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I've been quiet for more than 12 hours and have read a lot about why we have a new FB coach.

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I've read that Bob has unknown heart problems. I've read the official statement with the curious wording that health was not a "deciding factor," in what was announced today.

I've read that Bob was told by members of the Board of Regents to fire his brother, and he refused.

I'v been told that Bob wants to watch his sons' senior year, and it occurred to me without reading about it, that he want to allow his sons to have a totally free decision, without anyone off in the darkness claiming they only got consideration from Oklahoma cause their daddy was head coach. Now, they can go where they want to go, without any extraneous issue. I've even read that they're both going to Northwestern, which is why Bob bought a place in Chicago in the last six months.

I've read that this has been in the works for six months, since before the bowl game, and it was just Bob picking the time to announce it.

Bob is a man who cares a ton about his family, and I do believe that his sons are a big factor in this decision. I expected it a year ago. And I believe the Bob truly did sense that this was the time to "pass the baton." BUT ...

I watched the two announcements. The first one by my favorite coach, standing publicly to paraphrase the written announcement, citing a whole lot of thank you's and not much specifically about why.

I watched Lincoln's announcement, and was struck by several things. One was that the moment looked a little overwhelming for him. As he talked about those who'd influenced his career, it lost his composure when he referenced Coach Stoops. Took close to a minute to compose himself. His voice box just went temporarily out of function. But two things he said, struck me. Majorly struck me. He talked about this coming together so quickly, that his parents couldn't be there. They would have otherwise. He mentioned how quickly it came together, one other time.

So the talk I'd heard and read earlier today makes no real sense in the speculation. This wasn't an orderly carefully planned transition. Perhaps Berry Tramel is to blame for that. He spilled beans prior to their being cooked well enough to eat. But we had this moment or two early when we knew it was coming, when Lincoln had not been announced as the new guy. Stoops was leaving. But we hadn't confirmed his replacement yet. That tell us that what was going on here came to pass abruptly behind the scenes. Just the fact that it didn't take place before spring practice, tells us something.

I don't know if Bob's heart really has changed enough to step down. Maybe there are just concerns. But if that were the case, I believe they'd have told us. They told us the opposite.

This sounds very much like the Board of Regents sticking its nose into football operations, and Bob telling them to stick it.

The clincher for me wasn't what I heard at the two announcements. It's what I saw, even if we turn down the sound. I saw the countenance of Joe Castiglione. I've never seen Joe C look like that, publicly. There was no smile. None of his trademark cheeriness.

I don't believe that Bob wanted to go, but I think he damn sure doesn't want some businessman with political clout in the board that runs the university, telling him how to run the football program. One can make the case that we all have a boss, for accountability. But the best bosses put great people in place and let them do the job they were hired to do. And if anybody has earned that freedom, even if you despise half of OUr defensive staff, Bob Stoops has earned it. Not a guy with political clout has the authority to give ultimatums. And Bob Stoops has earned the right to tell the guy to shove it.

I believe both happened. So with Drake and Isaac about to play their final seasons of high school football, the timing for Bob was just right.
 
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Perhaps Bob was asked to step down 2 yrs ago and he asked to be allowed to find a replacement and groom him, enter Lincoln Riley. Perhaps they agreed as you say because Bob "earned the right." The right to go out on his own terms and leave the program in good hands. Its a win win for everyone involved. OU comes out smelling like a Rose because Stoops was not fired or forced to resign a couple of yrs ago at the risk of OU looking foolish for firing the all time winningest Coach at OU. Stoops saves face by being able to go out on his own rather than being fired or forced to step down and Riley who steps right in the HC position without the University having to go through a HC search at the risk of losing recruits. Maybe Riley was the HC in waiting without it ever being mentioned to the public, we all know how that works out. Smooth transition at just the right time.

A lil piggie fan friend of mine told me today that he was surprised that Sooner fans were not melting down the board over Riley being named the HC with no HC experience and asked how I felt about it? I simply said well, Stoops did not have any HC experience either but look at what he did at OU. I also said that Boren and Joe C. did not ask for my approval.

I like Bob a lot and hope it is not because of a medical condition. I wish nothing but the best for him and his family and I hope he knows that the majority of OU fans are thankful he came to OU when he did. He was not perfect but none of us are. It reminds me of an old saying, "Nothing good lasts forever." In a world where a lot of CFB Coaches are lucky to last a few yrs Bob endured and he deserves a lot of credit and thanks for bringing OU back from the ashes. Thanks Coach.
 
Tell your piggie fan that we've had three great coaches at OU, each for between 16 and 18 seasons. All three came to OU as first time head coaches. Two were promoted as OU assistants. Bob came to OU as the DC at Florida, a year removed from being a primary reason why they broke through for their first national title.
 
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Tell your piggie fan that we've had three great coaches at OU, each for between 16 and 18 seasons. All three came to OU as first time head coaches. Two were promoted as OU assistants. Bob came to OU as the DC at Florida, a year removed from being a primary reason why they broke through for their first national title.

I just let them waller in the pig slop that is the HC they have now. Ha ha He is what 25-26 in 4 yrs there at 4 million a year? What a bargain!
 
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To Your Points, Plaino...

I've heard most of those, along with several others. Among them, some appear to be possibilities; others, hogwash...oink, oink!

I don't believe that the BOR tried to bring the hammer down on MIKE, AT THIS TIME. That may have been the case, earlier, and it may be, later, but once the current staff was in place, going forward, I believe that would have realized that they had missed that opportunity, for the 2017 season.

I was surprised by your comment regarding Joe C's countenance. I was in a restaurant where the sound had been replaced by CC, and I was shocked to see the absence of Joe's trademark smile. I even remarked that he looked rather robotic.

Something 'Intangible' struck me about the purchase of the Chicago property. Call it Woman's Intuition, or something else, but it did get my attention, accompanied by a series of ??????

My take-away from the entire broadcast was Bob's repeated use of 'the last week and a half'. I believe that if we care to continue this hypothetical 'witch hunt', that, therein lies our clue. Whassup?

IMO, Bob was reassuring about his health. However, that H Word is much broader. If Pres. Boren's health has become more questionable, then the theory of Joe C. replacing him, and Bob replacing Joe C. does bear scrutiny.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...nt-david-boren-recovering-after-heart-surgery

Finally, we should not overlook the fact that this all may be Trump's doing. The POTUS could use someone with Bob's 'Attitude' in the WH...:cool:
 
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I've read that Bob has unknown heart problems. I've read the official statement with the curious wording that health was not a "deciding factor," in what was announced today.

I've read that Bob was told by members of the Board of Regents to fire his brother, and he refused.

I'v been told that Bob wants to watch his sons' senior year, and it occurred to me without reading about it, that he want to allow his sons to have a totally free decision, without anyone off in the darkness claiming they only got consideration from Oklahoma cause their daddy was head coach. Now, they can go where they want to go, without any extraneous issue. I've even read that they're both going to Northwestern, which is why Bob bought a place in Chicago in the last six months.

I've read that this has been in the works for six months, since before the bowl game, and it was just Bob picking the time to announce it.

Bob is a man who cares a ton about his family, and I do believe that his sons are a big factor in this decision. I expected it a year ago. And I believe the Bob truly did sense that this was the time to "pass the baton." BUT ...

I watched the two announcements. The first one by my favorite coach, standing publicly to paraphrase the written announcement, citing a whole lot of thank you's and not much specifically about why.

I watched Lincoln's announcement, and was struck by several things. One was that the moment looked a little overwhelming for him. As he talked about those who'd influenced his career, it lost his composure when he referenced Coach Stoops. Took close to a minute to compose himself. His voice box just went temporarily out of function. But two things he said, struck me. Majorly struck me. He talked about this coming together so quickly, that his parents couldn't be there. They would have otherwise. He mentioned how quickly it came together, one other time.

So the talk I'd heard and read earlier today makes no real sense in the speculation. This wasn't an orderly carefully planned transition. Perhaps Berry Tramel is to blame for that. He spilled beans prior to their being cooked well enough to eat. But we had this moment or two early when we knew it was coming, when Lincoln had not been announced as the new guy. Stoops was leaving. But we hadn't confirmed his replacement yet. That tell us that what was going on here came to pass abruptly behind the scenes. Just the fact that it didn't take place before spring practice, tells us something.

I don't know if Bob's heart really has changed enough to step down. Maybe there are just concerns. But if that were the case, I believe they'd have told us. They told us the opposite.

This sounds very much like the Board of Regents sticking its nose into football operations, and Bob telling them to stick it.

The clincher for me wasn't what I heard at the two announcements. It's what I saw, even if we turn down the sound. I saw the countenance of Joe Castiglione. I've never seen Joe C look like that, publicly. There was no smile. None of his trademark cheeriness.

I don't believe that Bob wanted to go, but I think he damn sure doesn't want some businessman with political clout in the board that runs the university, telling him how to run the football program. One can make the case that we all have a boss, for accountability. But the best bosses put great people in place and let them do the job they were hired to do. And if anybody has earned that freedom, even if you despise half of OUr defensive staff, Bob Stoops has earned it. Not a guy with political clout has the authority to give ultimatums. And Bob Stoops has earned the right to tell the guy to shove it.

I believe both happened. So with Drake and Isaac about to play their final seasons of high school football, the timing for Bob was just right.


Plaino, so what happens to Mike Stoops. Will he be DC in 2017 or shown the door before then? Had hoped he would leave before the start of last season but at this juncture (with Bob leaving) I'm hoping that he stays for 2017 and then asked to move on. IMO
 
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Wondering if Bob deciding to retire does not have more to do with pressure to fire his brother (Bob is not firing Mike) and/or heat he has taken over Joe Mixon. Both would seem to be factors.
 
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Wondering if Bob deciding to retire does not have more to do with pressure to fire his brother (Bob is not firing Mike) and/or heat he has taken over Joe Mixon. Both would seem to be factors.
I think Stoops saw how other schools were recruiting kids away from OU based on a universal feeling that Stoops was a year or two away from retiring.
2 Oklahoma kids committed to Texas, an elite QB commitment flipped to Texas, two WR's decommitted.....need any more proof ?
 
I have never heard that recruiting was suffering because of the uncertainty about Bob's continuing as HC. I have heard that recruits were being told that L.R. was about to leave for a H.C. gig.
 
Whatever it is, it's gotta be something that happened out of the blue. OU just inked Riley to that new big time contract not long ago. Barry Switzer was on the radio saying he was hanging with Bob in his brand new coaches office less than a week ago and Bob was getting everything unpacked. Riley mentioned it occurred to quickly his parents were even able to make it up in time for the announcement. Former players have said how much getting another national title meant to Bob, and for him to just retire with the program really headed in a great direction just doesn't add up.
 
I just let them waller in the pig slop that is the HC they have now. Ha ha He is what 25-26 in 4 yrs there at 4 million a year? What a bargain!

If you want a real bargain or actually a laugh try tuning in to 103.7 the Buzz and listining to David Bazzel ( or however you spell it ) try to talk about Oklahoma Football History. Hint: He has no clue.
 
I've read that Bob has unknown heart problems. I've read the official statement with the curious wording that health was not a "deciding factor," in what was announced today.

I've read that Bob was told by members of the Board of Regents to fire his brother, and he refused.

I'v been told that Bob wants to watch his sons' senior year, and it occurred to me without reading about it, that he want to allow his sons to have a totally free decision, without anyone off in the darkness claiming they only got consideration from Oklahoma cause their daddy was head coach. Now, they can go where they want to go, without any extraneous issue. I've even read that they're both going to Northwestern, which is why Bob bought a place in Chicago in the last six months.

I've read that this has been in the works for six months, since before the bowl game, and it was just Bob picking the time to announce it.

Bob is a man who cares a ton about his family, and I do believe that his sons are a big factor in this decision. I expected it a year ago. And I believe the Bob truly did sense that this was the time to "pass the baton." BUT ...

I watched the two announcements. The first one by my favorite coach, standing publicly to paraphrase the written announcement, citing a whole lot of thank you's and not much specifically about why.

I watched Lincoln's announcement, and was struck by several things. One was that the moment looked a little overwhelming for him. As he talked about those who'd influenced his career, it lost his composure when he referenced Coach Stoops. Took close to a minute to compose himself. His voice box just went temporarily out of function. But two things he said, struck me. Majorly struck me. He talked about this coming together so quickly, that his parents couldn't be there. They would have otherwise. He mentioned how quickly it came together, one other time.

So the talk I'd heard and read earlier today makes no real sense in the speculation. This wasn't an orderly carefully planned transition. Perhaps Berry Tramel is to blame for that. He spilled beans prior to their being cooked well enough to eat. But we had this moment or two early when we knew it was coming, when Lincoln had not been announced as the new guy. Stoops was leaving. But we hadn't confirmed his replacement yet. That tell us that what was going on here came to pass abruptly behind the scenes. Just the fact that it didn't take place before spring practice, tells us something.

I don't know if Bob's heart really has changed enough to step down. Maybe there are just concerns. But if that were the case, I believe they'd have told us. They told us the opposite.

This sounds very much like the Board of Regents sticking its nose into football operations, and Bob telling them to stick it.

The clincher for me wasn't what I heard at the two announcements. It's what I saw, even if we turn down the sound. I saw the countenance of Joe Castiglione. I've never seen Joe C look like that, publicly. There was no smile. None of his trademark cheeriness.

I don't believe that Bob wanted to go, but I think he damn sure doesn't want some businessman with political clout in the board that runs the university, telling him how to run the football program. One can make the case that we all have a boss, for accountability. But the best bosses put great people in place and let them do the job they were hired to do. And if anybody has earned that freedom, even if you despise half of OUr defensive staff, Bob Stoops has earned it. Not a guy with political clout has the authority to give ultimatums. And Bob Stoops has earned the right to tell the guy to shove it.

I believe both happened. So with Drake and Isaac about to play their final seasons of high school football, the timing for Bob was just right.

Plaino

This is very well thought out and I think it could be possible but I am not sure any of us will find out the real reasons for this sudden announcement until later down the line. I would much rather find out he left because of your scenario rather than any possible health issues.
 
I haven't heard Riley yet.
But with respect to having it come together too quick for his parents to be there, I believe this may be true.
I've heard the announcement was planned for Friday.
Main reason?
Let Coach Gasso and her National Champions have their well-deserved time in the spotlight.
There is a celebration planned for tonight.
Lincoln's parents could have been planning the trip Thursday night.
Yesterday, it began to leak that Bob was retiring. Rather than let rumors stew for 48 hours, they decided (too quickly for Lincoln's parents to attend) to proceed with the announcement.
Bob is too classy to let something like this interfere with the softball team's moment of glory.
The leaks took it out of his / their hands.
 
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I will say this. This is the day that everyone should have known was coming someday. Bob Stoops was never bigger than the program. The program was always going to keep going after Bob decided to hang it up. Yesterday was certainly out of the blue. But hey, OU football will continue.
Looking at your sig pic, I now know why Bob left. He was tired of the Gatorade baths.
That left most of us with the same looks on our faces as the two gals in the other picture.
 
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I've read that Bob has unknown heart problems. I've read the official statement with the curious wording that health was not a "deciding factor," in what was announced today.

I've read that Bob was told by members of the Board of Regents to fire his brother, and he refused.

I'v been told that Bob wants to watch his sons' senior year, and it occurred to me without reading about it, that he want to allow his sons to have a totally free decision, without anyone off in the darkness claiming they only got consideration from Oklahoma cause their daddy was head coach. Now, they can go where they want to go, without any extraneous issue. I've even read that they're both going to Northwestern, which is why Bob bought a place in Chicago in the last six months.

I've read that this has been in the works for six months, since before the bowl game, and it was just Bob picking the time to announce it.

I stopped reading your long drivel after the second paragraph when you said your sources told you the BOR wanted Bob to fire his brother. Some of you on here are really something--completely clueless and believe even wild rumor that you should be smart enough to know isn't true. So the BOR is now in the coaching decision game? Dude, you need to fire your "source".

Bob is a man who cares a ton about his family, and I do believe that his sons are a big factor in this decision. I expected it a year ago. And I believe the Bob truly did sense that this was the time to "pass the baton." BUT ...

I watched the two announcements. The first one by my favorite coach, standing publicly to paraphrase the written announcement, citing a whole lot of thank you's and not much specifically about why.

I watched Lincoln's announcement, and was struck by several things. One was that the moment looked a little overwhelming for him. As he talked about those who'd influenced his career, it lost his composure when he referenced Coach Stoops. Took close to a minute to compose himself. His voice box just went temporarily out of function. But two things he said, struck me. Majorly struck me. He talked about this coming together so quickly, that his parents couldn't be there. They would have otherwise. He mentioned how quickly it came together, one other time.

So the talk I'd heard and read earlier today makes no real sense in the speculation. This wasn't an orderly carefully planned transition. Perhaps Berry Tramel is to blame for that. He spilled beans prior to their being cooked well enough to eat. But we had this moment or two early when we knew it was coming, when Lincoln had not been announced as the new guy. Stoops was leaving. But we hadn't confirmed his replacement yet. That tell us that what was going on here came to pass abruptly behind the scenes. Just the fact that it didn't take place before spring practice, tells us something.

I don't know if Bob's heart really has changed enough to step down. Maybe there are just concerns. But if that were the case, I believe they'd have told us. They told us the opposite.

This sounds very much like the Board of Regents sticking its nose into football operations, and Bob telling them to stick it.

The clincher for me wasn't what I heard at the two announcements. It's what I saw, even if we turn down the sound. I saw the countenance of Joe Castiglione. I've never seen Joe C look like that, publicly. There was no smile. None of his trademark cheeriness.

I don't believe that Bob wanted to go, but I think he damn sure doesn't want some businessman with political clout in the board that runs the university, telling him how to run the football program. One can make the case that we all have a boss, for accountability. But the best bosses put great people in place and let them do the job they were hired to do. And if anybody has earned that freedom, even if you despise half of OUr defensive staff, Bob Stoops has earned it. Not a guy with political clout has the authority to give ultimatums. And Bob Stoops has earned the right to tell the guy to shove it.

I believe both happened. So with Drake and Isaac about to play their final seasons of high school football, the timing for Bob was just right.
 
hahaha, yeah, the BOR told Bob to fire his brother. LOL. Thats why I stopped reading the OP after the 2nd paragraph of drivel.
 
I will say this. This is the day that everyone should have known was coming someday. Bob Stoops was never bigger than the program. The program was always going to keep going after Bob decided to hang it up. Yesterday was certainly out of the blue. But hey, OU football will continue.
Agree.....and some of us seem to be over analyzing Stoops' retirement.
More than any other reason, I believe strongly that Stoops may have planned to exit after this season, but when so much speculation surfaced about this, other schools were using this to recruit kids away from OU. Stoops likely felt the best thing he....and OU...could do would be to retire early and leave the program to the best new coach possible in Riley. In a way, I think Stoops "took one for the team" by jumping off a season in advance.
 
I do find it very hard to believe that this was "planned" for sometime. Nobody quits, retires or walks away in June. Something happened and it could very well be, one or more of the reason posted.



It's simple, the doctors told him, his back and heart could not stand carry his brother any longero_O:cool::mad:;)
 
I do find it very hard to believe that this was "planned" for sometime. Nobody quits, retires or walks away in June. Something happened and it could very well be, one or more of the reason posted.



It's simple, the doctors told him, his back and heart could not stand carry his brother any longero_O:cool::mad:;)
No one knows how long that "sometime" was.
All I'm saying is that Stoops saw certain things cropping up.....one of which was how rival recruiters were swaying recruits away from OU for what had to be about the time he had (or didn't have) remaining as coach.
And I do believe his health was also a factor. But that won't be confirmed until or if he stays retired.
 
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Here is the story. Back six or seven months ago, Bob Stoops come up with a plan for his exit as OU's head coach. Part of the reason was the reality that Lincoln Riley was getting very hot as a candidate for a head coaching job. Bob, was driven to come up with an exit plan as he believed that the person to succeed him was already at OU, Lincoln Riley. I think initially he was thinking that following the 2017 season he would step down and Riley would succeed him. Don't know why he decided to step down this week, but he did. There is nothing else going on except for Bob wanting to turn his job over to a coach who he thought could continue and build on the success he enjoyed over the past 18 years. It is possible that a health issue, such as heart health, caused him to do it now rather than later.
 
hahaha, yeah, the BOR told Bob to fire his brother. LOL. Thats why I stopped reading the OP after the 2nd paragraph of drivel.
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I didn't invent that. There are multiple guys with pretty reliable sources saying that Bob dug his heals in when asked to send Mike packing, and also that he was disappointed when the BOR rejected the idea of Spurrier Jr being the additional new coach. Bob could see the losing of just a little bit of autonomy.
 
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I didn't invent that. There are multiple guys with pretty reliable sources saying that Bob dug his heals in when asked to send Mike packing, and also that he was disappointed when the BOR rejected the idea of Spurrier Jr being the additional new coach. Bob could see the losing of just a little bit of autonomy.

I don't believe any of these conspiracy theories why Bob is leaving;

Bob left at a great. time with the program in great shape and with a perfect replacement

Case closed.
 
I don't believe any of these conspiracy theories why Bob is leaving;

Bob left at a great. time with the program in great shape and with a perfect replacement

Case closed.
Agree, but I also believe Stoops decided to move his retirement up now instead of after the coming season with recruiting as an important factor. Again, I think somehow the word got out that 2017 was going to be Stoops' last and rival teams were using this to lure kids away from OU. Now I truly expect OU's recruiting to really get up and running.
 
Lots of " He said she said"sources out there but in the end Im not sure any of us fans will ever know the truth.

I would think if it was a case of Stoops bucking up over his brother media outlets would have already been over that and reporting it. Most sports writers ( although most are hacks ) usually have some inside sources.

Time will tell the story though
 
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