith in our corners and knowing they are going to get burned on occasion is allowing people like Striker to cut the hell loose and go after the QB. That in my book is a bigger plus than the plays that the corners make.

I really hope we continue to make the use the same scheme. It really will kill us on occasion but if we can sack the QB or cause a fumble or even disrupt timing, it is well worth it. As much shit as I talk about getting burned, I wouldn't change a damn thing.
 
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LongTimeSooner said:
Oline still is a bit flimsy. Mayfield's scrambling neutralizes most of it, but the fact he has to scramble in the first place is a relative weakness. A better Oline might free up a blocking assignment for Perine or Mixon on some plays.

The secondary is a bit small. Sanchez often is looking across at a receiver bigger and taller than he is.

Other than that, we are scary good.
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Biggest, and potentially only notable one.
 
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I do not know if it will be a weakness or not. But whoever makes the finals is going to be playing in two very physical football games. Depth is almost certain to be an issue.

All four teams will have someplace in their roster where the depth will be a larger dropoff than other places. They are going to need to stay healthy in those places. Including the good guys.
 
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If we make it through the Orange Bowl with a victory, I feel much better about making it all the way. I think Clemson is the worst possible draw for us. I think Alabama and MSU play right into our strengths. Especially Alabama. They are a one dimensional team with Henry as the main target. We've beaten them before with him on the team and I'll feel better about a final with him as the target than Clemson.
 
I think OU matches up better against Clemson than the other two. Absolute looking at the Offense, I am looking at the Ds. Both Ala. and MSU much better at defensing the run. Clemson not so much based on the last 4 weeks of the season against only one good team, Carolina. Think we can get over 40 against Clemson.
 
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Okie70 said:
I think OU matches up better against Clemson than the other two. Absolute looking at the Offense, I am looking at the Ds. Both Ala. and MSU much better at defensing the run. Clemson not so much based on the last 4 weeks of the season against only one good team, Carolina. Think we can get over 40 against Clemson.
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I agree with you on the run. I think we set up the pass off the play action plays and can perform quite well because they are so concerned about Perine and Mixon. Clemson defensively poses a lot larger challenge. The QB from Alabama is not very good. The QB from MSU is fair. The QB from Clemson is much better than both combined. He is the key to winning defensively I think. Get at the guy and rattle him early and often.
 
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Backup quarterback
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Sure seems that way. Before the TCU game, I'd have thought that was one of OUr strongest positions of depth. I'm still not ready to say it's a weakness. I think Trevor had a really bad night. He looked out of synch from the first snap he took.

But he has certainly had quality outings in the past and I believe he might again. But that was not a great performance. I don't think it helped that with the game on the line, that we were playing the second crew of receivers because he was more familiar with them. It also didn't help a bit when first Perine and then Mixon had pretty significant ankle turns about six plays apart. I think Trevor can be a really competent piece of a puzzle. But I don't think he can carry an offense.

Not many number two quarterbacks can.
 
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Plainosooner said:
Sure seems that way. Before the TCU game, I'd have thought that was one of OUr strongest positions of depth. I'm still not ready to say it's a weakness. I think Trevor had a really bad night. He looked out of synch from the first snap he took.

But he has certainly had quality outings in the past and I believe he might again. But that was not a great performance. I don't think it helped that with the game on the line, that we were playing the second crew of receivers because he was more familiar with them. It also didn't help a bit when first Perine and then Mixon had pretty significant ankle turns about six plays apart. I think Trevor can be a really competent piece of a puzzle. But I don't think he can carry an offense.

Not many number two quarterbacks can.
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I didn't think about this but it's true. Knock Mayfield out and we are done. Trevor is on par with Swoops. He may have a great game, but the odds are he's going to suck because he isn't accurate at all with throws and people know when he's in, that he's probably going to hand off or run it.

Mayfield on the other hand is a threat both ways. He can deliver the ball where it needs to be AND he can run it if he has to.

Put a spy on Trevor and it's over.
 
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K2C Sooner said:
Huh, I can't think of any. This post might be on page 3 tomorrow with no replies....

If I had one it would be punt returns, but I really believe Stoops would have to want a safe catch over a return. Just my thoughts.............
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Hey I'll be the first to say the defense has improved and also impressed me some, but there is still a bit of concern, for me anyway. Baylor's freshman QB laid 30+ pts on us. We struggled to prevent the back up QB of TCU from racking up oints as well. I'm one to believe that the offense will need to continue to step it up. Clemson will not be our easist match up of the 3 playoff teams.
 
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Not really fair to knock our backup QB, for multiple reasons.

1) Name another team that could afford to lose their starting QB, and still win in the CFP. I'll save you the trouble, possibly Alabama because they're so run heavy. But then, the same argument can be made about them...take out Henry, and they don't stand a chance to win either. All teams have a "star" player that got them to where they are. We're no different.

2) As bad as he looked against TCU, he's also looked much better before. And in clutch situations. And not just against Alabama. Yes, it's fair to worry about a clunker, but give him his earned credit as well.
 
Plainosooner said:
I do not know if it will be a weakness or not. But whoever makes the finals is going to be playing in two very physical football games. Depth is almost certain to be an issue.

All four teams will have someplace in their roster where the depth will be a larger dropoff than other places. They are going to need to stay healthy in those places. Including the good guys.
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Yes. Especially at QB. Mayfield's backup, or the lack of a suitable backup, is OU's primary weakness in spite of our overall strength. Baker goes down and the Sooners are toast. Is there any other player that this could be said? I don't think so.
 
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Not really fair to knock our backup QB, for multiple reasons.

1) Name another team that could afford to lose their starting QB, and still win in the CFP. I'll save you the trouble, possibly Alabama because they're so run heavy. But then, the same argument can be made about them...take out Henry, and they don't stand a chance to win either. All teams have a "star" player that got them to where they are. We're no different.

2) As bad as he looked against TCU, he's also looked much better before. And in clutch situations. And not just against Alabama. Yes, it's fair to worry about a clunker, but give him his earned credit as well.
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The OP posed the question regarding only OU and not any other team. I answered the question accordingly....and knowing that most teams are often one injured player away from gloom and doom. That's common knowledge.
Simply stated.....so goes Mayfield, so goes OU.
 
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We have not played an offense even remotely close to what Clemson has. Don't kid yourself.
 
Who's that? one dimensional Tech, TCU without their best WR and QB, and Baylor without their starting QB?

Let's be real.

I like our chances against anyone; I just think to say "this team has no weakness" is foolish.
 
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I like our chances against anyone; I just think to say "this team has no weakness" is foolish.
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You wrote "We have not played an offense even remotely close to what Clemson has", which is an overdramatic, incorrect statement.

Clemson's offense is statistically close to Tulsa.
 
CTOkie said:
The OP posed the question regarding only OU and not any other team. I answered the question accordingly....and knowing that most teams are often one injured player away from gloom and doom. That's common knowledge.
Simply stated.....so goes Mayfield, so goes OU.
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Very fair.
 
LongTimeSooner said:
Clemson's offense is statistically close to Tulsa.
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IFL. Best of luck and may the best team win, but...your comment above...

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CTOkie said:
Without their starting quarterbacks, TCU, Baylor and OSU were not the same teams they had been prior to playing OU.
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But this doesn't mean OU wouldn't have won these games playing each team at full strength. We will never know, but....and I hate using this....at this point, what does it matter? Wow, that really didn't feel good.
 
MiccoMacey said:
Not really fair to knock our backup QB, for multiple reasons.

1) Name another team that could afford to lose their starting QB, and still win in the CFP. I'll save you the trouble, possibly Alabama because they're so run heavy. But then, the same argument can be made about them...take out Henry, and they don't stand a chance to win either. All teams have a "star" player that got them to where they are. We're no different.

tOSU. They won last year w/ their 3rd string QB... just saying
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