JALEN Hurts is a second string Quarteback at best , Nick Saben figures that out and I’m surprised that Lincoln Reilly can’t see that. He misses open receivers on almost every play and when he does hit his receivers , the ball ins always out of position so the receivers have to make miraculous catches . He is a great athlete , he’s just not a great quarterback .
Impeach Jalen Hurts !!!
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Thanks for your well thought out post, Budman. The bong is waiting for a mini make out session with your funky breath.
Txsux is Budman, all. He's playing two sides to the wind. What a piece of trash
Ok.
Don't care. Budman and txsux are both trash. You're mistaking me for someone that cares who a dork is.
Don't care. Budman and txsux are both trash. You're mistaking me for someone that cares who a dork is.
You got caught. You're a moron. Move on to another board, trash.
You got Sams and Toms man sauce dripping from your chin. Better get back to sucking. But you’re back.
Yessss. The lazy cover. Bong head went to acting grown up to cover his fake ass. Who you going to be on the next post? Txsux, budb***ch, or Debbie does?
Nope, just in the waste of contributing. Move on to another board. I got you being an idiot. Own it and work on your life somewhere else.
What? Are you so smoked out that you're not even following the board?
You're a disabled goddamn idiot. You just restated the feeling of the entire board. Go to bed, dude.
Leading the nation in passing efficiency. Went 30-42 on Sat. without CeeDee. Yeah, the guy can't throw worth a damn.
Sometimes the cockroaches come out while the light is still on.
Yeah. And he got his A LOT. He never backed down. He never tip toed a run, until he wisely slid. He stood in the pocket and took hits all night to deliver yard gaining passes.
And one of his incompletions was a brilliant play, that saved the winning field goal drive by getting a ball to the line of scrimmage after a sideways snap went more than 15 yards behind the los. Not all incompletions are equal.
The problem is that the guy is not Baker Mayfield nor Kyler Murray. He has his moments running but he is not a great passer and if under pressure makes stupid mistakes. He's a fumble machine that you constantly have to worry about but at the same time he makes awesome plays that just make you want to take back everything bad you think about him. I'm sure it's being addressed.
He is a transitional QB that is way too apt at turning the ball over and is lucky to have not cost us more games than we've lost. It's not skill but luck that we've not lost more than we have even in the most awesome comeback that has ever happened here. I'm not minimizing his contribution as much as I am celebrating the luck that we've had thus far. I think he may agree if he looks at film.
I think that Hurts is a very average QB with an above average Line that when it fails to protect him...he is extremely prone to mistakes and bad decisions which are forced upon him in the heat of the moment. He does not protect the ball particularly well and that leads to the myriad of fumbles he's had so far this season which is very lucky that haven't caused us to lose a game so far. Again, I'm sure this is not something he doesn't already know.
The defense has been at times over achievers and under achievers. They are very jackal and hyde. It's hard to say how much they've really played a part in the under achievement in so far as the last couple of games is concerned because they've bailed us out of bad situations on occasion and caused other bad situations on others.
In the end it comes down to heart. So far this team has the heart it takes to win tight games but they are not in the big time yet. I think that Jalen has the "want to" but just not the moxie to pull out a natty. And that's ok. Win the B12 and let's just see where we go from here. Maybe we do have the Sooner Magic that can pull this off.
One game at a time, one win at a time and one day at a time. So far, so good. Just keep your head up and let's keep plugging along. Whatever happens, happens. What ever does not isn't meant to be.
Over all, I'm proud of this teams fight. They've pulled out two big games at the end. Let's keep fighting.
He is a transitional QB that is way too apt at turning the ball over and is lucky to have not cost us more games than we've lost. It's not skill but luck that we've not lost more than we have even in the most awesome comeback that has ever happened here. I'm not minimizing his contribution as much as I am celebrating the luck that we've had thus far. I think he may agree if he looks at film.
I think that Hurts is a very average QB with an above average Line that when it fails to protect him...he is extremely prone to mistakes and bad decisions which are forced upon him in the heat of the moment. He does not protect the ball particularly well and that leads to the myriad of fumbles he's had so far this season which is very lucky that haven't caused us to lose a game so far. Again, I'm sure this is not something he doesn't already know.
The defense has been at times over achievers and under achievers. They are very jackal and hyde. It's hard to say how much they've really played a part in the under achievement in so far as the last couple of games is concerned because they've bailed us out of bad situations on occasion and caused other bad situations on others.
In the end it comes down to heart. So far this team has the heart it takes to win tight games but they are not in the big time yet. I think that Jalen has the "want to" but just not the moxie to pull out a natty. And that's ok. Win the B12 and let's just see where we go from here. Maybe we do have the Sooner Magic that can pull this off.
One game at a time, one win at a time and one day at a time. So far, so good. Just keep your head up and let's keep plugging along. Whatever happens, happens. What ever does not isn't meant to be.
Over all, I'm proud of this teams fight. They've pulled out two big games at the end. Let's keep fighting.
OU cannot win without Hurts regardless of his issues.....and he is the best and only hope OU has for this 2019 season.
The 10-1 record does not happen without him.
The 10-1 record does not happen without him.
Hurts is not Baker, Murray was not Baker, Jones was not Bradford etc etc. Each one was their own. Hell even Jalen has said he is not Baker or Murray, he said he is Jalen. I don't know why people keep comparing the 3? Baker and Murray had more time under Riley and this so called Genius Offense so its not all Jalens fault we are struggling on both sides of the ball. Take his transfer out and this crappy team has lost more than one game, likely 3 at this point with no chance at a Big 12, 11, 10 title. Good grief do some of you not see that? Last time I checked Baker and Kyler as good as they were did not win a Natty either and why was that? DEFENSE.
That seems to be the problem with OU of lately, we seem to pin our success on Big 12,11,10 titles and Heisman Trophies instead of the big prize, National Titles. Last one was almost 20 yrs ago. Jalen is not the reason we won't win one this year but is probably the only reason we still have a chance at one.
You may say Rattler this, Rattler that but what has he done or would have done this year? Riley knew and Riley knows. NADA.
Why do you think Hurts is at OU?
Sorry to burst bubbles here but Jalen did not bring the rest of Bama's team with him, we are still who we were last season. What has changed? We had a lot of close calls last season and crappy play so what has changed other than the name of the QB?
NADA.
Hurts is our best chance this year at anything, Riley knew but that does not mean a guarantee of anything just our best chance at something. Cut the guy some slack, we suck at so many other facets that its idiotic to lay the blame on him for our yearly suckage in other areas. We are not Bama nor are we Clemson, we are a long way from being at that level and have been before Jalen set foot on Campus.
That seems to be the problem with OU of lately, we seem to pin our success on Big 12,11,10 titles and Heisman Trophies instead of the big prize, National Titles. Last one was almost 20 yrs ago. Jalen is not the reason we won't win one this year but is probably the only reason we still have a chance at one.
You may say Rattler this, Rattler that but what has he done or would have done this year? Riley knew and Riley knows. NADA.
Why do you think Hurts is at OU?
Sorry to burst bubbles here but Jalen did not bring the rest of Bama's team with him, we are still who we were last season. What has changed? We had a lot of close calls last season and crappy play so what has changed other than the name of the QB?
NADA.
Hurts is our best chance this year at anything, Riley knew but that does not mean a guarantee of anything just our best chance at something. Cut the guy some slack, we suck at so many other facets that its idiotic to lay the blame on him for our yearly suckage in other areas. We are not Bama nor are we Clemson, we are a long way from being at that level and have been before Jalen set foot on Campus.
More than anything else, I believe Hurts allowed OU to "kick the can down the road" in its development of Rattler and Mordecai and this will be reflected in the seasons ahead.
Best line I have read here in any Hurts' discussion is OUSOONER67's "Jalen is not the reason we won't win one (a national championship), but he is probably the only reason we still have a chance at one". Nuff said.
Winning ugly is OU's motto this year.
Best line I have read here in any Hurts' discussion is OUSOONER67's "Jalen is not the reason we won't win one (a national championship), but he is probably the only reason we still have a chance at one". Nuff said.
Winning ugly is OU's motto this year.
Even Switzer and Stoops (Wilkinson too ?) won Ugly occasionally too. I still think LR needs more 'brilliant' help, whether it's a mentor or a young genius helping him
Every team in every sport gets ugly wins from time to time.
Well no one can say you don’t have any fire and thats why I like your post but certainly don’t agree with everything you said. I honestly think you along with CT ( this is not normal as I usually agree with both of you on most things) and maybe others give JH to much credit for our current record.
we really don’t know where we would be with either Mordercai or Rattler considering they would have had 3 early games to fine tune there games before hitting the conference slate. If they are both as good as advertised that could have been enough games for them to get comfortable in the QB position. Early on the defense was good enough for us to be still undefeated heading into KSU.
With Hurts we are a stone throw away from being a 3 loss team even with him at the helm and over the last 2 games we have seen this offense stall out for at least half the games. Is that Rileys fault in play calling or is it Hurts fault for making mistakes that we just don’t know if the other two would have made those same mistakes. We can speculate but thats all it is in the end nothing but guess work.
We are fans and everyone of us are guilty of letting our emotions play a roll in how we respond during games and at times its directed at Riley, Grinch , Hurts, the defense, young players making critical mistakes or just whoever we deem to blame. It doesn’t mean we don’t support them but at times they deserve the criticism and other times the praise. Hurts has received it from both sides just as Riley and others have. Its just a part of us all in being fans and no fan is immune from it.
Hey if all agreed with one another the board would be very boring.
I know we don't know what it would be like if Rattler took over this season from day one but I truly believe Riley knew he wasn't ready just yet. Like CT said, this season gives him more time to learn the system and be ready to go next year.
Perhaps this team is close to putting it all together, we have seen flashes here and there so we know they can do it but can they do it consistently for a whole game? Time is ticking and if they are going to put it together they need to start next week.
Maybe we are just one of those teams that plays close games and has to find ways to win. Certainly seems that way of late.
A win is a win is a win as they say.
Even with his numerous and obvious warts, Hurts is this team's MVP. I'm grateful that he came to OU because, without him, we're probably looking at three or four losses.
That said, our offense is limited when he's at the helm. Unlike White, Bradford, Mayfield, and Murray, Jalen cannot throw a consistently accurate deep ball. Of course, that problem is compounded by that fact that he has only one proven deep threat on the team--Lamb. The other guys had more than one receiver who could take the top off a defense. None of our highly touted new guys has shown the home run ability of a Hollywood Brown or Dede Westbrook. I don't know if they lack it or if it's rendered irrelevant by Hurts' scattergun arm.
The simple fact of the matter is that next year's starting QB will be hard-pressed to produce the results that Hurts has given us.
That said, our offense is limited when he's at the helm. Unlike White, Bradford, Mayfield, and Murray, Jalen cannot throw a consistently accurate deep ball. Of course, that problem is compounded by that fact that he has only one proven deep threat on the team--Lamb. The other guys had more than one receiver who could take the top off a defense. None of our highly touted new guys has shown the home run ability of a Hollywood Brown or Dede Westbrook. I don't know if they lack it or if it's rendered irrelevant by Hurts' scattergun arm.
The simple fact of the matter is that next year's starting QB will be hard-pressed to produce the results that Hurts has given us.
I don't regard Hurts as great, but it's safe to say he's allowed OU to be where it is now, even with his flaws. He's been the best option Riley could have had with Mordecai and Rattler being so young and unproven.
Hurts has also been good enough to carry OU's offense while Grinch is trying to rebuild the defense which I see a a monumental task.
Rattler has played in at least three games this year while protecting his redshirt status and this will pay off big time down the road....again, thanks to Hurts being on the roster.
Hurts has also been good enough to carry OU's offense while Grinch is trying to rebuild the defense which I see a a monumental task.
Rattler has played in at least three games this year while protecting his redshirt status and this will pay off big time down the road....again, thanks to Hurts being on the roster.
OU football: Jalen Hurts becomes third quarterback with 3,000 pass yards, 1,000 rushing yards in first 11 games of season
http://www.oudaily.com/sports/ou-fo...cle_ca2390d6-0e5b-11ea-8703-4f9a19c06f30.html
http://www.oudaily.com/sports/ou-fo...cle_ca2390d6-0e5b-11ea-8703-4f9a19c06f30.html
