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Who hasn't won a football natty in 21 years and with no playoff wins. Yeah, I'm feeling kinda salty right now.
Get it on brother, get salty! I'm right there with ya my man. Bob kept us consistent and on top of the big12 his whole tenure. 1 of 4 title games ain't too shabby imo. I don't wish ill will on dickhead tbow he will flame out. JC made a bad call obviously with Tbow, but I believe he corrected his mistake with the hiring of Brent Venebles. I'm on the fence now with giving shit about about cfb now that the portal/nil is in effect 😁
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And a Softball, Gymnastics school.
I thought I heard that we had 25 turnovers today vs Auburn. We got within 3 points in the second half and made four trips down the court without taking a shot. Kicked the ball, bad pass, etc. It is frustrating to watch these guys play.
OU's basketball program is in a rebuilding mode, so the only thing I feel is realistic is to see improvement and building to the future.
Right now, I'm too interested in what's going on with Venables and his body of work to care that much about basketball.
Right now, I'm too interested in what's going on with Venables and his body of work to care that much about basketball.
Rebuilding mode has nothing to do with basic fundamental basketball that should have been learned years ago. These guys looked like Keystone Cops on the court. Porter needs to go back to grade school passing and dribbling drills to rinse poor ball skills out of OU's game.
Not defending Porter necessarily, but the talent on the roster he inherited for the most part.
Plus OU is in a very good Big 12 Conference with no team having a losing record and only two are at .500.
It should be what the future holds as far as OU basketball is concerned. This team, because of less-than-stellar talent, is in transition and in need of better....and more fundamentally sound....players.
Plus OU is in a very good Big 12 Conference with no team having a losing record and only two are at .500.
It should be what the future holds as far as OU basketball is concerned. This team, because of less-than-stellar talent, is in transition and in need of better....and more fundamentally sound....players.
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I do not agree with your assessment of the talent level on this team. Goldwire was on scholly at DUKE! He was heavily recruited to Duke without basic basketball skills? He entered the portal and came to OU. How did the Groves brothers make it to OU with poor basketball skills? Who evaluated our talent and determined we would be ok with a team with lesser skills? OU needs to be drilled in the basics.
I don't disagree with you on this team's issues.
But I will keep believing this team is not one for the present....for the reasons you mentioned....but for the future.
And it isn't as if Auburn is an average team with its 20-1 record and ranked one or two in the polls.
But I will keep believing this team is not one for the present....for the reasons you mentioned....but for the future.
And it isn't as if Auburn is an average team with its 20-1 record and ranked one or two in the polls.
You are missing my point. Playing Auburn, who happens to be #1 at the time, has nothing to do with the issues i've pointed out. If OU would have played a decent game, 10 or so turnovers, then Auburn could win by 30 points and your points would be valid. There is no need for this team to self destruct on execution of basic basketball fundamentals.
Fair enough.
I'm looking at a team that realistically has little to play for this season given the talent level and the strength of the conference overall. OU is not very good this year, plain and simple, for several reasons.
Again, I see your points. I am just looking at the bigger, long range picture ahead.....which for me, makes the loss to Kansas in 1988 even tougher to accept. I think that loss was and still is OU basketball's high water mark, by a team that had Mount Rushmore talent and was clearly the best team in the country.
Credit to OhioBornSoonerBred on OUHoops for doing the homework on this. Former Sooners currently:
Alondes Williams: 20.4 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.1 APG, 54.5% FG (Wake Forest leading scorer)
Kam McGusty: 17.9 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 2.4 APG, 48.8% FG (Miami FL leading scorer)
Jordan Shepherd: 14.4 PPG (Cal leading scorer)
Brady Manek: 12.8 PPG, 5.8 RPG (North Carolina)
De'Vion Harmon: 10.6 PPG (Oregon)
Jamal Bieniemy: 14.7 PPG (UTEP)
Trey Phipps: 9.8 PPG, 46.1% 3PT (Oral Roberts)
Kur Kuath: 5.4 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 3.1 blocks per game - 14th nationally (Marquette)
Victor Iwuakor: 1.6 PPG (UNLV)
Josh O'Garro: 3.3 PPG (San Jose State)
Corbin Merritt: 3.6 PPG (Austin Peay)
Anyang Garang: UMBC - has not played
All that adds up to 114.5 points per game (including 6 being power conference players accounting for 81.5 points per game).
Alondes Williams: 20.4 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 5.1 APG, 54.5% FG (Wake Forest leading scorer)
Kam McGusty: 17.9 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 2.4 APG, 48.8% FG (Miami FL leading scorer)
Jordan Shepherd: 14.4 PPG (Cal leading scorer)
Brady Manek: 12.8 PPG, 5.8 RPG (North Carolina)
De'Vion Harmon: 10.6 PPG (Oregon)
Jamal Bieniemy: 14.7 PPG (UTEP)
Trey Phipps: 9.8 PPG, 46.1% 3PT (Oral Roberts)
Kur Kuath: 5.4 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 3.1 blocks per game - 14th nationally (Marquette)
Victor Iwuakor: 1.6 PPG (UNLV)
Josh O'Garro: 3.3 PPG (San Jose State)
Corbin Merritt: 3.6 PPG (Austin Peay)
Anyang Garang: UMBC - has not played
All that adds up to 114.5 points per game (including 6 being power conference players accounting for 81.5 points per game).
OU basketball would look a lot different and better hopefully with this talent on the team
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