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Sorry for he pun, but I decided to go with that instead of the "assumes room temp" in the subject line.

Eagles Founder, frontman and songwriter, Glenn Frey died at 67 today. An article said he died of complications from rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis and pneumonia. Sounds pretty awful. I certainly hope he's at peace and he'll be in my prayers tonight.

Although I never saw them live, I considered myself slightly more than a casual fan and the "country-rock California sound" they rolled out in the early 70's had a huge impact on American music that is still heard today in many of the newer bands.

RIP Glenn. You were just like James Dean... Too fast to live, too young to die, bye-bye!
 
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Schoonerman said:
Sorry for he pun, but I decided to go with that instead of the "assumes room temp" in the subject line.

Eagles Founder, frontman and songwriter, Glenn Frey died at 67 today. An article said he died of complications from rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis and pneumonia. Sounds pretty awful. I certainly hope he's at peace and he'll be in my prayers tonight.

Although I never saw them live, I considered myself slightly more than a casual fan and the "country-rock California sound" they rolled out in the early 70's had a huge impact on American music that is still heard today in many of the newer bands.

RIP Glenn. You were just like James Dean... Too fast to live, too young to die, bye-bye!
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Yep, he was a pioneer man at his particular craft.
Ironically, I was hacking out the hook line of 'Disco Strangler' on Strat just the other night. (luv that riff)

Yes, and hauntingly these guys are dropping like flies.
Old Glenn there only had two years on me.

Yikes!:(
 
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The dude put together some great sound and wrote some sweet lyrics. Good times. RIP
 
Rest in peace Glenn Frey.

I got to see him and Joe Walsh in Dallas before the Eagles got back together. They were amazing together, doing a lot of Eagles stuff with each one doing an hour or so of their solo work as well. After three hours of music, there was still a lot that they hadn't covered...
 
PtLavacaSooner said:
Rest in peace Glenn Frey.

I got to see him and Joe Walsh in Dallas before the Eagles got back together. They were amazing together, doing a lot of Eagles stuff with each one doing an hour or so of their solo work as well. After three hours of music, there was still a lot that they hadn't covered...
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Mmm nice.
I'm thinking Walsh did a bit on his 'talk box' effect that he and Frampton utilized very well.

I never did go in for a lot of effects for guitar, other than reverb and chorus. They were abused a lot to mask a damn bad guitarist, however the talk box worked for me in an occasional tune.

That, and a couple of mics of acid...:eek:
 
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Not sure but thinking it was '77 I had tickets to the Eagles at the Tulsa Assembly Center. Joe Walsh joined them on tour before they played Tulsa. They did an hour of Joe Walsh hits, and hour of Eagles hits, and then their new album, Hotel California in its entirety. One of the best concerts I've seen. The ticket price, was $8.50.
 
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SoonerTulsan said:
Not sure but thinking it was '77 I had tickets to the Eagles at the Tulsa Assembly Center. Joe Walsh joined them on tour before they played Tulsa. They did an hour of Joe Walsh hits, and hour of Eagles hits, and then their new album, Hotel California in its entirety. One of the best concerts I've seen. The ticket price, was $8.50.
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Very good memory ST.

What the hell happened?

Sometime during the freakin' 80s rock 'cert tics went from 8 or 10 bucks to 80 or 90.
I remember telling a bud it would be OK if my wages had inflated that much...to 74 bucks per hour.:eek:

(you know, San Francisco metro bus driver wages at the time)
 
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Soonersincefitty said:
Very good memory ST.

What the hell happened?

Sometime during the freakin' 80s rock 'cert tics went from 8 or 10 bucks to 80 or 90.
I remember telling a bud it would be OK if my wages had inflated that much...to 74 bucks per hour.:eek:

(you know, San Francisco metro bus driver wages at the time)
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That memory is why I couldn't justify paying $150 to see them play at the BOK. Having said that, I'd have paid 3 times that to see McCartney and still felt it was worth it. Many, many great shows in the 70's in Tulsa. Todd Rundgren and Utopia at the Old Lady on Brady doing "Ra" was my all-time #1 prior to McCartney. And that's saying a lot.
 
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If it was 77 and I missed it I must have been in the hospital or in between jobs: that's one show I wish I would have not missed...
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Don't feel bad. I was sick and missed a chance to see Montrose at the Cains with their opening act in '79. Opening act was a new band called Van Halen. Loved Montrose and Sammy Hagar, but Eddie turned out to be pretty good too. OUch.
 
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Don't feel bad. I was sick and missed a chance to see Montrose at the Cains with their opening act in '79. Opening act was a new band called Van Halen. Loved Montrose and Sammy Hagar, but Eddie turned out to be pretty good too. OUch.
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Damn it all, must have been when I was doing 2 to 5 for unlawful carnal knowledge with a....really ugly librarian...just kidding. :rolleyes:

I did miss that one though...and it still stings.
 
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Don't feel bad. I was sick and missed a chance to see Montrose at the Cains with their opening act in '79. Opening act was a new band called Van Halen. Loved Montrose and Sammy Hagar, but Eddie turned out to be pretty good too. OUch.
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I was there at a table with OUtrageOUs Bob in the front row with a bottle of John Daniels... GREAT Show
 
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Cool story. Visited Sun Studios and Graceland a year ago, both for the first time. A lot of timeless music originated in the South.
 
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Cool story. Visited Sun Studios and Graceland a year ago, both for the first time. A lot of timeless music originated in the South.
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Yep, went there too.

The epicenter of a lot of cool stuff that still resonates to this day.
Awesome.

A clue for you all.
Do NOT do anything in irreverence to Elvis while in Graceland. OMG!

My little brother and I were going through the 'hall' that had all the outfits he wore. I made a crack about how gauche and pretentious they were with a little giggle on the side.
Those 'true' Elvis fans wanted to actually hang us from the nearest tree outside!
They were really pissed.

Just a heads up. :eek:
 
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Schoonerman said:
Sorry for he pun, but I decided to go with that instead of the "assumes room temp" in the subject line.

Eagles Founder, frontman and songwriter, Glenn Frey died at 67 today. An article said he died of complications from rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis and pneumonia. Sounds pretty awful. I certainly hope he's at peace and he'll be in my prayers tonight.

Although I never saw them live, I considered myself slightly more than a casual fan and the "country-rock California sound" they rolled out in the early 70's had a huge impact on American music that is still heard today in many of the newer bands.

RIP Glenn. You were just like James Dean... Too fast to live, too young to die, bye-bye!
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My opinion is that The Eagles were the best, most talented rock band ever....by far.
 
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Don't feel bad. I was sick and missed a chance to see Montrose at the Cains with their opening act in '79. Opening act was a new band called Van Halen. Loved Montrose and Sammy Hagar, but Eddie turned out to be pretty good too. OUch.
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Intersting. I wish Eddie could still play. Sammy has three different bands, and all have better guitarists at this point.

Eddie is one of the 5 greatest rock guitarist of all time, yet couldn't crack the top 100 currently. It is sad...
 
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I remember attending a private party, actually it was the Grand Opening of the Hard Rock Cafe in Houston. Only about a 1000 people or in attendance by invitation only. I scored an invite via donating the use of a couple of motorhomes for the band. Anyway, I was able to meet Joe Walsh for a minute or so. He was kind, asked a couple of questions etc. I then returned to our table and told the wife that he was pretty messed up. Sure enough, he came out and literally did not and could not finish song one. He was toast and they carried him off the stage. Having said this, I'm glad he survived and cleaned up.

I agree with CT. The Eagles were IMO, the most talented musicians to form a band. Each in their own right could and did carry themselves. All of them wrote their own songs/lyrics & music. They were also sharp as hell biz wise which set them apart from the many.
 
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Very much so. You think Rush > Eagles ?
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Absolutely. Don Henley vs. Neil Peart. Timothy B. Schmidt vs. Geddy Lee. Joe Walsh vs. Alex Lifeson.

Henley is a decent drummer, Peart is one of the greatest of all time. Schmidt can't even begin to approach the level of talent that Geddy Lee provides as a bass player, much less all the other instruments he plays. All at the same time while singing on a lot of songs. Joe Walsh and Lifeson are a wash at best, I give the nod to Alex myself. All around, the members of Rush are much better musicians than those in the Eagles, no matter which era you choose from.
 
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PtLavacaSooner said:
Absolutely. Don Henley vs. Neil Peart. Timothy B. Schmidt vs. Geddy Lee. Joe Walsh vs. Alex Lifeson.

Henley is a decent drummer, Peart is one of the greatest of all time. Schmidt can even begin to approach the level of talent that Geddy Lee provides as a bass player, much less all the other instruments he plays. All at the same time while singing on a lot of songs. Joe Walsh and Lifeson are a wash at best, I give the nod to Alex myself. All around, the members of Rush are much better musicians than those in the Eagles, no matter which era you choose from.
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Peart is a hell of a drummer.
 
PtLavacaSooner said:
Absolutely. Don Henley vs. Neil Peart. Timothy B. Schmidt vs. Geddy Lee. Joe Walsh vs. Alex Lifeson.

Henley is a decent drummer, Peart is one of the greatest of all time. Schmidt can't even begin to approach the level of talent that Geddy Lee provides as a bass player, much less all the other instruments he plays. All at the same time while singing on a lot of songs. Joe Walsh and Lifeson are a wash at best, I give the nod to Alex myself. All around, the members of Rush are much better musicians than those in the Eagles, no matter which era you choose from.
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Cool. Music, it's all very subjective to personal tastes. I personally enjoy the Eagles moreso than Rush, but that's me. And that's not saying I don't enjoy listening to Rush.
 
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Cool. Music, it's all very subjective to personal tastes. I personally enjoy the Eagles moreso than Rush, but that's me. And that's not saying I don't enjoy listening to Rush.
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Oh, I love the Eagles, and the harmonizing they can do is beyond compare in a rock band outside of possibly Queen, and even that is debatable. I guess my perspective as a wannabe rock star drummer back in the day, there isn't an Eagles song that I couldn't sit down and play. I can count the Rush songs I could play on one hand, and technically probably one finger. Very intricate musically. I looked at the music sheets in the late 80's and counted 17 time changes for the drumline in a song that was only 4 to 5 minutes. How do you count 113/128 time after playing 57/64 time? That all going on while the bass is in 7/8 and guitar is 29/32 or some crap. :confused:
 
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Play some Allman Brothers at my wake. I'm sure to go to God then.

GSX , I post in jest.
 
PtLavacaSooner said:
Absolutely. Don Henley vs. Neil Peart. Timothy B. Schmidt vs. Geddy Lee. Joe Walsh vs. Alex Lifeson.

Henley is a decent drummer, Peart is one of the greatest of all time. Schmidt can't even begin to approach the level of talent that Geddy Lee provides as a bass player, much less all the other instruments he plays. All at the same time while singing on a lot of songs. Joe Walsh and Lifeson are a wash at best, I give the nod to Alex myself. All around, the members of Rush are much better musicians than those in the Eagles, no matter which era you choose from.
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What the Hell, are you a Cannuck or what? :eek:
 
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What the Hell, are you a Cannuck or what? :eek:
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Nope. Just played music all my life. As did my mother, who went to Juilliard for summer sessions and her sister who was a violinist in several symphony orchestras, and then a brother,violin, mandolin, guitar, piano, etc. All of them have/had perfect pitch. Hum a C and they can tell you if it is or isn't. As for me, I'm just a little off... but most of you posters here know that by now... :confused:
 
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Nope. Just played music all my life. As did my mother, who went to Juilliard for summer sessions and her sister who was a violinist in several symphony orchestras, and then a brother,violin, mandolin, guitar, piano, etc. All of them have/had perfect pitch. Hum a C and they can tell you if it is or isn't. As for me, I'm just a little off... but most of you posters here know that by now... :confused:
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You're in good company I'd say.:confused:
 
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Debating about who the best band is, is like debating what the best food is. It's different strokes for different folks. The artists mentioned above, including the Eagles, are all great, but they also have the benefit of having been given a break in the business and record contracts with good distribution.

Poor, poor Rush. They made millions bitching about recording industry commercialism, and it was commercialism that made them millions. They aren't stupid.

I listen to some great indy bands with great musicians and great song writing that you guys never heard of, and never will hear of. Not because they are lesser talented, but solely because they didn't get a foot in the door into the mainstream music industry. They are unknown except to a small number of fans, but they are off-the-charts in quality.

So when someone says that so-in-so is the greatest ever, it goes in one eye and out the other eye with me. That is a personal preference and an opinion.

One more thing. Many bands perform boo-hoo songs about how hard life is on the road. Bob Seger's "Turn the Page" is a classic example. There are dozens of those type of songs out there. I hate every one of them. Poor bastards complaining about life on the road while making millions get zero sympathy from me.
 
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Debating about who the best band is, is like debating what the best food is. It's different strokes for different folks. The artists mentioned above, including the Eagles, are all great, but they also have the benefit of having been given a break in the business and record contracts with good distribution.

Poor, poor Rush. They made millions bitching about recording industry commercialism, and it was commercialism that made them millions. They aren't stupid.

I listen to some great indy bands with great musicians and great song writing that you guys never heard of, and never will hear of. Not because they are lesser talented, but solely because they didn't get a foot in the door into the mainstream music industry. They are unknown except to a small number of fans, but they are off-the-charts in quality.

So when someone says that so-in-so is the greatest ever, it goes in one eye and out the other eye with me. That is a personal preference and an opinion.

One more thing. Many bands perform boo-hoo songs about how hard life is on the road. Bob Seger's "Turn the Page" is a classic example. There are dozens of those type of songs out there. I hate every one of them. Poor bastards complaining about life on the road while making millions get zero sympathy from me.
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Boohoo. Got many a friend that spent life on the road, doing clubs. Dallas pays them $5000. That's nice, but Jackson, Mississippi pays them $400. Norman, Oklahoma pays $600. They might get a few free beers and choice of a woman for the night. Riding around in a beat up POS van or retired moving truck to make about $15,000 a year might be fun, but it gets tiresome and boring.
 
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Boohoo. Got many a friend that spent life on the road, doing clubs. Dallas pays them $5000. That's nice, but Jackson, Mississippi pays them $400. Norman, Oklahoma pays $600. They might get a few free beers and choice of a woman for the night. Riding around in a beat up POS van or retired moving truck to make about $15,000 a year might be fun, but it gets tiresome and boring.
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You didn't read my post carefully. I specifically referred to the musicians who make millions.

I wasn't talking about your starving-artist friends, who are all probably more talented than the Rolling Stones could ever dream of being.
 
22LR said:
You didn't read my post carefully. I specifically referred to the musicians who make millions.

I wasn't talking about your starving-artist friends, who are all probably more talented than the Rolling Stones could ever dream of being.
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Some of them. Charlie Watts is a bad ass. What he makes sound so simple, really isn't. I got to see him behind a 12 piece set in the 80's at the British Invasion tour. He did things that you'd never see on a Stones tour.
 
22LR said:
You didn't read my post carefully. I specifically referred to the musicians who make millions.

I wasn't talking about your starving-artist friends, who are all probably more talented than the Rolling Stones could ever dream of being.
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In the 60's and 70's, there were no Indy labels so to speak. Bands that sold millions of records and played sold out shows in stadiums to 50,000+ fans a night would get done with a tour and go home to their mobile home or RV and get foreclosure notices. Record companies and management made the millions, while the talent behind it was broke. Columbia Broadcasting System was notorious for stealing millions, if not billions, from those responsible for all those catchy lines and riffs. They even sued John Fogarty for plagiarism against himself, because he sounded like him!!!

There were no in home studios, unless you had millions yourself. Nobody had a computer with a mixing board built into it. CD's were certificates of deposit, not compact discs. The idea that some jackass sitting behind a desk making millions while 4 or 5 guys go out and play their songs every night to thousands and remain broke is what was wrong with the system.

Today, anyone can burn a CD on their PC that they can download free mixing boards and processors, etc. I can't go to a local record store anymore, they don't exist. I can go online and Google all kinds of music and listen for free. In that respect, the Indy scene has brought the music industry back to reality, in a way, while also making the earnings of those responsible for what we listen to shrink back down to normal wages in some regards. That wasn't the way it was when the Eagles, Rush, and Bob Seger cut their teeth. "Turn The Page"was written and recorded by a broke musician, not a millionaire. It turned him into one, because people liked it and bought it. Had they not, he'd still be broke.
 
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Wow, this some major league bullshit right here. You probably also think Bob Seger wasn't popular until Silver Bullet Live was released. Bob Seger was making big $$$ ten years prior. Broke musician my ass.
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Maybe you should fact check it then, smart guy. Bob Seger and his band signed in 69 with Capitol Records for $15,000. They were dropped after two albums. Money? Hardly. In 1972 he was broke, touring with a couple of Okies, Teegarden & Van Winkle, when he wrote "Turn the Page." It was released in 73 and did nothing. What does Bob Steger say? "After touring out of station wagons, we recorded our first live album and we went to jets. There never were any tour buses." Yep, all those big $$$ you talk about bought him broken down station wagons, because that's how they really loved to travel, right? That live album was recorded in September of 1975 and released in 76. Before those two shows in Detroit, the station wagons had taken them to play 265 shows in the prior year. It took him 15 years to break into mainstream radio for good, having had a small taste in 69 before getting shit canned. Interstingly, it was Capitol Records that he resigned with for his breakout. Those are the facts.
 
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