I wish the ACC would invite Oklahoma

[pandarod]

The ACC has 15 permanent members, and has an affiliation with Notre Dame through 2039. Rather than wait for the Irish, I think adding Oklahoma as the 16th and final all sports member makes a lot of sense. Many seem to think that Texas and the ACC have been holding secret talks, but my feeling is if they leave for another conference that it would be the Big 10. Oklahoma seems to be playing and voting in the shadow of Texas, but in the ACC Oklahoma would be able to immediately have a voice in all conference affairs. Our teams always have a solid road to the National championship game, and a nice footprint up and down the East coast. I know it may be a pipe dream, but Oklahoma deserves better than the way it is treated by the Big 12, and if you were slotted into the ACC Coastal division, you would have a competitive, but clear road to the ACC championship game with the level of talent you bring. Add to that the increased revenue, stability, and competitiveness of the other sports, and I think you guys would really shine. Anyway, that is how I feel, and was curious to know what your fans thought about playing in the ACC. Best of luck this year.

Panda

 

[Section22Sooner]

Oklahoma seems to be playing and voting in the shadow of Texas, but in the ACC Oklahoma would be able to immediately have a voice in all conference affairs.

Playing in the shadow of Texas? You don't get around much - do you!?! You guys can have Texas.

Oklahoma already shines.

Thanks for posting your thoughts.

 

[CTOkie]

Playing in the shadow of Texas? You don't get around much - do you!?! You guys can have Texas.

Oklahoma already shines.

Thanks for posting your thoughts.

The Big 12 plays in the shadows of Texas which has much to do with It being the 4th best conference behind the SEC, Pac12, Big 10.

 

[LongTimeSooner]

Oklahoma has a long history of regional rivalries. Most CFB programs are happy with 1 rival. OU has 3 or 4 regional ones. Giving that up for the ACC is flat out not worth it.

Also, screw Texas. They cast a huge shadow, but they continually fail to live up to it. They are big with big TV markets which is why they have clout. Otherwise they are just a bunch of mediocre underachievers in love with themselves.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

Oklahoma has a long history of regional rivalries. Most CFB programs are happy with 1 rival. OU has 3 or 4 regional ones. Giving that up for the ACC is flat out not worth it.

Also, screw Texas. They cast a huge shadow, but they continually fail to live up to it. They are big with big TV markets which is why they have clout. Otherwise they are just a bunch of mediocre underachievers in love with themselves.

Oh my, that's so the truth.

 

[CTOkie]

Oklahoma has a long history of regional rivalries. Most CFB programs are happy with 1 rival. OU has 3 or 4 regional ones. Giving that up for the ACC is flat out not worth it.

Also, screw Texas. They cast a huge shadow, but they continually fail to live up to it. They are big with big TV markets which is why they have clout. Otherwise they are just a bunch of mediocre underachievers in love with themselves.

It would be nice if OU could beat these "mediocre underachievers" more often.....in case you missed the last three games, two of which were Texas wins and one was a very close game.

 

[Section22Sooner]

It would be nice if OU could beat these "mediocre underachievers" more often.....in case you missed the last three games, two of which were Texas wins and one was a very close game.

2015 Big 12 Conference Champions and Final Four of the CFB playoffs.
Texas and the "underachievers" would love to be in our shoes.

 

[roygbell]

OU to the ACC is a non-starter. No way that happens. The travel would be horrible. The SEC is a better fit for OU than is the ACC and I don't want OU to be a part of the SEC. We could find a way to make the Pac 12 the Pac 16 and that could work.

 

[CTOkie]

2015 Big 12 Conference Champions and Final Four of the CFB playoffs.
Texas and the "underachievers" would love to be in our shoes.

True.....but losing 2 of 3 against mediocre Texas teams is what it is: inexcusable.
In 2015, OU 's trip to the Final Four was facilitated greatly by Baylor, TCU and OSU playing without their starting quarterbacks. Clemson had its starting QB.

 

[Mister Moses]

CT, that's the same think the Orangeblood crybabies claim. Seems like Baker Mayfield was hurt for the second half of the TCU game. Remember the score when he was hurt. The 2nd team Baylor QB was better than anything Texas has had in a while. OSU who cares they are losers. The recruiting out of Texas is great this year. Charlie jacked those young guys up so high they looked like a high school team. I remember Barry Switzer stated you can't jack them up for all 11 games. I guess we'll be alright. My 45 years in Austin I got over that game affecting my ego. I know the players get over it faster than the fans.

 

[CTOkie]

CT, that's the same think the Orangeblood crybabies claim. Seems like Baker Mayfield was hurt for the second half of the TCU game. Remember the score when he was hurt. The 2nd team Baylor QB was better than anything Texas has had in a while. OSU who cares they are losers. The recruiting out of Texas is great this year. Charlie jacked those young guys up so high they looked like a high school team. I remember Barry Switzer stated you can't jack them up for all 11 games. I guess we'll be alright. My 45 years in Austin I got over that game affecting my ego. I know the players get over it faster than the fans.

I know all that. Had Boykin played against OU....and especially with Mayfield's head injury that kept him out of the second half....TCU would not have trailed by 23-7 in the first half and would have been too much for a Mayfield-less OU team in the second half. The first half score had a lot to do with TCU playing without Boykin, a Heisman candidate.
This is getting away from my initial point and that is that before we throw Texas under the bus on a message board, let's start doing so on the playing field. Losing two games to Texas in 2013 and 2015 was like drowning in three inches of water.

 

[LongTimeSooner]

First, conference alignment affects more than just CFB. Texas habitually underachieves in all sports, not only football.

Second, In 2014-2015 Texas spent $173 million dollars, more than any other school in the world, to do essentially nothing. No NCAA MBB Final Four, No National Championships even in minor sports, and the football team did not even make a bowl game.

If we're measuring Texas only by how often then beat OU in football, then we're marginalizing a huge chunk of the clout they claim, and we're still only talking about a 33% head-to-head winning record for the horns since 2010.

Screw Texas.

 

[LongTimeSooner]

holy crap, I was wrong. The Longhorns did indeed win a national championship last year: Men's Swimming & Diving!

In other news, there is a NCAA National Championship given for Swimming & Diving.

 

[NolemaninVA]

Panda, all the respect to the Sooners and other teams in the Southwest, but an invite to the ACC is absolutely STUPID, like putting the Aggies in the SEC! I mean, the conferences were set up to be "Regional" not cross-country! You just need to fix/re-organize the conferences you have in the Southwest and West.

 

[sybarite43]

It has been about nine or ten years since I suggested that OU join either the Big East, a basketball power at the time with some emerging football teams, or the ACC. Since that time, the ACC has expanded from Florida to Boston, as well as to the west. Will the ACC or Big East be one that survives? I don't know. But, the Big Twelve is not.

As far as long-term rivalries being disrupted, that doesn't fly. Other than Texas, our longest standing rivalries have been against Nebraska, Kansas, and Missouri. We had more honorable competition against Nebraska. Where are those now. Almost a hundred years of playing Nebraska and Missouri were displaced in their escape of Texas.

If we get an invite to any other conference, I would take it. I'm fine with the ACC, Big Ten, Pac Twelve, or SEC (although the latter would cause me to require tablets for nausea every morning). I don't see this round as being the "final" round of expansion. I do expect four super-conferences, and I don't expect any to include Iowa State, Baylor, or TCU, probably not K-State. And, I would much rather see games in Boston and Miami as opposed to Lubbock and Ames.

 

[owenfieldreams]

in my humble opinion there are only three logical landing spots for OU. You can debate the order of preference but nothing else proposed gets the job done. The landing spots are the SEC West, the Big 10 West, or a newly configured PAC 12 East. I'd call the first two 1 & 1A with the PAC 12 a distant 3rd.

 

[CTOkie]

A move to the Big 10 would be nice for me.....and yes, I do realize it's not likely...and my only concern would be how it would impact recruiting in Texas, which negates any entry into the Big 10 unless Texas were to come as well.
I could see OU play at Rutgers fairly often, Nebraska would be back on OU's schedule and games with Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin and Iowa would be nice. It would also put OU in the Chicago, NYC and Washington DC markets.....all in the eastern and central time zones.

 

[sybarite43]

A move to the Big 10 would be nice for me.....and yes, I do realize it's not likely...and my only concern would be how it would impact recruiting in Texas, which negates any entry into the Big 10 unless Texas were to come as well.
I could see OU play at Rutgers fairly often, Nebraska would be back on OU's schedule and games with Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin and Iowa would be nice. It would also put OU in the Chicago, NYC and Washington DC markets.....all in the eastern and central time zones.

OU wasn't in the same conference with Texas from 1915 to 1995, and we recruited Texas just fine.

 

[CTOkie]

OU wasn't in the same conference with Texas from 1915 to 1995, and we recruited Texas just fine.

OU and Texas have been playing each other since 1900. It's playing Texas every year that matters regardless of who's in what conference. OU would have to maintain its Texas rivalry if it migrated to another conference without Texas.

 

[pandarod]

http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...or-the-big-ten-sec-to-poach-the-big-12-again/

Thought you all might be intrigued by this link. The ACC only needs 1 team to become the first super-conference. I would hate to be one of the last schools waiting for an invite when the music stops. (Just ask West Virginia how that felt before the Big 12 threw them a lifeline)

Panda

 

[BillyRay]

This is getting away from my initial point and that is that before we throw Texas under the bus on a message board, let's start doing so on the playing field. Losing two games to Texas in 2013 and 2015 was like drowning in three inches of water.

I'm right there with ya CT!!! 2014 wasn't exactly a display of Sooner excellence either in the RRR.

 

[Section22Sooner]

I would hate to be one of the last schools waiting for an invite when the music stops.

Oooh, I'm frightened now. What the hell is this supposed to mean? This is the sort of BS that makes message boards look so stupid.

 

[K2C Sooner]

Wow! This thread just made the front page of my Yahoo page. National news and look for the viewership count skyrocket.

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Rather than wait for the Irish, I think adding Oklahoma as the 16th and final all sports member makes a lot of sense. Many seem to think that Texas and the ACC have been holding secret talks, but my feeling is if they leave for another conference that it would be the Big 10. Oklahoma seems to be playing and voting in the shadow of Texas, but in the ACC Oklahoma would be able to immediately have a voice in all conference affairs. ...
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[JConXtsy]

Oooh, I'm frightened now. What the hell is this supposed to mean? This is the sort of BS that makes message boards look so stupid.

I don't think he means not being invited to the ACC. I think/hope he means that if the NCAA ever breaks up into 4/5 super conferences, it could be bad news for those left on the sidelines.

 

[pandarod]

I don't think he means not being invited to the ACC. I think/hope he means that if the NCAA ever breaks up into 4/5 super conferences, it could be bad news for those left on the sidelines.

That was the point I was trying to make with the 4 super-conferences model. Even if the Big 12 imploded, Oklahoma would find a home quickly, but I doubt the same could be said for Iowa State or some of the smaller schools. For smaller schools, conference realignment has to be torture.

Panda

 

[OUcharlie]

Best choices:
1- SEC West,
2- B1G West,
3- PAC 12 West,
4- ACC Coastal
Anyway is better than staying with BIG XII Texas Lovers; don't like the SEC but is the best Conference.
As ugly as the SEC looks (better with 16 teams) but its obviously the better way to go.
It could be a 14 games season or a maximum 16 games season as follows: 7 division games + 3 SEC East games + Texas game annually + Top rated team + Div I or Div II team game + Conference Championship + CFB Playoff or Bowl + National Championship.

 

[R1950]

I see Oklahoma in the BIG before Texas - possibly in the West with Nebraska. There's no way in hell the BIG will grant UT any special favors or cave in to their selfish demands. Likewise with the SEC. That's one of the reasons that Notre Dame has never been a member of the BIG. That conference is way too profitable and strong to even think of putting up with UT's crap.

 

[michaelwalkerbr]

Read the GOR. No one is leaving a power 5 conference for nine years.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

in my humble opinion there are only three logical landing spots for OU. You can debate the order of preference but nothing else proposed gets the job done. The landing spots are the SEC West, the Big 10 West, or a newly configured PAC 12 East. I'd call the first two 1 & 1A with the PAC 12 a distant 3rd.

A move to the Big 10 would absolutely kill recruiting in Texas. I think many confuse the difference between Texas, the state, & Texas, the underacheivers. OU has always recruited Texas and done so very well. Leaving for any conference that does not play games in Texas would be foolish and place a sharp knife at the throats of the football program.

 

[CTOkie]

A move to the Big 10 would absolutely kill recruiting in Texas. I think many confuse the difference between Texas, the state, & Texas, the underacheivers. OU has always recruited Texas and done so very well. Leaving for any conference that does not play games in Texas would be foolish and place a sharp knife at the throats of the football program.

WNAS, do you believe OU maintaining its rivalry with Texas if it went to the Big 10 would be a recruiting killer ?
What if OU, as a member of the Big 10, played Texas annually....that way, OU would play 9 Big ten teams....plus Texas, plus another Texas team (among TCU, Tech, Baylor, Houston, Texas A&M)....plus an at-large team from anywhere in the nation. That's 12 games.

Edit....upon further review, OU isn't going anywhere without Texas and possibly Oklahoma State. So my scenario is really a pipe dream.

 

[sybarite43]

Haven't we seen that A&M enhanced recruiting when they were able to tell their recruits that they would be able to travel out of the area or state to play? Do kids want to play only in Texas? I suspect that if we were to go to the Big Ten or Pac Twelve, the recruiting in Texas would improve. They might get to visit LA or San Francisco as opposed to Ames or Lubbock. If I were a recruit, I think I would much rather go to Miami or Boston than to Manhattan, Kansas

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

WNAS, do you believe OU maintaining its rivalry with Texas if it went to the Big 10 would be a recruiting killer ?
What if OU, as a member of the Big 10, played Texas annually....that way, OU would play 9 Big ten teams....plus Texas, plus another Texas team (among TCU, Tech, Baylor, Houston, Texas A&M)....plus an at-large team from anywhere in the nation. That's 12 games.

Edit....upon further review, OU isn't going anywhere without Texas and possibly Oklahoma State. So my scenario is really a pipe dream.

IMO, they would not only need to maintain the OU/TX rivalry but also play games geographically in or very near Texas. A&M, geographically was a great fit. As CS is located in SOUTHEAST Texas. Oklahoma isn't. If OU joined the SEC & kept the OU/TX game, that would be two games played in Texas every other year. This may work.

 

[WhyNotaSooner]

Haven't we seen that A&M enhanced recruiting when they were able to tell their recruits that they would be able to travel out of the area or state to play? Do kids want to play only in Texas? I suspect that if we were to go to the Big Ten or Pac Twelve, the recruiting in Texas would improve. They might get to visit LA or San Francisco as opposed to Ames or Lubbock. If I were a recruit, I think I would much rather go to Miami or Boston than to Manhattan, Kansas

But A&M also plays home games in Texas in front of family, friends, etc. This is very important.

 

[sybarite43]

Dallas to Austin 196
Dallas to College Station 160
Dallas to Norman 190

Amarillo to Austin 496
Amarillo to Norman 278
Tyler to Norman 285
Tyler to Austin 229

The family can't drive six fewer miles to Norman than Austin?

 

[owenfieldreams]

If my memory serves me right OU projects 8 starters on offense from outside both OK & TX and only three on D are from the Houston area. We are basically in the DFW M.C.A. so we will still recruit north Texas well regardless but in fact we recruit nationally now and internationally if you count Canada. I think when it's all said and done we are tied at the hip with Texas and we will go together where ever we end up.