Kavanaugh hearings

[CTOkie]

Just curious....there have been numerous protests interrupting the hearing over the past two weeks.
How have these people been allowed to attend ?
They are protesting Kavanaugh's nomination, which in and of itself I have no problem with. It is the way these people are disrupting the hearings that troubles me.
This crap diminishes whatever cause/causes these protesters are for, but no doubt the media and Democratic leaders will praise this behavior as noble and courageous.
I regard many here as very knowledgeable of history and politics and I want to gauge your opinions with mine.
As for Kavanaugh's chances, I think he faces a very slippery slope and if he gets the job, I think the backlash (episodes of violence and division) will amp up even more...if that's possible.

 

[sybarite43]

I would be glad to talk to you. But, I don't want to do it on a sports board.

I tend to begin any discussion about two billion years ago. Every issue arises from its own environment and point in history..

Senate hearings are usually available only by someone's invitation. One party or the other tends to arrange for its own crowd. It makes little difference since the hearings, themselves, are little more than stage plays, opportunities for the pretentious statements of the uninformed and unenlightened. I don't know that there should be a penalty for contempt of Congress when a hearing is in session.

I don't know that Kavanaugh is even relevant. The current Congress has changed some rules and revised some traditions. I think they will find that the next group of Senators to arrive on the scene will make even more changes. Article III, Section 1 is likely to become the most relevant concern in the next few years.

 

[OUnabomber]

Just curious....there have been numerous protests interrupting the hearing over the past two weeks.
How have these people been allowed to attend ?
They are protesting Kavanaugh's nomination, which in and of itself I have no problem with. It is the way these people are disrupting the hearings that troubles me.
This crap diminishes whatever cause/causes these protesters are for, but no doubt the media and Democratic leaders will praise this behavior as noble and courageous.
I regard many here as very knowledgeable of history and politics and I want to gauge your opinions with mine.
As for Kavanaugh's chances, I think he faces a very slippery slope and if he gets the job, I think the backlash (episodes of violence and division) will amp up even more...if that's possible.

It was coordinated with the democrats. Its all a part of their little "resist" movement. Pathetic if you ask me.

 

[Oklabama]

Really? This is such a political bunch of crap. The Dems ask the same questions that go unanswered and the Republicans ask the same questions to reinforce what they want people to hear. Bottom line, Graham summed it up best.......you have to win to name the judge. Game over.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Soros. He's bought and paid for it.

I think the more they do shit like this, the more the masses will resist their party.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Really? This is such a political bunch of crap. The Dems ask the same questions that go unanswered and the Republicans ask the same questions to reinforce what they want people to hear. Bottom line, Graham summed it up best.......you have to win to name the judge. Game over.

And this is why I voted for Trump. For the Supreme Court Justices. And it's why he'll get my vote again.

 

[22LR]

And this is why I voted for Trump. For the Supreme Court Justices. And it's why he'll get my vote again.

Yep. And more SCOTUS picks to come. It's a great time to be alive.

 

[CTOkie]

If Kavanaugh survives....and I think he will....brace yourselves for more trantrums. We may have seen only the tip of the iceberg so far.
This time, they may be even more numerous and violent.

 

[trademarcs]

It would be a great time to get into the comfort pet business

 

[owenfieldreams]

While I am not a fan of Trump, I've always felt that the serving president has the prerogative. I have a much greater issue with Garland not being approved, not because he wasn't qualified but the way the majority handled it and I would say the same thing if the Dems had done the same thing.

 

[22LR]

Like they did Robert Bork.

 

[owenfieldreams]

Bork lost the confirmation vote 58-42. 2 Dems voted for him including David Boren. 6 Republicans voted against him.In today's Senate the vote would been and will be on strict party lines although I suspect there will be dems like Joe Manson and Heidi Hiedkamp who will vote for. Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed.

 

[soonermade]

Stop letting people into the hearings, they can watch it on TV like everyone else. Get a clue government and stop playing these political games that only further divide the country.

 

[Jeremiahxyz]

"Political Parties are the seeds of division" guess who said that ? It was 234
years ago. His initials were GW. And yes he was dead on. Jefferson the
Republican, they called them Anti-Federalist back then. The other side was
Hamilton the Democrat they called them Federalist. To GW, George
Washington they were no different than Whigs and Tories. Just my opinion
but GW was way ahead of his time.

 

[Oklabama]

"Political Parties are the seeds of division" guess who said that ? It was 234
years ago. His initials were GW. And yes he was dead on. Jefferson the
Republican, they called them Anti-Federalist back then. The other side was
Hamilton the Democrat they called them Federalist. To GW, George
Washington they were no different than Whigs and Tories. Just my opinion
but GW was way ahead of his time.

Wouldn’t it be something if there were no political parties. People would actually have to listen to candidates to learn what they stand for instead of going blindly into a voter booth and selecting the name beside the Red or Blue. Without a doubt a big percentage of voters cast a vote for people they don’t know anything about except their political party in state and local elections. Happens every four years too when the stakes are even more important.

 

[BillyRay]

Wouldn’t it be something if there were no political parties. People would actually have to listen to candidates to learn what they stand for instead of going blindly into a voter booth and selecting the name beside the Red or Blue.

Most people would prolly be too damn confused to even make a decision in this scenario. Without it being color coded for them, they prolly wouldn't even attempt to vote.

 

[Oklabama]

Most people would prolly be too damn confused to even make a decision in this scenario. Without it being color coded for them, they prolly wouldn't even attempt to vote.

Lmao

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

While I am not a fan of Trump, I've always felt that the serving president has the prerogative. I have a much greater issue with Garland not being approved, not because he wasn't qualified but the way the majority handled it and I would say the same thing if the Dems had done the same thing.

Supreme court justices are nominated by the president, and appointed on advice and consent of the senate. Garland was nominated, but the senate did not give its consent. All as set forth in the CotUS.

 

[sybarite43]

Supreme court justices are nominated by the president, and appointed on advice and consent of the senate. Garland was nominated, but the senate did not give its consent. All as set forth in the CotUS.

The Senate refused to consider an Obama appointment, something that broke the traditions by establishing that they would wait for a successor of their party. OK. So, let's see how they feel when the next generation, probably assuming power as soon as 2020-2024, decides to implement Article III Section 1 as written, that the judges serve on good behavior. Of course, a ruling that overturns accepted tradition would be bad behavior. When you start playing games, both sides can play.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

The Senate refused to consider an Obama appointment, something that broke the traditions by establishing that they would wait for a successor of their party. OK. So, let's see how they feel when the next generation, probably assuming power as soon as 2020-2024, decides to implement Article III Section 1 as written, that the judges serve on good behavior. Of course, a ruling that overturns accepted tradition would be bad behavior. When you start playing games, both sides can play.

Lame duck. And as your God of the United States once stated, "Elections have consequences". Your party screwed around, cheated their own, forced Clinton on y'all, and then lost. That loss cost you. If the Dems would have won, Kavenaugh wouldn't even be in the conversation.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

The Senate refused to consider an Obama appointment, something that broke the traditions by establishing that they would wait for a successor of their party. OK. So, let's see how they feel when the next generation, probably assuming power as soon as 2020-2024, decides to implement Article III Section 1 as written, that the judges serve on good behavior. Of course, a ruling that overturns accepted tradition would be bad behavior. When you start playing games, both sides can play.

The Garland non-hearing was also consistent with the "Biden Rule." Looks like the left's shortsightedness came back to bite them on the butt. Such is the life of liberalism.

And if the left ever really does try to get cute and start screwing around like that, well, ya know, 2nd Amendment.

 

[humblesooner]

Most people would prolly be too damn confused to even make a decision in this scenario. Without it being color coded for them, they prolly wouldn't even attempt to vote.

I actually do not vote for people I don't know in primaries, just for this reason. I do not know the candidates or their stances and don't have the time to educate myself on all 400 of them (judges, clerks, councilmen, dog catchers ,etc). I do know that my beliefs are closer to one party much more than the other. I also know that very few people win elections without the backing of one of the major parties. That is how I vote in the general elections.

 

[owenfieldreams]

The litany of broken precedents or bogus new ones instituted to counter opposition is a snapshot of what's wrong with Congress today. Proper decorum and rules of order have been sh** canned for political expediency and this applies to both sides of the aisle.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

One of the reasons I enthusiastically voted for Trump other than Justice picks? He believes my brain is fully capable of allowing me to obtain a photo ID to present at the voting booth. President Trump believes I'm not too stupid to manage all by myself.

 

[okieman2110]

There is a reason the American Indian said white man speaks with fork tounge...