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First half observations

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1) Riley's play calling sucked in the mid to late second quarter

2) Motley needs to be benched

3) When do you learn not to kick to Turpin?

4) You have to make interceptions. Drop is the difference between going up 35-7 versus 28-14

5) This officiating crew sucks
 
1) Riley's play calling sucked in the mid to late second quarter

2) Motley needs to be benched

3) When do you learn not to kick to Turpin?

4) You have to make interceptions. Drop is the difference between going up 35-7 versus 28-14

5) This officiating crew sucks
Got almost identical Half-Time Re-Cap from my eldest son, who is at the game, and speaks Football, fluently...:rolleyes:
 
Our defense seems to have no heart or passion at most times. They start out great but they cave at the 1st sign of adversity. Looks like too many players on the D "take off" too many plays. Get a lead, go soft.
 
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Our defense seems to have no heart or passion at most times. They start out great but they cave at the 1st sign of adversity. Looks like too many players on the D "take off" too many plays. Get a lead, go soft.

Our tackling has been much better today and, IMO, the kids have been in much better position today...

Hopefully it is something they can build on
 
Our tackling has been much better today and, IMO, the kids have been in much better position today...

Hopefully it is something they can build on
I hear ya.

TCU, though, has been terrible offensively this year. I'm trying to look for bright spots with the D but we seem so soft up front. Never have we seen such inept DL play. If they're solid, our back 7 is solid. If we don't get pressure from them, our back 7 looks inept. Strange when you consider the number of 4 and 5 star players on the D.
 
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1) Riley's play calling sucked in the mid to late second quarter

2) Motley needs to be benched

3) When do you learn not to kick to Turpin?

4) You have to make interceptions. Drop is the difference between going up 35-7 versus 28-14

5) This officiating crew sucks
Think Coaches made a Butt Sandwich out of Motley @ Half-Time, Patriot? Or did he read your Post? Regardless, he corrected, NOTICEABLY! :p
 
I hear ya.

TCU, though, has been terrible offensively this year. I'm trying to look for bright spots with the D but we seem so soft up front. Never have we seen such inept DL play. If they're solid, our back 7 is solid. If we don't get pressure from them, our back 7 looks inept. Strange when you consider the number of 4 and 5 star players on the D.
 
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I hear ya.

TCU, though, has been terrible offensively this year. I'm trying to look for bright spots with the D but we seem so soft up front. Never have we seen such inept DL play. If they're solid, our back 7 is solid. If we don't get pressure from them, our back 7 looks inept. Strange when you consider the number of 4 and 5 star players on the D.

How did TCU have so many yards against Ohio State?

I didn't see the game but if I remember they had over 500 yards. Truly a head scratcher...
 
I don't recall a single blitz by the OU defense the entire game, which I hated. I sure hope this new DC isn't scared to bring the heat and play way too safe. I did notice the players were in position much better and tackled very well. The DBs still need to learn ball skills, both catching and fighting with the WR in the air to stop passes.

Offensively, way too many mistakes and Riley called a terrible game, just terrible. However, the goat of the game was clearly special teams, put the D in bad situations all game.

This game was much closer than it should have been. The final score should have been more like 65-14.
 
First half was not good. Too many penalties on Offense. Murray's poise was commendable. TCU could not stop us. We stopped ourselves and gave them unwarranted opportunities. The half time adjustments tells us much about the attitude in the locker room. Players were listening. TCU scored 3 points in the second half. I'm still not convinced that our D will stand up against TTech or WVU. Our O line is again, one of the best in the country. Brooks ran through holes that anyone could have picked up 15 yards. I hope someone jacked up Lamb & Brown's asses over the showboat penalty. Do they still run bleachers these days for screwing up?
 
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First half was not good. Too many penalties on Offense. Murray's poise was commendable. TCU could not stop us. We stopped ourselves and gave them unwarranted opportunities. The half time adjustments tells us much about the attitude in the locker room. Players were listening. TCU scored 3 points in the second half. I'm still not convinced that our D will stand up against TTech or WVU. Our O line is again, one of the best in the country. Brooks ran through holes that anyone could have picked up 15 yards. I hope someone jacked up Lamb & Brown's asses over the showboat penalty. Do they still run bleachers these days for screwing up?

Riley was not upset with the players about the penalty after the game. He said they have done it all year and not one crew has said anything to them about it.

He chalked it up to this crew...
 
No wonder no one posts here any more as there are nothing here except the 1.0 percenters who just like to bitch.

The OU offense scored 52 points. The defense limited the TCU offense to 275 yards total.

Yet, here there is nothing but bitching. Was everything so bad that none here seen any positives?

The defense gave up scores when the hornfrog offense got great field position. I thought the defense tackled a lot better yesterday than in the recent past. Was it perfect? No. Was it as bad as most of you try to paint it.

This board has become a waste land and this thread is a great example of the reason. I think half of the posters here are trolls and nothing more.
 
No wonder no one posts here any more as there are nothing here except the 1.0 percenters who just like to bitch.

The OU offense scored 52 points. The defense limited the TCU offense to 275 yards total.

Yet, here there is nothing but bitching. Was everything so bad that none here seen any positives?

The defense gave up scores when the hornfrog offense got great field position. I thought the defense tackled a lot better yesterday than in the recent past. Was it perfect? No. Was it as bad as most of you try to paint it.

This board has become a waste land and this thread is a great example of the reason. I think half of the posters here are trolls and nothing more.
Agree completely. Lincoln Riley is considered by many college football analysts to be one the best offensive minds in football. Yet we have the arm chair coaching idiots who come on here and complain about his play calling. Yea terrible, really terrible, as one couch coach pointed out. Please enlighten this fan as to exactly what plays or sequence of plays were terrible and what you would have called in that situation. Also all you defensive wizzards please tell me all the schemes and blitz packages that we should have used but did not.
 
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Until we play truly solid opponents, the jury is still out. Our strength of schedule is weak. We should be strongly in command of a playoff bid, but at this point, we need to win out and for teams ahead of us to have their bad game(s). Plenty of time for things to change...and that always seems to happen in November.
 
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No wonder no one posts here any more as there are nothing here except the 1.0 percenters who just like to bitch.

The OU offense scored 52 points. The defense limited the TCU offense to 275 yards total.

Yet, here there is nothing but bitching. Was everything so bad that none here seen any positives?

The defense gave up scores when the hornfrog offense got great field position. I thought the defense tackled a lot better yesterday than in the recent past. Was it perfect? No. Was it as bad as most of you try to paint it.

This board has become a waste land and this thread is a great example of the reason. I think half of the posters here are trolls and nothing more.
You seem to have disdain for varying opinions here. There are other boards you know that hopefully can soothe your soul.

It's good to know we have you to castigate those perceived "trolls". People express their passion for OUr Sooners in different ways. Kinda like the glass half full/empty crowd that post here. Sorry that you get so much heartburn from another's civil expressions.

This board is pretty civil right now.

Boomer
 
Agree completely. Lincoln Riley is considered by many college football analysts to be one the best offensive minds in football. Yet we have the arm chair coaching idiots who come on here and complain about his play calling. Yea terrible, really terrible, as one couch coach pointed out. Please enlighten this fan as to exactly what plays or sequence of plays were terrible and what you would have called in that situation. Also all you defensive wizzards please tell me all the schemes and blitz packages that we should have used but did not.
Riley is solid and we're blessed to have him but he has much still to learn, IMHO. Against Georgia, he knew our defense was terrible and he went vanilla in the 2nd half abandoning what worked so well in the 1st half, IMHO. He gave momentum away and Georgia took advantage of his inexperience. As for dropping the hammer on opponents for 4 quarters ala Art Briles, he is learning but is not quite there yet, IMHO.
 
I thought the OU D played well in the 1Q. They got put into three short field situations by the offense in the 2Q, which permitted TCU to get back into the game right before half.

I have to assume some adjustments were made by McNeil as the D returned to their 1Q form and allowed only 3 points the rest of the way. Not sure about yardage, but TCU could not have had more the 150 yards of total offense after halftime.

I get that this is a struggling TCU team, but it was a good test for OU's D, especially coming off a bye week. Hopefully our guys will improve on the gains they made this week against TCU as they get ready to take on a KSU team that loves to play smash mouth football. I think KSU will provide a challenge to the toughness of the OU D, which has been maligned by a few of the talking heads on ESPN and sports radio since the loss to texas.
 
No wonder no one posts here any more as there are nothing here except the 1.0 percenters who just like to bitch.

The OU offense scored 52 points. The defense limited the TCU offense to 275 yards total.

Yet, here there is nothing but bitching. Was everything so bad that none here seen any positives?

The defense gave up scores when the hornfrog offense got great field position. I thought the defense tackled a lot better yesterday than in the recent past. Was it perfect? No. Was it as bad as most of you try to paint it.

This board has become a waste land and this thread is a great example of the reason. I think half of the posters here are trolls and nothing more.

I think for the most part people have left here because of the attacks when someone has an opinion and others don't like that opinion. Calling people trolls, 1.0 percenters, hitler and bitches all because they express an opinion is pretty much bitching about their opinion. Its this way all over social media these days, if you express an opinion you get blasted for it and called names. I think the differing of opinions here is what has always made this a great board with a lot of great posters. If we all thought the same way about OU Football on every topic this board would dry up fast.
People should be allowed to post their opinions be it pro or negative. Don't like the topic? Don't read it.
Sorry but I hate when people try and control what others think or say.
 
I hear ya.

TCU, though, has been terrible offensively this year. I'm trying to look for bright spots with the D but we seem so soft up front. Never have we seen such inept DL play. If they're solid, our back 7 is solid. If we don't get pressure from them, our back 7 looks inept. Strange when you consider the number of 4 and 5 star players on the D.

They aren’t that terrible as far as yards... they stilll got around 400 against tech. We held them to their lowest yards all season.
 
They aren’t that terrible as far as yards... they stilll got around 400 against tech. We held them to their lowest yards all season.
You're right.

But, we played perhaps the worst offense thus far in TCU. Robinson was already damaged goods coming into the game and did not perform well. His backup was starting to get into a huge rhythm (putting 17 points on us in quick fashion in the 2nd quarter) when he came up lame in the 2nd half with the hand injury. It was at that moment when the wheels came off their offensive wagon. IMHO, the D performed slightly below average against an offense that was stone cold limited.

Thank goodness we have a balls-to-the-wall offense.
 
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The D needs to somewhat be given the benefit of the doubt for the 2nd quarter meltdown for not having game planned for a new QB, although I do wonder if the bloody divet in his throwing hand limited his effectiveness in the 2nd half. And the "melt down" was essentially two big plays - a bubble screen with Turpin's "Hollywood-like" speed after escaping the well-blocked bubble, and Motley was right on his WR until the WR created some separation at the very end (someone in my Chi-town alumni bar commented "Motley is Sanchez, without the interceptions"...ouch; but then Motley comes down with a easy pick).

Offensively you can only really nitpick, with Riley content to "play smart." My druthers is that Riley doesn't have a D that allows him to play smart on the O side of the ball all the time (not against better competition, so let's get in that groove). So when we are 3rd and long on our 20 or so, I would like a pass instead of conceding the series with a run up the gut (it wasn't even a draw); likewise, when we are 3rd and long again but near the redzone I'd prefer a shot in the endzone or at least a pass play...not another run up the gut to set up for a FG. We need a foot-on-the-throat offense for 4 quarters if we are going to make a run at the playoffs. The D, again, does not allow smart on the O side - it has to play aggressively, the higher risk percentages be damned.
 
The D needs to somewhat be given the benefit of the doubt for the 2nd quarter meltdown for not having game planned for a new QB, although I do wonder if the bloody divet in his throwing hand limited his effectiveness in the 2nd half. And the "melt down" was essentially two big plays - a bubble screen with Turpin's "Hollywood-like" speed after escaping the well-blocked bubble, and Motley was right on his WR until the WR created some separation at the very end (someone in my Chi-town alumni bar commented "Motley is Sanchez, without the interceptions"...ouch; but then Motley comes down with a easy pick).

Offensively you can only really nitpick, with Riley content to "play smart." My druthers is that Riley doesn't have a D that allows him to play smart on the O side of the ball all the time (not against better competition, so let's get in that groove). So when we are 3rd and long on our 20 or so, I would like a pass instead of conceding the series with a run up the gut (it wasn't even a draw); likewise, when we are 3rd and long again but near the redzone I'd prefer a shot in the endzone or at least a pass play...not another run up the gut to set up for a FG. We need a foot-on-the-throat offense for 4 quarters if we are going to make a run at the playoffs. The D, again, does not allow smart on the O side - it has to play aggressively, the higher risk percentages be damned.
You would prefer a shot in the end zone. Good call coach Phaeded. What I would prefer is that idiots whose knowledge of football could be written on the penis of a flea not question the calls of Lincoln Riley.
 
You would prefer a shot in the end zone. Good call coach Phaeded. What I would prefer is that idiots whose knowledge of football could be written on the penis of a flea not question the calls of Lincoln Riley.
Well OK, McHomer.
 
Well OK, McHomer.
Not a homer. I have been retired for several years but I have actually coached high school football. What and who are you? Why not contact Coach Riley and tell him “what you would prefer”. Comedian Ron White surely had you in mind when he said, “You can’t fix stupid “.
 
You would prefer a shot in the end zone. Good call coach Phaeded. What I would prefer is that idiots whose knowledge of football could be written on the penis of a flea not question the calls of Lincoln Riley.
Being obtuse without substance appears to be your style. Good luck with that juvenile approach coach.
 
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Riley was not upset with the players about the penalty after the game. He said they have done it all year and not one crew has said anything to them about it.

He chalked it up to this crew...
Well if the refs did not tell the coaches before the game that a celebration handshake would result in an unsportsmanlike penalty for two players and a 15 yard penalty the refs should be fined...that handshake is common practice
 
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Here's my take for what it's worth. If Bookie makes that pick in the 2nd quarter and scores like I believe he would have that would have made the game 35-7 I believe. Game over at that point. Instead we got hit by a screen that went for over 40 yards for a TD. Throw in the bomb late in the 2nd quarter and that made the score a lot closer than the game actually was at that point. At no time during the game did I believe that TCU was going to beat us. All three of their TD's in the first half were big plays. Limit those big plays and it's a total beat down.
 
I agree runningback43. My problem is how long have we fans here (as well as the media types) been saying about the D "limit those big plays and it's a total beat down"? Too long. We've had way too many D blowups. Some day that will change when we get some true big uglies on the DL and we coach them up. .
 
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That's fair.

I can be as obtuse as anyone. My wife tells me she loves me but I can annoy the tar out of her at times so I know that I can annoy others here too. Sometimes, I annoy myself.
That was NOT aimed @ U, fw...Your Rebel Rousing Counterpart seems to have a VERY Limited Positive Vocab...
 
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I agree runningback43. My problem is how long have we fans here (as well as the media types) been saying about the D "limit those big plays and it's a total beat down"? Too long. We've had way too many D blowups. Some day that will change when we get some true big uglies on the DL and we coach them up. .

You are correct. I've been saying for quite some time that we need better defensive linemen. Our defensive linemen either can't get off blocks or they are taught to just stay engaged with the offensive linemen. Not sure which one is correct, but I hate it.
 
No wonder no one posts here any more as there are nothing here except the 1.0 percenters who just like to bitch.

The OU offense scored 52 points. The defense limited the TCU offense to 275 yards total.

Yet, here there is nothing but bitching. Was everything so bad that none here seen any positives?

The defense gave up scores when the hornfrog offense got great field position. I thought the defense tackled a lot better yesterday than in the recent past. Was it perfect? No. Was it as bad as most of you try to paint it.

This board has become a waste land and this thread is a great example of the reason. I think half of the posters here are trolls and nothing more.

Did you notice the topic of the post? "First half observations..." Remember the score at half? 28-24

There were some great things in the first half that got us to 28-7 then ugliness that has plagued us all season creeped back into the picture.

Get over yourself. Who do you think you are to dictate who should post and what they should post?
 
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