Did he play tonight? I don't think he played much against Texas either. Dude is just too small and too slow for this level of play
I dont know....hard to see how so many experts considered him a 5 star player. I'm not seeing it
Guys, he was a corner in HS. OU played him at safety.... that's a whole other animal.
I understand that, but I honestly can't see him playing corner at OU. He is slow and short. He will hit you but those are few and far between. His tackling was also terrible
Not saying he can. Just saying that it's a big adjustment to move from corner to safety.
I also remember a guy named Strait who wasn't real big and wasn't real fast.
I would never compare Bookie to Strait. Strait was a stud as a freshman. He was not huge but he was definitely bigger than Bookie and could actually tackle someone. Being at safety should have nothing to do with your ability to tackle someone
I'm waiting until next season to judge Hiles. Not all highly rated freshmen hit the ground running their freshman year.
A competent DC and a competent DB coach should help Bookie.
The comparison is that Strait was a corner. And he didn't have blazing speed. And he didn't have a lot of height.
And it took me about a minute and a half to discover that Bookie's size now, and Derrick's size in the NFL are almost identical.
Strait came in as a freshman and played his natural position.. and did it as well as anyone we've had. Bookie was put at safety by Mike Stoops rather than play his natural position. The differences in those positions is HUGE.
I'm not saying Hiles will ever be a Derrick Strait, I'm just rebutting your argument that he is too "slow and short" to play corner.
Strait was 6 ft. Hiles is 5'9 at best.
I just don't see Hiles playing safety, no way. He might be able to play corner but damn he is small.
I saw a tweet earlier that he was feeling a bit frustrated with the fan criticism (some pretty harsh) He is just a freshman, so I say give him time to develop and show what he can do.
I understand that, but I honestly can't see him playing corner at OU. He is slow and short. He will hit you but those are few and far between. His tackling was also terrible
Veritas 59 is either really REALLY sensitive or has some anger issues lol.
Best post hereHe is just a freshman in college...give the kid a chance....
A new DC and a new DB coach and these 5 and 4 stars may look like 5 and 4 stars....
Finally....a voice of reason.He is just a freshman in college...give the kid a chance....
A new DC and a new DB coach and these 5 and 4 stars may look like 5 and 4 stars....
NFL corners are short. That's just an excuse. They are short and play freaking hard. The receiver still has to come down with the ball, so no matter the size, they gotta get through you.
Says the dude that only comes on this site to fight. You've never posted a single positive post EVER. You're a crappy case of herpes. You only rear your ugly ass to hate on OU or our best posters.
He ought to feel frustrated. He is a 5-Star recruit and did nothing this year. Hell yea, should be frustrated just like the rest of the defense.
Hold off on burying Bookie's career at OU. He's one of the guys who looks like he was completely mis-used by MS and needs to be repositioned and coached up. A new position coach and new DC may very well turn things around for him.
I would agree if the tackling was poor for him only. But when all 11 guys are doing the same thing (for 2+ years now) and there were no changes made all year, that screams coaching. When all the guys have the same technique, that has to be what they are being told to do. Can you really pin that on any one player?Being at the wrong position really doesn't have anything to do with tackling.